In order for something to work...?

[drop bear]

If the guy is on top of him trying to turn his face into hamburger, the guy on the bottom attempting the choke should take his chances. Especially if he's on concrete or a similar surface.

Outside of talking your way out of something, a defensive choke is the most humane way of ending a physical altercation.

I don't disagree.but a judge will. And you can't argue with a judge.

 

[Hanzou]

How much of the chokes show up in the Combatives (first 36, as I recall)? I need a refresher on ground work (to get back to responses beyond escape), and was thinking of going through the combatives if my legs will let me.

Mainly the major ones like Triangle, RNC, and Guillotine and their various applications. Depending on school focus you'll learn more "sporty" chokes as well. White belt curriculum is pretty old school Bjj with lots of standup mixed with ground work and focuses on things like closed guard, escaping head locks, escaping mount, escaping bear hugs, etc. That's Relson's system though. I'm not sure if his program follows the exact same program as the Torrance guys.

But yeah, if you're looking for more self defense based Bjj, Relson, Rickson, or Torrance affiliated schools are the way to go. My only gripe with Torrance is that they're getting weirder and weirder as time goes on, and frankly its kind of troubling.

 

[Hanzou]

I don't disagree.but a judge will. And you can't argue with a judge.

Yeah, I'll happily deal with a judge over dealing with brain damage and crushed bones in my skull.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Mainly the major ones like Triangle, RNC, and Guillotine and their various applications. Depending on school focus you'll learn more "sporty" chokes as well. White belt curriculum is pretty old school Bjj with lots of standup mixed with ground work and focuses on things like closed guard, escaping head locks, escaping mount, escaping bear hugs, etc. That's Relson's system though. I'm not sure if his program follows the exact same program as the Torrance guys.

But yeah, if you're looking for more self defense based Bjj, Relson, Rickson, or Torrance affiliated schools are the way to go. My only gripe with Torrance is that they're getting weirder and weirder as time goes on, and frankly its kind of troubling.

Thanks.

 

[Tonita Rervant]

It is more complex comparing in real time environment. And training make us ready for that.

As far as brutality is concern, it should be quick. Otherwise, you can't control the situation.