@Anarax I think if you're wanting to use a handgun for effective self defence it has to be under the same process as a martial art - ongoing and expanding. My point about the police having their weapons turned on them was that while it's a tiny percentage, it can happen to people who are trained in and used to violent altercations. The chances must be much higher for an inexperienced person with limited training. It looks a bit like you're saying a short term firearms course prepares you sufficiently - if so, I entirely disagree. Compare to a 'normal' self defence course, whatever those ads say you can't learn to "end any fight in 3-5 seconds" by doing a weekend course, but at least a misplaced punch isn't going to be taken away from you and used against you... And yes, there should be more to firearms training than shooting a paper target - real life situations are orders of magnitude more difficult. Being able to hit anything in a stress situation with a snub nose handgun? One shot one kill is highly unlikely even if you're quite well trained, even five shots one stop is probably pushing it when the gun toting self defending teen is under pressure in the dark.