Firearms training?

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  1. oftheherd1

    oftheherd1 Senior Master

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    Let me pick a nit (you probably know that is what nitpickers do; pick nits :)). Gas operated weapons let a small amount of the gas to be diverted out of the barrel to a piston head to move the bolt backwards. Most simi or auto pistols I am aware of use blow back to move the slide back.

    But I get your point.
     
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    how do i disarm someone with a gun? offer them a Klondike Bar in exchange for the gun.....works every time.
     
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    Yes, fair distinction on something I worded badly...

    It's still relatively easy to stop it chambering another round though.
     
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    British schools years back used to have nurses to check children's hair for nits, getting off lessons for 'Nitty Nora' to check your head was great fun...………...
     
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    And they had a special comb too.
     
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  6. oftheherd1

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    When I was a kid we used to accuse other kids of having cooties.

    A quick google of the term:

    The earliest recorded uses of the term in English are by British soldiers during the First World War to refer to lice that proliferated in battlefield trenches.

    The lice of the First World War trenches nicknamed "cooties" were also known as "arithmetic bugs" because "they added to our troubles, subtracted from our pleasures, divided our attention, and multiplied like hell
     
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    That would make an interesting commercial.
     
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    Those still exist; really close teeth to catch not only the nits/cooties, but their eggs.

    Who is the dummy who misdirected this from gun defense to nits?

    Oh, me.
     
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    No.

    Just plain NO.

    Even with the best preparation, there's always a possibly of something being sent out of the barrel. That's what killed Brandon Lee... and others have been hurt. Use marking cartridges, use Airsoft-type guns, etc... but make sure that whatever you use is designed to be used for training and then use appropriate safety measures. If you want to get used to the sound (auditory exclusion during an actual gun disarm will probably negate any issues...), use blanks fired in the vicinity but pointed in a safe direction.
     
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    Sounds like all good ideas. Thanks.
     
  11. AlecBeach

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    Only problem is the first round firing
     
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    Hence the second two paragraphs and the caveat of redirecting that first shot...
     
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    Good idea
     
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    Damn... I should have known...
     
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    I wonder if there is a specific practice or study dedicated to this technique...
     
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    I imagine there is.. I see videos all the time of people practicing with dummy guns in a Do-Jo environment. Maybe classes around me in Cali...
     
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    I'd imagine it'd be tough to find that kind of stuff in your state, but maybe look around for a class or establishment for that
     
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    Yes, but not getting shot in the process wasn't excluded in the criteria mentioned!


    Since it was brought up, simunition rounds work well for this type of training, i believe air soft might as well but i dont know if they can go out of battery. This is for live training for a lack of better words, if you need to see if you will get shot or not while training and not just doing disarms.
     
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    Personally, I do airsoft for fun but have done it for force on force training with a company in my area near me a handful of times. It's a good tool for getting someone comfortable with the physical aspect of being near a firearm without "real" danger. Pretty cheap too.
     
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    Aren't those things bulky and toyish like the paintball stuff though?
     

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