Game Of Thrones featurette!

[granfire]

I get where you are coming from, but... thats how the books were written. I question whether it should be omitted because you are offended by it, or should you recognize that is what the Author wrote and find more suitable entertainment for your tastes?

I look at it like this: Could you imagine me getting in a Huff because the "Dresden Files" depicted the use of magic, which is against my religion... even tho it's a series of books written about a Wizard? It would seem silly to suggest that they make it a straight up PI series?

I only bring this up because one of my reservations about the series in the first place was that they would water down the sex, violence and non-pc topics and relationships that in many cases are vital to driving the story to make the Show more acceptable. *I* for one am glad they do not appear to be doing that.

Well, there is this thing in movies:
It can be implied.

The old movies were pretty good at implying. You never saw a naked body but the subject matter was far from tame. I have personal shock moment from rewatching some of that old stuff.
I mean, if you were to show it, the movie would get an X rated...maybe more than one!

Then again, I have seen all the softporn I ever need to see...back in the good old days when the European marked opened to private stations and a small but influential one invented a game show called 'Tutti Frutti'.

Or you could not watch that other private one from Friday Night til Monday morning...with all the shag movies...


(But I suppose it has to have a reason to be on premium, how else would you get people to pay extra?!)

 

[Empty Hands]

I agree 100%. I was explaining to my Girlfriend who has never read the books, when she was talking about what *******s most of the characters on the show were, that the series is completly filled with people you really just wanna see get what's coming to them, and failry often do...

Out of all the really nasty people in the books, I think it's Walder Frey who bothers me the most. He isn't the most powerful or even the most cruel, but he sets my teeth on edge. Even before the Red Wedding.

 

[Omar B]

Well, there is this thing in movies:
It can be implied.
The old movies were pretty good at implying. You never saw a naked body but the subject matter was far from tame. I have personal shock moment from rewatching some of that old stuff.
I mean, if you were to show it, the movie would get an X rated...maybe more than one!
Then again, I have seen all the softporn I ever need to see...back in the good old days when the European marked opened to private stations and a small but influential one invented a game show called 'Tutti Frutti'.
Or you could not watch that other private one from Friday Night til Monday morning...with all the shag movies...
(But I suppose it has to have a reason to be on premium, how else would you get people to pay extra?!)

You make a point of things being implied. But it's on HBO, a premium channel known for going all out with their series. I think they acquired the books with an eye towards adapting them as is, because they fit the HBO mold quite well.

 

[granfire]

You make a point of things being implied. But it's on HBO, a premium channel known for going all out with their series. I think they acquired the books with an eye towards adapting them as is, because they fit the HBO mold quite well.

Like I said, you gotta feed the masses if you want their money

I am sure if it makes it to cable (like the Sopranos), I am sure much implication will be installed...probably wrecking it, but alas...



(now, wait...if this is all about watching the bad people getting their just deserts...that would make it a Soap...just with more skin? If that is even possible...)

 

[Omar B]

A soap with more skin? Is Steinbeck's The Pearl just about some dude with a pearl? Your gross simplification of a really great and groundbreaking story is quite shocking. You've not read them I assume, but I would have assumed from you more than belittling because you seem to take issue with sex and violence on TV.

 

[Sukerkin]

Err ... humour I think?

 

[granfire]

A soap with more skin? Is Steinbeck's The Pearl just about some dude with a pearl? Your gross simplification of a really great and groundbreaking story is quite shocking. You've not read them I assume, but I would have assumed from you more than belittling because you seem to take issue with sex and violence on TV.

:eye-popping::jaw-dropping::xtrmshock


You did not get it?!

(Nichtlachen-Keinwortz is catching these days)

Well, I didn't read the book, I won't see the show until it makes it to - dunno, cable or netflix (even then I doubt I will, not watching much TV these days)

However....
Point was made about a lot of violence and sex in the show, that can be distracting to the story flow. (I guess the target audience is clear, it's not the Missus...)

About the plot was said that it's a bunch of nasty people one wants to see getting what's coming to them...
But that is just about like any old soap opera still on TV. You can't wait for soandso to finally go to jail, get punched or killed or whatever. Not to mention of the intermingling relationships....

So their budget is bigger and they show more.

yeah, maybe I am having a problem with sex and violence on TV, I am living in this state for far too long and I find myself getting old....(and then again, I don't like watching things I can do myself....minus the violence...)

:bangahead:

 

[Cryozombie]

However....
Point was made about a lot of violence and sex in the show, that can be distracting to the story flow. (I guess the target audience is clear, it's not the Missus...)

Well, In some cases, sure. However IMO the sex and violence creates the story flow in this case.

Its "The Game of Thrones" its about political maneuvering and war and all the nastiness that goes along with that in a "Fantasy Kingdom". The sex and incest and selling of ones sister to gain an army etc... were integral to the political manipulation going on in the realm, not secondary.

 

[granfire]

Well, In some cases, sure. However IMO the sex and violence creates the story flow in this case.

Its "The Game of Thrones" its about political maneuvering and war and all the nastiness that goes along with that in a "Fantasy Kingdom". The sex and incest and selling of ones sister to gain an army etc... were integral to the political manipulation going on in the realm, not secondary.

Well, since I won't see it in the near future, I guess I am the blind speaking of color.

However there is the matter as of tools used to tell a story.
Sometimes the implied carries more impact than the shown. Imagination is a powerful thing and can carry you much further than an actual image.

It's not like the Pirates of old Hollywood didn't rape and plunder (ore cruesomely murder their victims) but a blood curdling scream can carry you past the mechanics into the individual's hidden fears you can't reach with the direct imagery.

But I gotta go, feed my Seeing Eye dog.

 

[CoryKS]

This is the series in which a guy gets his head lopped off and a wolf's head sewn on in its place, right? Where a guy gets crowned with molten gold? And the sexual content is the problem?

 

[granfire]

This is the series in which a guy gets his head lopped off and a wolf's head sewn on in its place, right? Where a guy gets crowned with molten gold? And the sexual content is the problem?

LOL, cool, right!

:lfao:

 

[Omar B]

Well, since I won't see it in the near future, I guess I am the blind speaking of color.
However there is the matter as of tools used to tell a story.
Sometimes the implied carries more impact than the shown. Imagination is a powerful thing and can carry you much further than an actual image.
It's not like the Pirates of old Hollywood didn't rape and plunder (ore cruesomely murder their victims) but a blood curdling scream can carry you past the mechanics into the individual's hidden fears you can't reach with the direct imagery.
But I gotta go, feed my Seeing Eye dog.

Yeah, they could imply the sex and violence, but then why not imply the war of 7 kingdoms too? Personally, I wanna see the Direwolf (a wolf the size of a horse!) tearing into people in battle under the Stark Banner, some of my favorite battle sequences ever written.

It's not as if sex and violence just happened on TV and it's all localized in one show. There's sex, incest, violence, slavery, war, but it's also a reflection of Europe in the middle ages.

 

[granfire]

Yeah, they could imply the sex and violence, but then why not imply the war of 7 kingdoms too? Personally, I wanna see the Direwolf (a wolf the size of a horse!) tearing into people in battle under the Stark Banner, some of my favorite battle sequences ever written.

It's not as if sex and violence just happened on TV and it's all localized in one show. There's sex, incest, violence, slavery, war, but it's also a reflection of Europe in the middle ages.

Keep breaking my heart and I will have to sob into my pillow tonight!

 

[Empty Hands]

SPOILERS - TO THE END OF THE SEASON

So we're past episode 8 now. What do you all think? I think the show has done a pretty amazing job. I just watched Greatjon Umber get his fingers bitten off by Robb's wolf. Or Shagga! Some of the moments on this show have been amazing. I was literally on the edge of my seat during the attempt on Bran's life, and the fight between the assassin and Catelyn, ending with Bran's wolf tearing his throat out. Or Khal Drogo's fight in the last episode! Amazing.

The acting has been damn good too. Robert and Cersei's scene, invented as it was. Varys and Littlefinger. Tyrion! The kids have done a pretty amazing job too, especially Arya.

I'm curious to see how they will handle the birth of the dragons.

The only complaint is a restricted sense of scale. Khal Drogo's khalasar in particular looks like it's composed of about 40 people. Nearly all of the Vaes Dothrak scenes took place in tents. King Robert's hunting party was four people, etc. I understand the constraints though, and I prefer a smaller scale while accomplishing excellent acting and set work to sacrificing those elements.

"The First Sword of Braavos does not run!"

"I already have!"

 

[Omar B]

It's been fun so far, I'll wait for the end of the season for my final verdict. I hate the fact that they cleave so close to the books at some points then all of a sudden there are scenes just thrown in for no reason that don't do a thing to forward the story. Or the people who know things they should not know.

 

[Cryozombie]

Even with the minor changes I think they are doing a phenominal job. I was so afraid this was gonna go the way of "True Blood" (although those deviated more and more AFTER the first season so we will see) and just be absolultey nothing like the books. I am glad to see I was wrong.

 

[lindtoholic]

I've had to restrain myself from reading through the other replies as I have yet to read the series yet (please don't hate on me!) although I do intend to once I have the money to, or failing that I am going to request them as presents. I absolutely love the show - and that is an understatement - so I cannot wait for yet more to be released. In particular the second season.

The Facebook page for Game of Thrones is fantastic for keeping up with casting - I can't say I know who's playing who off by heart, but if you have Facebook I highly recommend taking a look there, as it's bound to reveal either the actor cast, or the potential actors for the roles.

 

[Omar B]

I've had to restrain myself from reading through the other replies as I have yet to read the series yet (please don't hate on me!) although I do intend to once I have the money to, or failing that I am going to request them as presents. I absolutely love the show - and that is an understatement - so I cannot wait for yet more to be released. In particular the second season.

The Facebook page for Game of Thrones is fantastic for keeping up with casting - I can't say I know who's playing who off by heart, but if you have Facebook I highly recommend taking a look there, as it's bound to reveal either the actor cast, or the potential actors for the roles.

A $7.00 paper back breaks the bank for ya?

By the way, there will be no Blackfish in the series. I was wondering why he didnt show up in the previous season, now I hear they are just doing away with yet another great character.

 

[Ken Morgan]

Library ?

 

[Ken Morgan]