Judo Osoto Gari ???

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  1. quasar44

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    This is such a simple and devastating self defense move
    The outer reap

    From ytube ..you need to get the persons weight on the leg you attack . You can start with collar and biceps control or over and under etc

    This move is amazing
     
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    Quite popular move. Happens often when clinched and moving about for positioning.
     
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    This "front cut (or diagonal cut)" throw is the most logical throw used in the throwing art.

    - You let your leg to do your leg job, let your hands to do your hand job.
    - You don't have to turn your back into your opponent.
    - You can control your opponent's arms so his hands won't give you any trouble.

    But you need to develop your leg skill "diagonal cut" along with single leg balance (or "front cut" with body momentum) that most beginners don't have.

    If "single leg" and "double legs" that both don't require any leg skill and single leg balance are considered as beginner level skill. The "cut" will be considered as intermediate level skill.
     
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    my favorite outer reap is the karate neck ring throw variation where your arm wraps around their neck pushing their head back as you go for the reap
     
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    Variation. My Hapkido style taught what they called a Tiger Mouth strike, which was a thrust of the striking hand, hand opened with thumb and fingers splayed, the principal striking point was the base of the forefinger down into the web of the palm from that point to the base of the thumb. The idea was to strike, then grip. I guess you "could" grip & rip? I'd just grip and hold 'em.

    DO that strike as your kuzushi and hit them with a same side Osoto at the same time... pretty much ends the problem. I ended a few take it outside problems witht hat technique in the bad old days.

    Also, while it's nice to have their weight firmly on the leg being reaped, it's not absolutely necessary. You can execute the throw most cleanly and efficiently at the moment when they commit to "putting" the weight onto that leg... the leg never gets to the ground, more of a foot sweep timing thing. Beautiful when you catch it just right, the dude just floats up in the air....
     
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    To make your opponent's spine to bend side way will give you better result.
     
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    Can also be done with their weight mostly on the other leg, so long as that weight is at the heels and moving back. The structure breaking is important - without it, you're hoping they'll fall down when you sweep.
     
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    "Cut" can be done in 2 different ways:

    You can use your:

    - leg to hook up your opponent's leading leg and take him down diagonally (45 degree to your left, or 45 degree to your right.
    - momentum to run him down and take him down straight backward.

    Old saying said, "If you can attack your opponent's back leg, attack his back leg. Otherwise, attack his leading leg first. You then attack his back leg afterward."

    You can also use cut to counter your opponent's cut if you can obtain the same hand contacts as your opponent does. When your opponent has upper collar grip on you, if you can circular your head under his arm to the other side, you can cut him right at that moment.
     
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    Snicker, smirk.

    :bag:




    Sorry, I'll be over there >>>>>
     
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    :D I bet you thought that we'd never seen it or practised it before. I love you tell people who have been doing it for years how to do it though, that's chutzpah. :D
     
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    Should you reap slightly perpendicular at an
    angle ???
     
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    Perpendicular to what?
     
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    to your opponent
    I noticed this is some videos by judo experts
     
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    Perpendicular being at 90 degrees, what part of “your opponent” is that referencing? And compared to what part of you?
     
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    I'm wondering how "slightly perpendicular" works at all tbh, even before getting into points of reference ;)
     
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    Its more slightly Perpen
    Ytube check out Sampson judo from London and another one with a Japanese champ saying the same thing
    You get more power and hips into it
     
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    Directly facing the opp was also used by others
    .It was half and half but I felt the higher level guys were slightly Perpend
     
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    My point was that perpendicular is 90° from a plane of reference.

    There's no such thing as slightly perpendicular - you can't have "slightly 90°".
     
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    ok then maybe 40-60 degrees turn to your left if you attack his right leg
     
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    Maybe post links to the videos?123
     

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