Martial Arts and Entertainers

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Talk' started by Darrencowan, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Touch Of Death

    Touch Of Death Sr. Grandmaster

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    You should question all nosebleed ranks, in Kenpo; however, most promotions of that caliber were due to a guy actually running several schools, with a black belt running those schools, and people need to be promoted to keep the whole affair afloat. o_O
     
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  2. RTKDCMB

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    Nobody here wants this thread to get locked on the account of rain. This is a forum not a contest:
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    Paul_D Master Black Belt

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    Respect is earnt.
    This isn't how you earn it.
     
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    gpseymour MT Moderator Staff Member

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    It depends upon how "free" they are. And my being upset about it isn't the same as my belt being de-legitimized.
     
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    Seriously? Is this kind of childish nonsense really necessary?
     
  6. Dirty Dog

    Dirty Dog MT Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    Folks, the staff is aware. Please allow us to deal with it. Don't allow yourself to become part of the problem.
     
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    Well I look at it this way, if I am taught well and can thus fight well it doesnt matter. That other guy is actually hurt imo because he has a false impression of his ability. If too many such belts are handed out my assumption would be I wouldn't be getting adequate training.
     
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    Well if your belt can be bought or handed off as a favor. Then it has been de-legitimised.

    You might be a worthy person and a great martial artist. But your rank has been compromised.

    And considering that rank may have been 10 years out of your life.

    That could be quite a concern.
     
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    I think it cheapens the concept of earning a belt.
     
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    Think you need to look at yourself there the one who's been on this board for 2 minutes and has already challenged half of it to a fight
     
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    Respect is one thing cult like worship is just creepy. Do I respect Parker as a martial artist? Of course he was great at what he did and was a great teacher and most of his students have become great teachers and martial artists. But he is human and is absolutely not perfect and honestly there's no doubt in any mind that Elvis rank was fake that's a fact deal with it for whatever reason he did that. Is it right no it's not does it take anything away from him absolutely not.

    You need to grow up and respect opinions you're an adult and you're talking like a 10 year old challenging people to fights that's a lot more not like a martial artist than having a opinion
     
  12. Tony Dismukes

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    I figure celebrities probably train martial arts at about the same level as non-celebrities. A small percentage train, of those who train, most do so casually, a few train seriously, and even fewer reach a high-level of accomplishment.

    The only thing that makes me roll my eyes is when martial arts instructors with celebrity students make a big deal out of it, as if it somehow validates their instructor credentials. Why would it matter to me if you have students who are actors or singers or politicians? Your martial arts instruction is not what made them famous and successful in their chosen fields. Furthermore, celebrities have no special expertise in discerning great martial arts instruction from crappy martial arts instruction.

    Then again, I also don't care when a professional athlete tells me which shoe to wear or beverage to drink, so maybe I'm just out of touch with the zeitgeist.
     
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    Well one of the arts I take, my Kali, only has two belts. Black sash (just what it sounds like) and red sash, which signifies a Guro/instructor. Other than that you simply earn levels. That lack of belts may color my opinion. /Shrug
     
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    Not by one instance. And not by special situations.
     
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    Agreed. At the same time, it's probably good marketing for an instructor, so I can't really blame them for using it to their advantage.
     
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    You do realize that you just challenged me don't you? I take threats and challenges very seriously. Even if it's from a punk.
     
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    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

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    speaking of Martial Arts and Entertainers, Gal Gadot was trained to serve as a combat trainer in the Israel Defense Forces, does that count.
     
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    I'll pretend you didn't say this.
    Do ye drinks a bit, do ye?
     
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    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

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    Not going to read this entire thread, not interested in the drama and school yard antics, so I apologize if any or all of these are repeats

    Gal Gadot was trained to serve as a combat trainer in the Israel Defense Forces.

    Ashton Kutcher BJJ Black belt

    Wesley Snipes: 5th dan black belt in Shotokan karate and 2nd dan black belt in hapkido, also trained in capoeira under Mestre Jelon Vieira and in a number of other disciplines including kung fu at the USA Shaolin Temple and Brazilian jiu-jitsu and kickboxing.

    Mark Dacascos is proficient in his father’s style of martial arts, Wun Hop Kuen Do, he has also studied muay thai with kru puk, capoeira with Mestre Amen Santo, and wushu with Coaches Eric and Debbie Chen.

    Michael Jai White: 8 black belts in shotokan, taekwondo, kobudo, goju ryu, tang soo do, wushu and kyokushin, having been training in jiu-jitsu since the age of seven.

    John Cusack level six black belt in Urquidez’s Ukidokan kickboxing system.
     
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    Charles Bronson had some martial arts training with Tak Kubota.123
     

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