Deadly Armbar Escape

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  1. kuniggety

    kuniggety 2nd Black Belt

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    I wonder when Master Ken will be awarded his black belt in BJJ.

    Restomp the groin!
     
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    I still prefer the foolproof double-tap escape. That escape never fails as long as you shut the ref up fast enough.
     
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    Awesome video.
     
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    It looks like it could work. I hope to see it in the next BJJ lab post by tony.
     
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    kuniggety 2nd Black Belt

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    I love that one too.
     
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    Actually it works if the armbar is not perfectly tight and the escape better performed than that. I hope to see a proper example here. At least, it could become a bit more instructional... :)
     
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    To be complete, he'll have to test that re-stomping, as well.
     
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    Yeah, Matt Page (Master Ken) is a real martial artist, so occasionally he slips a bit of real technique in before he starts the silly stuff. In this case I can tell that he understands the arm bar better than a lot of the guys trying to seriously show "anti-grappling" on YouTube.
     
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    Overall, I was surprised that he had most of the details right. Only thing that made me cringe was how the guy held the wrists so far away from his body.
     
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    Master Ken pulls the elbow, but not the shoulder. Doesn't it bother you (BJJ guys)?
    If he pulls the shoulder (shoulder girdle) or by rotating his legs/hip first, the elbow can slide easier, even when the arm is already extended. Edit: add elbow rotation.
     
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    Well, this is Master Ken, so dissecting his technique...
     
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    kuniggety 2nd Black Belt

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    The big thing is closing the open elbow, fundamental in defense to armbar, kimura, Americana, etc. Pulling back the shoulder helps but if they're loose enough to suck in the elbow alone, then the job is done. I'd still suck in the shoulder too as that starts rotating your body towards them to defend more, counterattack.
     
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    I honestly didn't look at his escape critically at all. The entire thing was silly. The only thing that really stood out to me was the way the guy was holding the wrist with his hands. And just to be clear, it's not "wrong" to hold the wrists, although that's not how I tend to do it. But to have them so far from your body is just sloppy. If you have the arm connected to your chest all the way through the technique, it's just tighter and more difficult to defend. It also helps you engage your core against the strength of the other guy's arm, instead of you trying to pull with your arms against his.

    Getting the elbow to the mat is step one, and there are a few good ways to do it. but the key is to get that elbow joint below the hip.
     
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    Critiquing Master Ken? Perhaps jealous of the Rooster beak technique? (truth be told, I was, too)
    While many have multiple belts from different styles, who here can wear two belts simultaneously with such aplomb?
     
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    Well my question is.....Do BJJ guys always carry salt with them when they fight?
     
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    It's only courteous... You really expect someone to chow down on an unseasoned limb? Barbarian...
     
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