Saw this one on the news last night. Guess some criminals don't know how to pick their victims, too bad they learn.
http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_096155944.html
http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_096155944.html
Karate to the rescue
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I particularly liked this part:
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Hello, The martial arts do teach us to defend ourselves, gives confidence in one self.
BUT: Most arts do NOT teach how to fight (real street fighting), anything goes.
Most do not teach you how to handle the Adrenline/fear factors. Try go to someplace dark and alone, with very little people around? ..and experience the helpless feeling...this is what you will face...the unkowns. (heart pounding!)
Street fighting is totally different..and what you think works in class..may not be the same on the street many times.
In the real world, you will be approach unexpectly, most times alone,one on one or more, they maybe carrying some kind of weapon/s. Fear factor kickings in!
Just letting you know....it is different on the streets! If attack..ALWAYS FIGHT BACK-ANYTHING GOES!
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To the kids above! ...Great job...well done!
(never chase your attackers), get a descriptions of muggers for the police to catch them).
Just my thoughts here and ALOHA,
BUT: Most arts do NOT teach how to fight (real street fighting), anything goes.
Most do not teach you how to handle the Adrenline/fear factors. Try go to someplace dark and alone, with very little people around? ..and experience the helpless feeling...this is what you will face...the unkowns. (heart pounding!)
Street fighting is totally different..and what you think works in class..may not be the same on the street many times.
In the real world, you will be approach unexpectly, most times alone,one on one or more, they maybe carrying some kind of weapon/s. Fear factor kickings in!
Just letting you know....it is different on the streets! If attack..ALWAYS FIGHT BACK-ANYTHING GOES!
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To the kids above! ...Great job...well done!
(never chase your attackers), get a descriptions of muggers for the police to catch them).
Just my thoughts here and ALOHA,
Great feelling story about the positive side of MA
Em MacIntosh
3rd Black Belt
I find karate often gets a bad name for street fighting and self defense. It seems a lot of people forgot where it came from. Whatever works applies in karate as well. Some dojo's just need to emphasise certain aspects of their training more. I haven't found any traditional karate that teaches much groundfighting, but some of the grappling techniques aren't taught in any other system. You have to remember your main reason for taking karate. Self-Defense? Fitness? Fun? Competition? Demonstration? Don't take it for one reason and fool yourself that it's for another.
bushidomartialarts
Senior Master
A great story, although I would privately caution young grasshopper not to fight over posessions....
JBrainard
Senior Master
I somewhat dissagree. As was said in the article, "no one was seriously hurt." Now, if he maimed the guy over his gold chain, that wouldn'd be too cool.
I agree.
bushidomartialarts
Senior Master
I agree with this point in principal. But things broke his way. Regardless of training, taking on a bunch of guys (let alone a bunch of guys with tire irons) is a high-risk undertaking.
Ain't no gold chain in the 'verse worth that sort of risk. Only my health and my loved ones.
I'm not at all convinced that simply handing over the gold chain would have meant the bunch of guys with tire irons would suddenly make nice, turn around and leave the guy in peace. Those dudes came looking for a fight.
Exactly!
CoryKS
Senior Master
The guys with the irons came after he had already fought off the first guy. Had he given him the chain, he prolly wouldn't have called for backup.
As far as hurting people goes, I would agree that it would have been uncool to maim the guy trying to steal his chain. But once he and his buddies came back for revenge, they bought whatever he was willing to give them, IMO.
Em MacIntosh
3rd Black Belt
When man face you he is enemy! Enemy deserve NO mercy! *honk*
jdinca
Master Black Belt
Yep. The kid did all right. It also points out the importance of training to deal with more than one attacker.
Hey, wait a minute, I didn't think traditional martial arts was worth a damn when it came to defending yourself no the street...
I'm not so sure that they would have, in fact, left him alone had he submittend the chain to them. They may have not cam eback that night, but they would have known that they had found an easy mark; a person who like so many others aren't willing to fight back. The young man should be commended...and get back to training.
That one never gets old!
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Yeah, there is something about a bunch of guys holding weapons that makes something like "Give me your chain and you won't get hurt" not sound all that believable
bushidomartialarts
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It also occurs to me....why on earth was he still on scene when the guy got back with his pals?
Well....I live so close to a shopping mall that I frequently have to drive across its parking lot when leaving/arriving home.
I've seen some youts come in from a few towns over, driving around the lots looking for trouble. There was a period of time where car insurance in my town went through the roof because of all the car breaks in the parking lot of the mall. The mall has parking lot security but over the past year or so the security has been upped. There is security in the parking lot 24x7, during operating hours I frequently see 2 or more security vans on patrol.
If the assailant was mugging the kid, there's no question that the thugs and their car were not far away. Given the size of mall parking lots in the Northeast (and other locales), it is very conceivable that the assailant could scoot over to the car and then return with the thugs all before the teen reached his car.
