Hello, I ask forgiveness for anyone I offended when I said that martial arts are useless and all that rot. Karate is just as good, if not better, than submission wrestling. What makes me say so? I witnessed fights on youtube where guys who seemed frail and weak knocked out hard, dangerous thugs with karate moves. I was suddenly humbled, for a long time I thought that grappling was the only truth in combat. But now I see that karate is VERY EFFECTIVE, and I shouldn't make blanket statements about all martial artists. I personally don't like to train in Karate, because I need something more physical and competitive, like BJJ, but traditional karate is effective and good. I am humbled. Thank you.