Mir vs Lesner 2

[Obi Wan Shinobi]

I just don't see how someone new to the UFC like Lesnar gets to fight Champions like Mir, and Couture so early in his career. For most other MMA fighters you have to fight your way up to the champs. His time in the WWF has paid off now that he's decided to fight for real. I guess he's the UFC"s version of Kimbo Slice. I'm putting my money on Mir....

 

[Nolerama]

I just don't see how someone new to the UFC like Lesnar gets to fight Champions like Mir, and Couture so early in his career. For most other MMA fighters you have to fight your way up to the champs. His time in the WWF has paid off now that he's decided to fight for real. I guess he's the UFC"s version of Kimbo Slice. I'm putting my money on Mir....

Ratings, Pay-Per-View sales, controversy. That, coupled with a profit-driven organization equals Brock Lesnar playing the pro MMA game without earning it.

 

[sgtmac_46]

I just don't see how someone new to the UFC like Lesnar gets to fight Champions like Mir, and Couture so early in his career. For most other MMA fighters you have to fight your way up to the champs. His time in the WWF has paid off now that he's decided to fight for real. I guess he's the UFC"s version of Kimbo Slice. I'm putting my money on Mir....

While it's certainly arguable that Lesnar shouldn't have gotten a shot at a title with so few fights, comparing him to Kimbo is unfair.....it's not as if Lesnar has been getting by on hype, cans and has-beens......he fought Mir, beat Couture, the guy is a legitimate fighter, regardless of whether he's fought long enough to have been considered to have 'paid his dues'.

Honestly if someone can go on reality TV and fight other no-bodies for a season and get a title shot, why can't Lesnar just walk in the door fight a few fights and get a title shot?

 

[TheArtofDave]

Actually Brock Lesnar would be more like the UFC's version of former 8 time UFC Winner Dan "The Beast" Severn. At the time Dan was in the UFC he took a whole 5 days to learn the training involved. He caught on quick making UFC history, and he was an AWA wrestler. Back in the pre corporate days of wrestling.

Brock is like the "The Beast" except with tattoos. The only difference is he is not as polished as Severn was. The reason he got a title shot early is because the heavyweight division was really thin, and it was perfect timing for him to even it out. Also if you're not big, agile, and strong as an ox you shouldn't be in the heavyweight division, so you can't really dislike Brock for having those natural abilities.

Brocks downfall will be his inexperience against a Frank Mir whose looking like a solid, and fluid fighter as far his strikes, and submissions go.

Brock is a striker, and a good one. He punches like a sledgehammer. The first fight Brock just rushed the fight, and Mir caught him a little too easily. Mir is a submission specialist, he'll have to rely more on Brock taking him down, and then working from the guard to catch Brock again.

I am calling for Mir to be the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion in the 3rd round. I think Brock has improved a lot since the first fight, but I think he needs five or six more fights before he gets another shot at the belt.

This is of course after Mir wipes the floor with him whenever the title fight is announced.

 

[searcher]

Which rules are you referring to? The one's that make current mixed martial arts different to how they were in the early UFC's?

Cheers
Sam:asian:

I refer to groin shots, hair pull, use of gloves, and hitting the spine side.


And you are right, they were needed for MMA survival. It was more like a street fight back in the day.

 

[DavidCC]

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