Michael Jackson Dead at 50

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For that kind of money, I'd be laughing all the way to the bank (and not dying in debt). But it's still a fair point, and all the more so when you add on the childhood he had.

But he was a star and rich before he even had an idea what a buck was worth. He probably had the financial acumen of that 8 year old child from the Ed Sullivan show. Nothing teaches you how to handle money like not having it and well, he was never in that situation.
 

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-Yeah it is. Guess you could say that MTV plays TRL crap and some rap/ hip-hop videos but its not the same. Its like listening to a radio station that plays the 'greatest hits'. But thats all they play! Take 2 or 3 hit songs from a small selection of artists and play on repeat. I don't think I've regularly watched MTV in over 15 years.

-On another note, as I'm watching some of Michael's videos, besides the talent, he could also connect people all over the world, and I think if the media had backed off and all the crap hadn't happen, he could have been a bigger influence in bringing people together to work on world issues. The only person I can think of doing that now is U2's Bono. Seems like Michael really went to waste in many ways.

-I want my MTV. My old MTV.


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-Yeah it is. Guess you could say that MTV plays TRL crap and some rap/ hip-hop videos but its not the same. Its like listening to a radio station that plays the 'greatest hits'. But thats all they play! Take 2 or 3 hit songs from a small selection of artists and play on repeat. I don't think I've regularly watched MTV in over 15 years.

-On another note, as I'm watching some of Michael's videos, besides the talent, he could also connect people all over the world, and I think if the media had backed off and all the crap hadn't happen, he could have been a bigger influence in bringing people together to work on world issues. The only person I can think of doing that now is U2's Bono. Seems like Michael really went to waste in many ways.

-I want my MTV. My old MTV.



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Bono is a fake frankly and a pretentious one at that. He hasn't really done anything for the world other that be condescending.
However good Micheal Jackson could have been, governments wouldn't have listened, no more than they'd listen to any 'pop' star. It just makes politicians look good in the media when associating with them.
 

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-You know, I try to look at the bright side, then you have to bring reality back into the picture, haha! You're absolutely right. Stupid politicians.


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Bono is a fake frankly and a pretentious one at that. He hasn't really done anything for the world other that be condescending.

THANK YOU!

I've been saying this for years... and from the reactions I have gotten I assumed I was the only one who thought so.
 

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I don't think it is good to speak or write bad things about the dead. Michael Jackson is now facing the judgement, I say let God judge him.
 

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Dear Joab,

Would you say the same thing about the death of Hitler?

"I don't think it is good to speak or write bad things about the dead. Michael Jackson is now facing the judgement, I say let God judge him."

If we ignore the evil that men and women do we become passive participants in their actions.

Nelson Kari
 

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If we ignore the evil that men and women do we become passive participants in their actions.

Nelson Kari


In the instance of the allegations against Michael Jackson, how can we be anything but "passive participants" then? It's not as though any single one of us can have any definitive knowledge of "evil," or even wrongdoing. Clearly some boundaries were crossed that most if not all of us would be uncomfortable with, but the fact remains that we do not and cannot know that he actually physically violated any children. In this particular instance, I think Joab is largely right: judge not, lest ye be judged, which was actually applied to an instance where the sin was known, not alleged.....
 

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I don't think we can really compare Michael Jackson to Hitler.

I provided the case on I think page 3 of this thread. We can clearly see those who claim to be victims at other motives behind their agenda.

IMO looking at the way Jackson dealt with children he mostly thought of himself as a child living out his childhood and himself as a big child more than a sexual predator. IMO I think his idea of children is a worshipping,protection type thing. This may stem from his childhood abuse in which he sees himself as a protector figure of children and if we see it like that we can understand more about his realtionship with children.

But that is what I think of Jackson's realtionship with children a way to connect and cope with his own childhood trauma.
Here he talks about his abuse from his father during this interview:
 
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Well, we can see that he's dead and not faking it. CNN had pics of his 3 kids without masks up. Say what you will about him, he was pretty protective of those kids.
 

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I've seen much worse from less celebrated folks. When his example of a father was his own, I think he did better, y'know?
 

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Dear Joab,

Would you say the same thing about the death of Hitler?

"I don't think it is good to speak or write bad things about the dead. Michael Jackson is now facing the judgement, I say let God judge him."

If we ignore the evil that men and women do we become passive participants in their actions.

Nelson Kari

I thought about Hitler when I wrote it, and no, I wouldn't say the same thing about Hitler. We need to know about the evil of Adolph Hitler so we can be determined to not let another Hitler do the things he did, not allow anyone to have his kind of power. I think Michael Jackson's case is different. I will write I'm glad I'm not in his shoes facing the judgement of God...
 

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Say what you like about Michael Jackson it was very difficult not to be touched by him (ahem! ;) )
 

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This seems to apply all too often, including here:
 

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