How practical is Martial Arts for self defense?

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  1. Buka

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    Refute?

    I honestly don’t know what you mean.
     
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    Sooooo very true. This is one of the things beginner kung fu students learn really quick. After my arms became conditioned it was like I had to do baby blocks during drills with beginners, because anything beyond that would hurt them lol. I remember experiencing that as a beginner too, so I know how it feels to have unconditioned arms with conditioned arms. It's just like leg kicks. An unconditioned leg isn't going to last long against a conditioned leg.

    Yep this too.
     
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    Especially if the block hits that nerve in the arms. I had someone give me a good block /strike and it nailed that nerve. My whole arm went numb and weak
     
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    no MA training < with MA training

     
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    Not at all, @jobo. I'm suggesting that folks shouldn't make claims that cannot be substantiated, and that doing so as part of a sales pitch is a questionable business practice.
     
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    IF it plays out like that, yes.

    Personally, if I was that martial artist, I would have walked away and just called that kid a "b****" as soon as it became clear to everyone that he no longer wanted it. Chances are, he would have been unable to hide his feeling of relief.

    Furthermore, the non-martial artist was at least able to save SOME face, because he stood up and fought.

    Deny him that dignity, and you humiliate him more than you would have by knocking him out.

    But that's just me.
     
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    this is DBs straw-man you've borrow for the day

    so give us some real world claim dubious businesses have made as there marketing scam
     
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    How do you know what I believe? Do you know what questions I ask?
     
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    No. The man won. But you want to say nonsense like “shudda wudda cudda” to try and take away from it.

    I’ve read you like an open book.
     
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    As we were just talking about this a page or two ago, you either have the memory of a goldfish, or you're making another bad attempt at trolling.
     
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    I try not to do the humiliation thing. Humiliation can stir up the "payback mentality." I played basketball in the park as a teen and there was always that guy who got his feeling hurt from trash talk and losing. And it was always that person that was most likely to go home get a gun and comeback and shoot up the basketball court. One day one of these losers said he was going to go home and get his gun. I left shortly after he did because I wasn't trying to find out if he was bluffing or serious. The only thing I knew for certain was that he got humiliated on the court.
     
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    If anyone ever doubts the validity of good martial arts training then have them take a look at some LeiTai fights
     
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    Where is that tintinnabulation coming from?
     
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    By the way we can also look at this from the other side. When street fighters attempt to do things like box.

    And there are trained fighters who make a living handling those guys.



    So tent boxing is a good example as well.
     
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    I’m not asking anyone to prove anything. I am agreeing with you that it cannot be proven, and sharing my opinion that as such, shouldn’t be used to sell a product. I don’t think that’s controversial. Seems like something we should all be able to agree on.
     
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    Likely from the random voices in your head that have been telling you to say all those random irrelevant things that you've been saying. For example, your very comment that I'm quoting right now.
     
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    I watched some of these videos and it stated that the trained fighter only hits the challengers hard if the challengers try to hurt them. So you have the trained guy doing light - medium sparring and the challenger who is giving all they got to keep pace. Looks like a good workout.
     
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    Yeah and they go to these hard communities to do those shows.

    They are all cowboys farmers or miners. So they are not exactly toying with physical weaklings either.

    Mount isa for example.

     
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    Generally speaking, boxing is exactly what most non-martial artists try to do when they fight. So when they go up against someone who is actually trained in the very thing they're trying to do... it's not gonna go well. They're literally trying to fight the martial artist's fight.123
     
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