Modern Arnis Lineage List or chart

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  1. Bob

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    Cut and Pasted from the WMAC forum
     
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  3. Bob

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  4. arnisador

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    Thanks, it's interesting to have this information.
     
  5. Bob

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    Arnisador
    Thanks for the support.
    Info taken from the WMAC Forum
     
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  9. Bob

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    Info taken from the WMAC forum
    I encourage everyone to share info. Martial talk has a large following of Modern Arnis people, so don't be shy. Either send a private email to Datu Worden or post on either Martial talk, or WMAC forum. This is an important project, so speak out or for ever hold your peace......
    Thanks in advance for any help you may give to this project....
    Bob
     
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    Bob,
    I'll give the Buffalo, NY list the best I can.

    Jerome Barber 3rd
    Kevin Black 3rd
    Dan Carr ???
    Bob Chesbro 3rd
    Tim Hartman 6th
    Jeff Rech 3rd
    Don Zanghi ???


    In Buffalo we produced 33 Black Belts that had tested in front of Remy himself. The list above are the 3rd degrees and higher. If you need any help let me know. I worked on a simular project in the past.

    Respectfully yours,
    Tim Hartman
     
  11. Bob

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    Thanks

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  12. Bob

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    1st quote Taken from the Escrima digest

    This is only part of the story. Please do your own research to find out the missing pieces. (Disclaimer: this post is not intended to start a flame war or a political battle. The argument between Datu Worden and Mr. Jay De Long was long before the "Lineage request" came up....)
    This quote taken from the WMAC forum....
     
  13. Bob

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    Personal email posted on the WMAC forum
    I am posting this info for the Modern Arnis people that do not cross over to the WMAC forum. This is not an attempt to gain more readers. This is just an attempt at sharing information that seems to be important to all Modern Arnis players. If you have information that would assist Datu Worden please email him personally or post it here on Martial Talk. com or http://uechi-ryu-temp.ath.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8888

    Take care
    Bob
     
  14. Bob Hubbard

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    Hi Bob.
    No worries. Its a great project and I'm sure I'm not alone in saying we can't wait to see the complete lineage.
     
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    Connecticut Area Modern Arnis Blackbelts

    Lee Lowery 6th
    Brian Zawilinski 5th
    Tony Silverio 4th
    Wayne Tanguay 2nd
    Brett Salafia 2nd
    Paul Kisckum 1st
    Bill Boisvert 1st
    LeeAnne Brophy 1st
    Lizz D'Atri (Bradstreet) 1st
    Jan Sternberg (Deceased) 1st
     
  16. Datu Tim Hartman

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    Not that I think most of the people are doing this , but I assume that this black belt list that Datu Worden is putting together is for promotion done by Remy and not by the organizations since his retirement. When I did this back in the 90's I had the black belts send a copy of their diplomas to prevent any problems.
     
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    People elevating their rank? In the martial arts world? No! It could never happen!

    OK, seriously....
    Delaware Modern Arnis (ie my people in the Delaware area)
    Myself: Lakan Isa
    Bruce Benson: Lakan
    Lexy Malone: Dayang (inactive)
    Cory Wickersham : recieved Lakan from Professor prior to training with me

    The question comes up from time time so I will touch on it real briefly. I am not, and was not ever, involved with Jim and/or Judy Clapp beyond attending one "big three" seminar at their school so I can't comment on them, nor can I give the rankings of their people.
    Jim recieved a 5th from Professor; Judy either a 4th or a 5th.
    Chad
     
  18. DoctorB

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    Below is a post that I submitted to the WMAC forum earlier today
    and I believe that it fits loosely into this and at least one other thread on this forum.

    JB

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    Very Nice Job, Kelly. This is quite a task to bring about to a positive conclusion and I love seeing so many names that i recognize from my
    past years in Modern Arnis - my time started in 1981, in Buffalo, NY.

    All of these names just make me feel that there is certinly a need for for the 2003 Modern Arnis Symposium, that I am hosting in July in Buffalo. We will not have enough time and openings for everyone to take an instructional opportunity, but given just the names above, plus those that have come in since the post that I am quoted, just boggles my mind.

    There are just so many people who could add so much information and background on this art. My contention from the first day that I proposed the Symposium idea was that the art is much bigger than most people realize. There are far more "senior" people within Modern Arnis than most people are aware of over the long haul of time.

    I was quite fortunate to have studied with one of the first IMAF Area Representatives, Sifu Don Zanghi begining in 1981. He had contact with a number of the first major people to get invilved with Modern Arnis in the mid to late 70's. That allowed me and my fellow students under Zanghi to meet, train and talk some of those same people, like Bowden Sween, Barbra Bones, Jeansa Krause, Shishiir Inocalla, Joe Bridenstein, Tom Bolden, Steve Drake, Jay Spiro, Dan Anderson, Fred King and Dennis Toelston.

    I did not personally meet all of these folks, but between Sifu Zanghi and my classmates, we met them all. Anyone who is opposed to the 2003 Symposium is really turning his/her back on the roots of Modern Arnis history. I certinly hope that this project goes forward and I also hope that some people will now, better undertand why I am going to be hosting the 2003 Symposium.

    Sincerely,

    Jerome Barber, Ed.D.
     
  19. Datu Tim Hartman

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    Tim Hartman 6th Degree produced the following students.


    1. Kevin Black................3rd Black......Lakan Tatlo
    2. Jeff Rech....................3rd Black......Lakan Tatlo
    3. Jeffery Leader............2nd Black.....Lakan Dalawa
    4. Ron Murcin.................2nd Black.....Lakan Dalawa
    5. Mike Alfano.................1st Black.....Lakan Isa
    6. Mike Antecki................1st Black.....Lakan Isa
    7. A. Paul Dawdy............1st Black......Lakan Isa (Canada)
    8. John CS Lehmann.......1st Black......Lakan Isa
    9. Paul O’Grady...............1st Black......Lakan Isa
    10.Amy Antecki................Black...........Dayang
    11.David Battaglia...........Black...........Lakan (belt revoked by GM Presas)
    12.Gene Cunningham......Black...........Lakan
    13.George Harris.............Black...........Lakan
    14.Primo Luciano.............Black...........Lakan
    15.Mark Mosler................Black...........Lakan
    16.Mike Milazzo...............Black...........Lakan
    17.David Pajak................Black...........Lakan
    18.Mike Rogers................Black...........Lakan
    19.Tim Unger...................Black...........Lakan
    20.Jordan Yee.................Black...........Lakan

    This is a list of my students that were promoted by GM Remy Presas and were issued VALID IMAF certificates. I am missing one listing which I'll put up when I can find him in my records.
     
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    John Bryant, who recvd his black belt in the early 80s (I believe) but who has been inactive for some time, to the best of my knowledge. He opened the first Buffalo-area school; indeed, one of the first Modern Arnis schools.
     

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