Gracie Academy flies bullied and beaten girl and her family in for training

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  1. Charlemagne

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    Cool story about something that Martial Arts can do to help people. I remember watching the video of the assault when it first happened, and it is good to see something positive come out of such a horrible thing.

    And before someone jumps on it, no, I don't think that BJJ/BJJ is going to solve all of your problems with 5 on 1 odds. However, it certainly cannot hurt to know how to get back on your feet when you are taken down against your will. In a 5 on 1 situation like that one, a weapon is about the only thing that is going to equal the odds, or at least come close.

    Regardless, good video.


    https://www.jiujitsutimes.com/rener-ryron-gracie-fly-bullied-girl-gym-teach-bjj/
     
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    I think it is enough to know someone cares. And that you can do something about it.

    Whether or not she can fight off 5 people with BJJ is different to the perception that she can actively work towards a solution.
     
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    Absolutely disgusting incident (the attack), I remember when the video came out but hadn't heard about this. I'm sure that to them it was good just to get that kind of support and to show people care
     
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    Cool video. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  5. JR 137

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    Sometimes being able to defend against 1 keeps the other 4 from getting involved. Not always, but sometimes.

    Either way, good on her, her family, and the Gracies.

    As a side note, I'm a karate guy. But there's no way my daughters are going to grow up without knowing how to defend themselves off their back and against being grabbed. BJJ or Judo. There's won't have to stick with it forever, but at least long enough to be able to get out of those types of situations. And a police department self defense course.
     
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    She was in a bad situation with multiple people pulling on her hair.
     
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    Only if you can really hurt the one person that you are defending against. If I break the arm or finger of that 1 person then the other 4 may not jump in.
     
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    It would have to be quick, but yes, I agree.
     
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    Good job papa. It's not the end all, be all, but I agree with you. Knowing, and being good at, some basics of the ground game is something everyone, particularly women, should have.

     
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    Nothing's the be all, end all by any means. Women face different threats then men do, generally speaking. And not to get graphic, but avoiding and defending against sexual assault/rape is one of the highest priorities I have for my daughters in the MA context.

    That video you posted is one of the ones that have stuck out most to me over the years. I see and hear stuff, and I pray "not my daughters." Praying isn't enough.
     
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    And... perhaps she could find them... one at a time.

    Like, just wait at each of their houses, one day after the next.

    Put a whoopin' on each of them, one at a time. I don't know, there is some deterrence value there.
     
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    It would make for some cool reality tv.
     
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    ^ This and that is why I'm beyond thrilled that my 10yo daughter voluntarily wanted to join when I took my son for a BJJ trial class. We're all starting in June after we get back from vacation......
     
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    This is the biggest part of it, to me. That can be a traumatic experience, and having a way to work on it can be really helpful, emotionally. And if it should ever happen again, BJJ would not be the worst choice of toolsets to try to escape.
     
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    I'm not a fan of reality TV, but I'd sign up for a satellite service just to watch that show.
     
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    Great 1 week of training...that's really going to help...sorry but to me this just sounds like a publicity thing. You can't learn a martial art in a week especially jiu jitsu she won't even have grasped the basics by now. If she carries on great but I very much doubt it and I just hope she doesn't have false confidence in her abilities and thinks she can beat 5 people at a time
     
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    I agree with that. I'm sure they've probably strongly suggested she continues training when she gets home under a local teacher. I'm sure they've got connections and can make it easier to find someone.
     
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    Sucking at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.
     
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