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  1. Tony Dismukes

    Tony Dismukes MT Moderator Staff Member

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    You've probably already figured this out already, but this is total bunk. No instructor makes his students swear an oath not to reveal who taught them. Even if you managed to find one paranoid teacher with such a rule, I can't imagine finding two in a single lifetime.

    Now it's possible the guy swore an oath to himself not to tell anybody that info. If so, it's probably for some reason like a falling out with his former instructors, he learned from videos, he lied about his rank, etc..
     
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  2. gpseymour

    gpseymour MT Moderator Staff Member

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    Just my take on this. If someone says they took an oath never to reveal their instructor, they probably don't have any decent background. There may be exceptions, but I wouldn't accept their word that they were. Only if they were truly amazing, both as a practitioner and as an instructor, would I even entertain the thought of training with them.
     
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  3. swhitney222

    swhitney222 Yellow Belt

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    Yup

    I agree,

    but when I started I was 15 years old and had no education in the martial arts. lineage was not even an idea and was more of an assumption. Once the topic came up I was to far into the system and teaching for him to turn back. So I completed his entire system and moved on.
     
  4. gpseymour

    gpseymour MT Moderator Staff Member

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    This, unfortunately, is how folks like that stay in business. Most of us don't know enough early in our training to spot this, especially those of us who grew up watching martial arts movies of the 70's, where this kind of nonsense was commonly seen. Most of us just got lucky and found someone who was a good instructor. I remember my best friend found someone I know now was probably like that guy.
     
  5. hoshin1600

    hoshin1600 Senior Master

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    this is why the internet and web sight like this are so important. In the past information was not availible we had to accept what was told to us. now with the internet people should be able to know more before starting. but knowing that they should research is another factor.
    knowing what you should be looking for is also a problem for new students.
     
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  6. gpseymour

    gpseymour MT Moderator Staff Member

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    And I still see schools/programs with a one-page website, with no information about the instructor, the art, their focus, or anything. Just a picture, the address, and maybe a phone number. That would have been useful in 1997.
     
  7. Buka

    Buka Sr. Grandmaster

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    A martial arts guy taking an oath to shut up about anything is like a fish swearing not to swim.
     
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  8. JR 137

    JR 137 Grandmaster

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    I could see an instructor take not an oath to never reveal who his/her teacher is/was...

    The student is so awful that the instructor says "If you EVER tell ANYONE I'm your teacher, I'll f'ing kill you!"
     
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  9. Jenna

    Jenna Senior Master

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    ..these talking fish again! wait.. what those are not normal cigarettes you been toking! :p123
     

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