Do you still go to your class?

[jobo]

Where have you got the assumption that anyone in America cannot go to the doctor?
No one is going to be turned away.

were talking about hospital admissions, not visiting the doctor

 

[dvcochran]

were talking about hospital admissions, not visiting the doctor

Same is true, more so even.

 

[jobo]

Same is true, more so even.

thats news to me, so the poor never die coz they cant afford medical treatment, someone should tell those with no health insurance, it will come as a great relief

 

[dvcochran]

thats news to me, so the poor never die coz they cant afford medical treatment, someone should tell those with no health insurance, it will come as a great relief

Your news media has the healthcare situation here way overblown.
Elective surgery is suspended right now and is likely limited for some but no one is turned down at an ER, ever.

 

[jobo]

Your news media has the healthcare situation here way overblown.
Elective surgery is suspended right now and is likely limited for some but no one is turned down at an ER, ever.

BUT YOUR SKIRTING ROUND, DO poor PEOPLE DIE AS THEY CANT AFFORD MEDICAL CARE, THAT A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER NOTA LOAD OF UNCLE SAM IS GREAT WAFFLE

 

[jobo]

You're just arguing to argue. Take it up with the folks who put out the report.

HERE ARE THE PROJECTED DEATH TOLL PER AGE RANGE FOR THE UK, you notice the 50.60 age group is some what greater than the 20- 30 one, in fact the under 30 range has no death toll at all that shows up on the graph

 

[Tez3]

Where have you got the assumption that anyone in America cannot go to the doctor?
No one is going to be turned away.

From Americans actually.
Woman charged $35,000 for coronavirus testing and treatment

‘Why are we being charged?’ Surprise bills from coronavirus testing spark calls for government to cover all costs

Sick Americans face Kafkaesque nightmare in search of coronavirus testing

A US resident racked up a $3,200 hospital bill for suspected coronavirus treatment, and his insurance only covered part of it. Here's how the costs broke down.

54% of Americans worry about expenses tied to coronavirus—here's how to cut medical costs if you get sick

Testing may be free in some places but treatment is not. Coronavirus testing is free, but the hospital trip may set you back thousands. One graphic breaks down potential costs.

 

[jobo]

From Americans actually.
Woman charged $35,000 for coronavirus testing and treatment

‘Why are we being charged?’ Surprise bills from coronavirus testing spark calls for government to cover all costs

Sick Americans face Kafkaesque nightmare in search of coronavirus testing

A US resident racked up a $3,200 hospital bill for suspected coronavirus treatment, and his insurance only covered part of it. Here's how the costs broke down.

54% of Americans worry about expenses tied to coronavirus—here's how to cut medical costs if you get sick

Testing may be free in some places but treatment is not. Coronavirus testing is free, but the hospital trip may set you back thousands. One graphic breaks down potential costs.

jeez thats pretty appalling

 

[Jaeimseu]

BUT YOUR SKIRTING ROUND, DO poor PEOPLE DIE AS THEY CANT AFFORD MEDICAL CARE, THAT A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER NOTA LOAD OF UNCLE SAM IS GREAT WAFFLE

The answer is really yes and no. If you go to the emergency room, you won’t be denied treatment. However, some people don’t seek treatment at all, or until it’s too late, because they are afraid of the cost. It’s not only poor people who react this way. Medical costs in the US are crazy.


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[jobo]

The answer is really yes and no. If you go to the emergency room, you won’t be denied treatment. However, some people don’t seek treatment at all, or until it’s too late, because they are afraid of the cost. It’s not only poor people who react this way. Medical costs in the US are crazy.


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so yes poor people die as they cant afford medical care >?

where is the no element ?

 

[Jaeimseu]

so yes poor people die as they cant afford medical care >?

Indirectly, I suppose. And again, it’s not limited to “poor” people.


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[jobo]

Indirectly, I suppose. And again, it’s not limited to “poor” people.


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any one who cant afford medical care or adequate insurance is POOR, they are literally to poor to live if they get ill

there is nothing indirect about it. there is direct causation between someone income and if they die of a treatable illness or not

 

[Jaeimseu]

any one who cant afford medical care or adequate insurance is POOR, they are literally to poor to live if they get ill

there is nothing indirect about it. there is direct causation between someone income and if they die of a treatable illness or not

By that definition, most Americans are “poor.”


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[jobo]

By that definition, most Americans are “poor.”


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no only 70 million of them

 

[Jaeimseu]

no only 70 million of them

This is Martial Talk.


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[Headhunter]

My god what is the matter with people. We've got the world in chaos. Hundreds of thousands dying or sick and we've got grown adults on a martial art forum having a UK v USA argument....honestly people

 

[Gweilo]

This week have started doing classes via video link, with students, up to 25 at a time, but its purely about movement, keeping the body moving during the covid-19 restrictions, we start a warm up, then linking efficeint movement and breath, move on to core strength training, applying pressure/stress through breath patterns, to pillar exercise, push up, pull up, squat, leg raise, rope twist, culminating in cool down, then relaxation, through breathing in and applying tension to the body, and exhaling to relax. Wasnt sure we was going to get many, but we are up to 9x1hour sessions a week, and going to add another 3 classes next week. The only thing missing is the combat and pressure testing, by sparring, which is a thing that needs to be constant imho. But to keep students morale, and interest high, and keep them moving is paramount at present. It did take a few lessons to completely concerntrate on the class, rather than the individual students taste in decor

 

[Gerry Seymour]

and you need to take into account the american system, these younger folk could just be rich people who have booked themselves in to hospital

with medical care based on wealth rather than need its largely meaningless, to look at hospital admissions as a measure

There's not much incidence of rich folks just checking themselves into hospitals - that's really not much of a thing in the US. Most hospital admissions come from doctors' orders.

and where have you got THAT ASSUMPTION from, reading reports and sticking your own assumptions in is pointless, it just proves what ever your assumptions want it to prove

I'm not even sure what this is about, Jobo.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

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