Do you find some arts easier than others?

[Gerry Seymour]

I just know i wont do grappling well, apart from my weight anyway. and my TKD experience is fairly recent and all i know is stand up striking. I may eventually give something like BJJ a shot.

and for the second one, unless we go rough and tumble, probbly.

If you haven't done it, how do you know you won't be any good at it?

 

[Gerry Seymour]

You might be surprised. Some people think they wouldn't do any MA well, and get very pleasantly surprised. Not me, I suck at all of them, but some people.

It's okay, you make up for it with your imposing physical size.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

It's okay, you make up for it with your imposing physical size.

Oh definitely. Everyone who sees me instantly gets scared.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Oh definitely. Everyone who sees me instantly gets scared.

I was.

 

[Hanshi]

My primary art is Taekwondo, and if I may say so myself, I've excelled at it. I have naturally good body mechanics with my strikes, I learn the forms really fast, and the impractical fancy kicks come easy for me. When I was an orange belt, I watched a black belt trying to teach another black belt the 540 kick and I landed it on my 3rd or 4th try.

Then I started hapkido. As much as I buttered myself up with confidence (or maybe arrogance) in the last paragraph, I'm going to caveat with humility in this one. Hapkido is incredibly difficult for me. I've never been good at finding pressure points, half the time it takes me several tries to figure out how to lock the joints the right way, too often I try to use my strength instead of my technique. I find it significantly more difficult than Taekwondo.

The real funny thing is we can eliminate the instructor as the variable, because my Master is the same for both arts.

Does anyone else who's trained multiple arts experience this? Where you go into one art and it all just comes naturally to you, and then you go to another art and it's like you might as well be a baby giraffe trying to walk?

In my case, ABSOLUTELY! We are all by nature, individuals; and as such our body mechanics and innate abilities will vary wildly from person to person. This has also been the case with my students. Now, this does not mean it's always a waste of time to challenge oneself, on the contrary. I was very slow in progressing with certain arts; but accepting this, I managed to get quite skilled in spite of taking more time and work than some others.

 

[Drobison491]

What really got me was the short stint I did in Uechi Ryu. It just felt so unorthodox to me. In a good way, but not very natural. I spent a year in college attending their open floor night every week, and it was just so much different. I can’t explain it. The movements looked similar enough on the surface to my main style, but that was the end of it. I really liked it, but it wasn’t meant to be I guess.

I know I'm reviving a year old thread, but I just started training in Uechi and I feel the same. Coming from kempo the stances felt natural but the Sanchin stance and the arm positions will take some getting used to.

 

[john_newman]

On the other hand, early defense against basic grappling is easier than early defense against basic striking. So we end up needing to work much harder for competency in takedowns, throws, locks, etc.

Totally agree, but grappling is a must to take control on the opponent without harming opponent a lot with striking, and a combination of both is ideal.

 

[Acronym]

My primary art is Taekwondo, and if I may say so myself, I've excelled at it. I have naturally good body mechanics with my strikes, I learn the forms really fast, and the impractical fancy kicks come easy for me. When I was an orange belt, I watched a black belt trying to teach another black belt the 540 kick and I landed it on my 3rd or 4th try.

Then I started hapkido. As much as I buttered myself up with confidence (or maybe arrogance) in the last paragraph, I'm going to caveat with humility in this one. Hapkido is incredibly difficult for me. I've never been good at finding pressure points, half the time it takes me several tries to figure out how to lock the joints the right way, too often I try to use my strength instead of my technique. I find it significantly more difficult than Taekwondo.

The real funny thing is we can eliminate the instructor as the variable, because my Master is the same for both arts.

Does anyone else who's trained multiple arts experience this? Where you go into one art and it all just comes naturally to you, and then you go to another art and it's like you might as well be a baby giraffe trying to walk?

I would like to know how you weren't adept at an art (Hapkido) with choreographed, cooperative grappling techniques rather than full contact live resistance arts like BJJ, Judo etc? I mean since you can't win with no live resistance, how can you "fail"?

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I would like to know how you weren't adept at an art (Hapkido) with choreographed, cooperative grappling techniques rather than full contact live resistance arts like BJJ, Judo etc? I mean since you can't win with no live resistance, how can you "fail"?

In my experience, at least some Hapkido schools do practice with live resistance at some level.

 

[Flying Crane]

I would like to know how you weren't adept at an art (Hapkido) with choreographed, cooperative grappling techniques rather than full contact live resistance arts like BJJ, Judo etc? I mean since you can't win with no live resistance, how can you "fail"?

You are an expert on Hapkido too?

We are in the presence of a National Treasure!!

 

[Headhunter]

You are an expert on Hapkido too?

We are in the presence of a National Treasure!!

Lol this guy knows absolutely everything about every style on earth. He’s the new master ken He has now promoted himself to 15th dan

 

[Headhunter]

In my experience, at least some Hapkido schools do practice with live resistance at some level.

Don’t even bother with this guy didn’t you know....he’s an expert at everything and knows everything about every style in existence

 

[Flying Crane]

Lol this guy knows absolutely everything about every style on earth. He’s the new master ken He has now promoted himself to 15th dan

We do seem to attract them to the forums here. He’s not the first, won’t be the last.

 

[Headhunter]

We do seem to attract them to the forums here. He’s not the first, won’t be the last.

It’s a lot easier to act like an expert behind a keyboard than it is in person

 

[Acronym]

In my experience, at least some Hapkido schools do practice with live resistance at some level.

So they break each others wrists then? Because that's the argument Aikido masters give for not free sparring.

 

[Flying Crane]

So they break each others wrists then? Because that's the argument Aikido masters give for not free sparring.

I’ve never heard one say that. I’ve had the privilege of meeting a couple of them in previous years.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

So they break each others wrists then? Because that's the argument Aikido masters give for not free sparring.

There's a lot of range between not free sparring at all and free sparring including the techniques that can't be predictably controlled to avoid injury. But go ahead and charge ahead with posts that support the point you're trying to make. Don't worry about facts.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

To learn the long fist system, you will need to learn

- 10 open hand forms, and
- 8 weapon forms.

To learn the Chinese wrestling system, you will need to learn about

- 230 different throws.

So some MA systems are harder to learn than others.

 

[Acronym]

There's a lot of range between not free sparring at all and free sparring including the techniques that can't be predictably controlled to avoid injury. But go ahead and charge ahead with posts that support the point you're trying to make. Don't worry about facts.

Oh, you meant live resistance as a metaphor.. I somehow knew that before replying. Way ahead of you bud.

 

[Acronym]

I would like to hear from TS what part of the cooperation he struggled with? break falls? Timing the choreography with the partner?

I'm intrigued.