Live Chat Room?
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IIRC, quite some time ago...prior to me joining the forum, I believe there was a chat room. I believe it was removed as it proved to be too difficult to mod and turned into more of a headache than anything else. I don't know if Bob is interested in reviving the idea or not.
Without moderation this place would be a dungheap ... kind of like a few others on the web. A moderated chat would be in keeping with the spirit of the site. If you need to say something not in keeping with the rules, perhaps you should say it somewhere else.
Twin Fist
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or, how about we stop trying to control free speech, and just let people use the ignore feature if they are offended? bottom line is, if i dont like someone or thier opinions, i can grow up, get a thicker skin, or just use the available ignore feature and BOOM
problem solved.
trying to avoid a so called dung heap just leads to censorship
problem solved.
trying to avoid a so called dung heap just leads to censorship
Sorry to come off harsh, but it's a headache I don't want.
In the past we had one. It wasn't much used, and when it was we had porn, spam and jackasses running wild...And the odd disgruntled former member shopping for members for their new MT killer site that vanished 6 weeks later.. The controls at the time to try and block them were a PITA, there were security and stability issues and it was just way more headache than it was worth to us. IF! vB had a solid integrated solution that would tie tightly into the core software I'd reconsider (though it's be a premium feature in all likelihood). There are some add-ins but they are poorly supported and there's no guarantee that if I use one, that it'll continue to work 3 or 4 upgrades later (happened with 2 of them we tried).
As to censorship, run your own site you can let folks do what they want and set the rules as you like. Here, it's my call, and much as I like some topics personally, or might swear like a drunken sailor in 'real life', wading through seas of it here isn't on my 'todo' list. Sorry.
ok, back to the cluster that's my day so far.....
In the past we had one. It wasn't much used, and when it was we had porn, spam and jackasses running wild...And the odd disgruntled former member shopping for members for their new MT killer site that vanished 6 weeks later.. The controls at the time to try and block them were a PITA, there were security and stability issues and it was just way more headache than it was worth to us. IF! vB had a solid integrated solution that would tie tightly into the core software I'd reconsider (though it's be a premium feature in all likelihood). There are some add-ins but they are poorly supported and there's no guarantee that if I use one, that it'll continue to work 3 or 4 upgrades later (happened with 2 of them we tried).
As to censorship, run your own site you can let folks do what they want and set the rules as you like. Here, it's my call, and much as I like some topics personally, or might swear like a drunken sailor in 'real life', wading through seas of it here isn't on my 'todo' list. Sorry.
ok, back to the cluster that's my day so far.....
Just putting people on ignore may not sort the problem, a longish while ago there was a chap who posted up some quite bad anti semitic stuff, he also PM'd it to me, would you suggest I just shrug and put him on ignore, putting the hatred down to 'free speech', because that just gives people like that a licence to carry on and maybe take it further. So many people say why didn't the Jews in Germany fight back, say something etc. Some did obviously but others, took the view similiar to TF's that it was free speech, it wouldn't hurt you and it should be ignored. I think we know what happened. The other thing is as well, this is Bob's online 'house/dojo' he's invited us in so has a right to say what sort of language is acceptable, what subjects and how rude or not people can be. I wouldn't stand for swearing and insulting people in my home whether virtual or not so there's no reason to expect anything different here.
'Free speech' isn't an excuse for being rude, ignorant or inconsiderate of others.
'Free speech' isn't an excuse for being rude, ignorant or inconsiderate of others.
Twin Fist
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if bob dont want it, thats cool
if the software is shaky, thats cool too
but a few four letter words? that a profanity filter will catch anyway? people need to grow up.
free speech applies to all speech or it doesnt apply to any speech
in theory anyway...lol
if the software is shaky, thats cool too
but a few four letter words? that a profanity filter will catch anyway? people need to grow up.
free speech applies to all speech or it doesnt apply to any speech
in theory anyway...lol
Swearing isn't free speech, it's lack of imagination.
Bears repeating. If more people would keep this in mind, moderation work around here would be much simpler.
Twin Fist
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Xue Sheng
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aww come on Bob...you and I both know that people are basically good and nice and they would behave like adults every single time they posted... now if you excuse me I must go lay down because I don't feel so well and I can't believe I even jokingly typed that about the topic
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Twin Fist
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No, you are just looking for an excuse to behave in an anti social way disguised as 'free speech'.
Twin Fist
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read minds much?
you realize the folly of trying to assume you know anyone's motivations, dont you?
you realize the folly of trying to assume you know anyone's motivations, dont you?
Nothing to do with minds, the lack of or motivation. You write, we take it at face value. Bad language isn't free speech, it's telling us that you can't be bothered to think about writing in such a way as to put your point over while observing common decencies. Politeness costs nothing and you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar. More people will consider your points if they aren't assaulted with a barrage of crudity. You can say they can put you on ignore, do you really want to post stuff up and have no one read it, is there a point in that?
Truth in advertising:
"UNfriendly" ... "adults" ... should know enough to go elsewhere.
"UNfriendly" ... "adults" ... should know enough to go elsewhere.
Twin Fist
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you are projecting your own prejudices onto other again.
politeness is relative
decency is relative
crudity is relative.
you are judging others by an arbitrary standard that may not apply to them.
in short, take care of yourself and dont worry so much about others, what they do and why they do it,
perfect example, your diatribe about how describing female martial arts as "cute" was insulting? i thought it was crap, but i wouldnt want to say you cant post it.
you may think something someone else says is crap, but who are you to say that shouldnt be allowed to say it?
you are either down with free speech, and that means the stuff we dont like to, or you are not.
you seem to be not.
politeness is relative
decency is relative
crudity is relative.
you are judging others by an arbitrary standard that may not apply to them.
in short, take care of yourself and dont worry so much about others, what they do and why they do it,
perfect example, your diatribe about how describing female martial arts as "cute" was insulting? i thought it was crap, but i wouldnt want to say you cant post it.
you may think something someone else says is crap, but who are you to say that shouldnt be allowed to say it?
you are either down with free speech, and that means the stuff we dont like to, or you are not.
you seem to be not.
Twin Fist
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as forums go, this is about the least contentious i have ever been to.
try some of the political ones....
jeez
try some of the political ones....
jeez
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