Ex-Porn star reads to kids

[granfire]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4527084...udents-causes-stir/from/toolbar/#.Tr9vlPKc5Wo

and we have another storm in the water glass.
As Sasha Grey, former porn star reads to elementary students in a California school.

Parents question why the school could not have found a firefighter or policeman to read to the kids.
heck, maybe they need a football coach, I know of a few without a job right now.

(Seriously though...I hope that 1st and 3rd graders have not had an eyefull of Ms Grey in her notable roles. So only the parents really know that this young woman did something other than reading to kids first...)

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Good for her.

 

[WC_lun]

As long as she isn't bringing her profession into the school room, I don't see the big deal. Maybe some of the parents should volunteer to read to the kids, if it is such an issue for them. Heck, the kids probably just see Ms Grey as a pretty young woman who cares enough to read to them.

 

[HammockRider]

Next week Ron Jeremy will be teaching Shop Class.

 

[Sukerkin]

This quote from the young lady shows some well chosen words with some thought behind them:

"I believe education is a universal right. I committed to this program with the understanding that people would have their own opinions about what I have done, who I am and what I represent," the statement said, according to TMZ.
"I am an actor. I am an artist. I am a daughter. I am a sister. I am a partner. I have a past that some people may not agree with, but it does not define who I am."

 

[Sukerkin]

People get on their high-horse far too easily and with too little forethought sometimes (I'm as guilty of it as the next man, of course, it is a sad part of human nature to pre-judge ).

I wonder how some of those complaining would react if it was Shannon Tweed (the soon to be Mrs Simmons (about time, Gene!)) rather than Sasha Grey?

EDIT: I stand corrected, Shannon and Gene are already Mr & Mrs - congratulations to them both and a big "Well done!" to Shannon for making the rock-monster finally do what he claimed he never would .

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20534013,00.html

 

[Xue Sheng]

Its California what do you expect :uhyeah:

Xue will now duck and cover

 

[JohnEdward]

That is funny considering the way porn stars deliver their lines in their movies. Only in California. :lol:

 

[Dirty Dog]

Would they scream if it had been some action/adventure star who blows up 50 people each movie? Which is worse, blowing them or blowing them up?

 

[JohnEdward]

But, I do see how some parents may object....having all those parents stay for the reading. There has to be consideration of the parents and their concerns, equally. You can't condemn parents if you praise Grey for what she is doing. I am sure the parents where not warned appropriately she would be reading to their kids. That could be the concern of no choice or heads up. Common it's California and not an Amish community in Pennsylvania, I am not sure if her being a porn star is all that big of an issue. The other thing is, she is transitioning from porn to main steam, reading to kids was probably for PR. To shed that porn actress image. Porn actors are not taken seriously as actors in Hollywood, and image is everything. She isn't reading to kids for altruist reasons.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

John, you and I don't know her.
I know her work. She was quite good at it, did it for 5 years, and says she's moved on.

Her comment here is telling:

Grey, however, has no plan to walk away from programs aimed at helping kids, saying she'll "remain an active supporter and participant in education-focused initiatives."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2011/11/sasha-grey-porn-reading-school-kids.html

Time will tell if it's PR or sincerity.

Her website: http://sashagrey.com/

Her porn retirement http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...sha-grey-porn-refuses-play-sex-related-roles/

 

[billc]

Well, maybe we could get attractive, well spoken members of the tobacco and alcoholic beverage industries to go and read to the kids as well. Perhaps even some of the drug cartels could send representatives to read to the kids. It would be good for them as well don't you think.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Not the same argument.

By all reports, Ms. Grey is intelligent, puts herself 100% into whatever she is doing, and has avoided the pitfalls of her former profession.
She now wants to move forward with the next phase of her life, and in doing so give to a cause that looks to be important to her.

Should puritanical views on sex be allowed to block that?

 

[Buka]

Maybe reading to the kids should only be done by those with past work experience in higher education. Like, you know, Penn State or something.

As long as her past is in the past, good for her.

 

[billc]

There is a show called the Big Bang Theory, adult in nature due to sex content, and it is about 4 science geeks and their neighbor, an actress/waitress across the hall. In one episode the female character, Penny, is stressed about her life and complains to the group that she drove 2 hours to an audition to only find out is was a porn movie. She didn't take the job. By allowing Ms. Grey into a classroom, society is saying that porn is actually a viable alternative, no different than police work, being a doctor, or a secretary or a scientist. The character, Penny, in essence, would have been right to take that film role according to the some of the posters here on Martialtalk. I understand the idea that it is, in some cases, a personal choice to do that line of work. Mainstreaming it, by letting Ms. grey read to an elementary school, essentially says to the older sisters and brothers of those first graders that that line of work isn't any different than any other line of work. I think that it is. I don't think she should have been allowed to read to those kids. She makes it easier for someone on the fringe to make the wrong choices, and more than likely not come out of it the same way Ms. Grey did.

 

[JohnEdward]

John, you and I don't know her.
I know her work. She was quite good at it, did it for 5 years, and says she's moved on.

Her comment here is telling:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2011/11/sasha-grey-porn-reading-school-kids.html

Time will tell if it's PR or sincerity.

Her website: http://sashagrey.com/

Her porn retirement http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...sha-grey-porn-refuses-play-sex-related-roles/

No moral issue for me.

Bob, true I don't know her, or her work, I didn't watch her adult films and I don't watch the HBO show. I do know that porn stars have an uphill battle making the transition to mainstream acting - it isn't because of morals. And she is in Hollywood and from what I read is making the transition. And I know Hollywood, and PR is everything. You have to be noticed, you have to be over the top. Now she, as a person, may have sincerely read to the kids. I don't know about that. But the arrangements where done for PR reasons, possibly to start a controversy to get her more attention, to get studios to notice her. That is the Hollywood game. I really don't see it as a moral issue, personally. Hell, if it was Charley Sheen, or Lindsey Lohan reading it would be a different story, there would be no disgruntled parents. It is California after all. Disgruntled parents where probably upset because she wasn't an "A" star.

Here is the other deal, California is star struck all the time, the school admin who ok'd this and everyone else who didn't watch her porn movies and only aware of her HBO work, said MOVIE STAR, WE GOT A MOVIE STAR. Then one kid whose parent watches porn and knows of her movies gets upset and makes a stink. The school should have been more responsible in notifying parents. To avoid this. But it was probably sprung on the school within a couple of days, being star struck went Ga Ga over it. Knowing full well by Grey's people it would be controversial and would get her into the news.

I don't think it has anything to do with morals. My god, its California, I am surprised some stage parents weren't offer up their kids to her.

 

[JohnEdward]

Maybe reading to the kids should only be done by those with past work experience in higher education. Like, you know, Penn State or something.

As long as her past is in the past, good for her.

Oh....that is rough.....:lol: is that wrong for me to laugh at.

 

[billc]

I'm curious, was it the drug cartel point that you see as not being the same? I can see that point since drugs right now are illegal, and the drug cartels kill innocents to do their business. What if, in the future, the recreational drug business is legal, would it be okay for an attractive, well spoken member of that industry to read to first graders?

 

[elder999]

. Mainstreaming it, by letting Ms. grey read to an elementary school, essentially says to the older sisters and brothers of those first graders that that line of work isn't any different than any other line of work. I think that it is. I don't think she should have been allowed to read to those kids. She makes it easier for someone on the fringe to make the wrong choices, and more than likely not come out of it the same way Ms. Grey did.

Except that she was on the fringe-she is mainstream. Having her read to 1st and 3rd graders wasn't a big deal-they probably didn't know what her mainstream work was any more than they knew what her porn work was. The problem, of course, is that people called attention to the fact of who she is/was/used to be. Little kids went home or to the library and Googled her. Parents were outraged. Big whoop.

When's the last time you read to a room full of kids? She used to make nasty movies, so she shouldn't be permitted anywhere near children, or to do good things?

In life, young man, there are choices-you might not agree with them, might not make them the same way, and might raise your children not to make those choices-as I did. What you can't do is judge those choices, or people too harshly for making them, especially when they've made changes-it's kind of like condemning an alchoholic who hasn't touched a drop in 10 years, in my opinion.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

bill. keyword. former.