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Lessons From the Wood-shop
By Kenpo Gary - Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:45:15 GMT
Originally Posted at: KenpoTalk

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I said "wood-shop" not "wood-shed" I have learned plenty a lesson in the wood-shed as well. What I have in mind are two slogans that hung on the walls of my high school word working class that I believe are applicable to the art of Kenpo Karate.

The first slogan is, "we learn by doing." This is certainly true of TRACY SYSTEM KENPO with the hundreds of techniques and variations, the many forms and hours of sparring practice. We learn by doing!

Non-Tracy schools could use the slogan, "we learn by analysis", (analysis paralysis I say) OR, "we learn by hypothesis."

I remember can my own instructor's unwillingness to discuss concepts at any length. He said, "stop discussing and hit the man."


The other slogan in the high school wood-shop was, " measure twice, cut once."

Tracy schools recognize that the measurements as to practical effectiveness of its system's techniques have long been accounted for, so there is no need to do further laborious measurements of the same.

Non-Tracy schools regularly measure scrutinize, further analyze the measurements of their techniques. At some point we must stop measuring and go to work, apply what we know works rather than constantly scrutinizing our plan.

Constipated moves (borrowed Ed Parker axiom) begin with indecision that arises from and rethinking most everything. Speed and reaction time come from motor memory acquired by volumes of practice. Measure twice, but not three, four or forty four times!

These are lessons that the Kenpoist can learn from the woodshop!


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Jeez, is everything this guy writes such blatant propaganda for the Tracy system? Like no one else in the history of the martial arts ever used the concept of "learn by doing."

Hey, that's alright though, Tracy kenpo has the INFINITE ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!
 

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Does he mean all of these that are Non-Tracy schools "learn by analysis", (analysis paralysis I say) OR, "we learn by hypothesis"

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That is pretty amazing
 

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This thread was first opened over on Kenpotalk. The Clark Kent unfortunately brought it over here and is spreading the love.

Please ignore this thread. I'm doing my best to head off this kind of posting over at KT, it's nonsense and I don't know why this guy is doing this.

If you can't help yourself and you just HAVE to respond, please differentiate between the clod-pole who posts, and the lineage he trains in. He is not prepresentative of the lineage. Feel free to express your disagreement/outrage at the person, and not the lineage. The lineage has nothing to do with it.

I say this as a practitioner of Tracy Kenpo myself.

thanks everyone.
 

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This thread was first opened over on Kenpotalk. The Clark Kent unfortunately brought it over here and is spreading the love.

Please ignore this thread. I'm doing my best to head off this kind of posting over at KT, it's nonsense and I don't know why this guy is doing this.

If you can't help yourself and you just HAVE to respond, please differentiate between the clod-pole who posts, and the lineage he trains in. He is not prepresentative of the lineage. Feel free to express your disagreement/outrage at the person, and not the lineage. The lineage has nothing to do with it.

I say this as a practitioner of Tracy Kenpo myself.

thanks everyone.

Oh I am not directing any of this at Tracy kempo, I rather like kempo in general it is just the ridiculusness of the statement by the poster.

You could just as easily say that Kaio-ken is the greatest martial art of all time.
 

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Oh I am not directing any of this at Tracy kempo, I rather like kempo in general it is just the ridiculusness of the statement by the poster.

You could just as easily say that Kaio-ken is the greatest martial art of all time.

I know. It's just that over on KT, it already started to turn into a "my lineage has a bigger d--- than yours!" kind of thing. And often, when other kenpo guys jump in, it becomes a battle of lineages, rather than simply recognizing that one person is an idiot. this "us vs. them" mentality that can be so prevalent in the kenpo world is so stupid. We don't need that crap.
 

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I know. It's just that over on KT, it already started to turn into a "my lineage has a bigger d--- than yours!" kind of thing. And often, when other kenpo guys jump in, it becomes a battle of lineages, rather than simply recognizing that one person is an idiot. this "us vs. them" mentality that can be so prevalent in the kenpo world is so stupid. We don't need that crap.

Agreed, but, unfortunately you can run into that in just about any MA
 

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I don't do Kenpo, so I don't have a horse in this particular race.

But all I can say is "What an unadulterated, self-aggrandizing, pile of steaming crap."
 
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