Keysi Fighting Method/Defence Lab

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    Yrs, the nervous system doesn't function correctly because it's damaged
     
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    Bend your finger back until it runs out of movement, that the elasticity gone, no pain, bend it back another inch, pain
     
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    If you didn't say I was wrong theN m we agree I'm right,
     
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    The study that statement is based on (Jensen, Sabine A., Arnoud Arntz, and Sabine Bouts. “Anxiety and Pain: Epinephrine-induced Hyperalgesia and Attentional Influences.” Pain 76 (1998) 309-316. SciVerse. Web. 4 April 2012.) states that there was a small increase in pain due to electrical stimulation, when epinephrine was injected peripherally. It's a pretty big leap to generalizing that to non-electrical stimulation and centrally-introduced (natural) epinephrine. For the only other pain they refer to in the abstract (heat-related pain), response was reduced. I don't have access to the full article, so can't see what they say about pressure-based pain (which was part of their study), but it not being mentioned in the abstract makes it likely there was either no differentiation or nothing usable in their data.

    I don't see anything to alter my previous understanding that adrenaline load (especially coupled with other stress hormones) reduces pain response.
     
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    Chokes don't hurt, but nobody is more compliant than an unconscious person(right Bill Cosby?)
     
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    Take a look at some of the information on this site: Pain is Weird: A Volatile, Misleading Sensation. It is entirely possible for pain to be generated by the brain - no injury required. That's why I keep asking what injury you're saying is occurring: we have sufficient evidence that it's entirely possible for pain to exist without injury, that we need to always ask what the injury is, rather than simply assuming it exists.
     
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    That's not how pressure work, you're not damaging the nerve you've impinging it usually against bone or you are restricting blood flow.
    You'd damage the tissue around it fore doing anything yo the nerve.
    Your body sends main response to get you to stop doing it.
     
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    Find me a video of defense lab being used in 1. Resistant training 2. In a street fight.
     
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    Further evidence that DL is a $$$ grab



    If Andy believes so strongly in the DNA system, why is he using the ATA krav maga curriculum with DNA nailed to it?
     
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    Any more questions or are we done?
     
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    That Krav video made me laugh, he probably realised that the term "Krav Maga" gets more hits on Youtube than "DefenceLab".
     
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    We have a winner, he met Bill Clarke of the ata at a seminar around the time of the Batman films.

    Its ATA krav maga with the stupid rings and obsession with frames thrown in.

    All the defense lab internal operations are now closely modeled on the ata instructor programme, it's a gigantic pyramid scheme.

    You sign people on as instructors, they open a school and sign people on as instructors.
     
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    Also notice how nothing is really said and its just word soup.


    Advanced inspirational upgrades?
     
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    dam·age
    ˈdamij/
    noun
    1. 1.
      physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.
      synonyms: harm, destruction, vandalism;
    Pain != Damage
     
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    It's looking more and more like you have a personal Greviance against the guy,
     
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    Against who?
     
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    Andy thingy
     

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