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Gerry Seymour

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Look guys . I'm not going to debate this. Terms like Indian burn are the same as saying you were gypped or that you jewed someone down in a negotiation, or that someone who does something dumb rode the short bus or is a tard.

If you disagree with me, fine. It's okay . I'll judge you though. :)
There’s nothing inherently negative (or positive) about giving someone a skin burn. Most likely, the term (both of them) came from someone claiming it’s something a specific group would/might do in a fight or something. It’s an almost certainly incorrect attribution, but I don’t see any racism.
 

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I have a problem with the P in that stuff. Pale is okay for wine, but beer???

There's nothing nice about P in beer...

I do like a good IPA, though I prefer our local, Washington hops to the British ones. :D

Historically, if it's made with hops it's IPL at best, not IPA.

But apparently, that may have changed...
 

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There’s nothing inherently negative (or positive) about giving someone a skin burn. Most likely, the term (both of them) came from someone claiming it’s something a specific group would/might do in a fight or something. It’s an almost certainly incorrect attribution, but I don’t see any racism.
Everything I've seen/heard ever refers to the color it turns your skin. This is literally the first time I've heard otherwise .
 

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There's nothing nice about P in beer...



Historically, if it's made with hops it's IPL at best, not IPA.

But apparently, that may have changed...
Lager vs ale is not about hops, rather it's about the fermentation. Longer at lower temps is a lager.
 

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Lager vs ale is not about hops, rather it's about the fermentation. Longer at lower temps is a lager.

In the olden days, ale pretty much meant hopeless beer.

Well, it did in English at least :p
 

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I've honestly never heard of a hopless beer.

It's possible they predate america, and have become so 'specialist' as to have no fame nowadays.

There's usually a good handful of gruits at most beerfests around here...
 

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It's possible they predate america, and have become so 'specialist' as to have no fame nowadays.

There's usually a good handful of gruits at most beerfests around here...
I'm game to try it . I'll keep my eyes out .
 

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Not everything is racist but some things aee.

As a side note. I am fine with a bit of racism so long as it isn't malicious.

I find I am more racist towards people I trust.

Which means the less racist I am being the more I am factoring in their race.
 

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Look guys . I'm not going to debate this. Terms like Indian burn are the same as saying you were gypped or that you jewed someone down in a negotiation, or that someone who does something dumb rode the short bus or is a tard.

If you disagree with me, fine. It's okay . I'll judge you though. :)
Since none of you seem to get the issues here (Steve excluded)

Indian burn: self explanatory

Gypped: Assuming that someone who takes advantage is a gypsy

Jewed someone: fairly certain this comes from nazis, that a jew takes advantage of others money-wise

shortbus/tard: making fun of someone for having below average intelligence.

In my profession, I have seen people be upset by all 4/5 of those, and in some cases exacerbating the issues. It's the same as using the N-word or the C-word, but because they're not for 'minority' groups, it's considered okay.

The two big ones that people have directed towards me are 'fake paddy', and either 'spic' or 'spicorican'. Those offend me for different reasons (I am Irish/cuban), and as far as people are concerned I don't fit in with either group. There really is no reason to use a term that offends people, and the idea that it is the fault of the offended is ridiculous.

That would be like me saying someone being punched in the face being upset by that is being a baby. I'm okay with it, and most likely if I met one of you and you punched me in the face, I wouldn't care all that much (it happens often enough in sparring). But if you punched a random person in the face (In NY at least) you could get arrested for assault. Just because you're okay with something doesn't mean everyone else is, nor does it mean that they should be okay with it.
 

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As a side note. I am fine with a bit of racism so long as it isn't malicious.

I find I am more racist towards people I trust.

Which means the less racist I am being the more I am factoring in their race.
Most of us, if we admit it, are that way. It's why black comedians in the US can get away with saying things white comedians often cannot.

A friend of mine who was black (he still is black, we just lost touch) understood this well, and he and I often made "racist" comments at each other - usually backwards, making fun of the stereotypes. I had a couple of friends like that in high school. We'd pass each other in the hall, and they'd call me some nasty epithet usually reserved for blacks, and I'd return the favor with some nasty epithet usually reserved for whites.
 

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