Coronavirus/Covid 19

[JR 137]

All nonessential staff at my work has been ordered to work from home. We are a drug manufacturer, and the priority is to protect and isolate as much as possible the people who are in direct contact with the drugs and those who closest support them. Anyone who feels sick in any way is required to report it to powers that be and stay home until further notice. Anyone who’s out due to illness will be paid fully without being charged any sick time.

I’m on the manufacturing floor and therefore essential. Great thing is there’s plenty of overtime to be had (we’re all hourly).

 

[JR 137]

My daughters’ school has officially closed. And their basketball season has been suspended for 3 weeks I bet it’ll end up being canceled.

 

[dvcochran]

the general ethos of social health care, is that the better off pay more to allow the treatment of the less well off an an equal basis

this equality is the key feature

the nature of this equality is if you turn up offering to pay cash to get to the front of the queue , then your told to wait your turn, your no more entitled to not bleed to death or retain all your digits than anyone else of a lesser income, particularly as the other people in the queue had in fact contribute to the system (and would understandably get quite cross if being a rich american was given more of a life value than theirs), or at least had the foresight to turn up with the correct documentation, i wouldn't dream of going abroad let alone america with out the correct docs

as you didnt infact bleed to death one assumes at some point you did reach the front of the queue ?

I was able to walk right up to the counter. No waiting there. Then everything ground to a halt because I did not have the health credit card.
I was addressed Only after I passed out in the floor. As I remember the ER was not full at all. I think it was more that the hospital was grossly understaffed. There was no 'queue' , I assume aside from whoever was already in a triage room.

As far as the 'rich American' stab, why/how do you think anyone had a clue what my financial status was? It was not until After everything ground to a halt because I did not have the health credit card that we offered to pay cash. It wasn't like I stood in a line waiting for service. We were able to walk right up to the counter where we were told I would be seen right away. Then had to wait until I passed out.
Your narrative is Way off.

 

[dvcochran]

Actually it's not socialism. One bad experience , which frankly you can have absolutely anywhere in the world, doesn't mean a countries systems is wrong or doesn't work. There is a top private hospital here in the UK, very expensive, very exclusive where several people reported bad experiences. I have many Canadian friends who say their system works, it's not perfect of course no ones is, but it works and people don't die because they can't afford treatment.
Blaming 'socialism' for the fact that one hospital is rubbish and you not being Canadian so not experienced in their medical health care system is extreme. You need to research properly the healthcare system in a non partisan way rather than base it on one visit to one hospital in one place. Much of what is written about other countries healthcare systems is written by people who either have an axe to grind ie to prove it's the best or the worst.
Ranked in order of quality the UK is 18th, Canada 30th and the USA 38th.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/

I can appreciate that.
To be fair, my opinions about socialism reach far past one visit to a Canadian hospital.

 

[Flying Crane]

Several school districts in my area have closed. More will follow suit sooner than later, like within the next 24 hours. Closed for a minimum of next week. I’m quite sure it’ll go longer than that.

According to my wife who teaches at a public school, there was a teleconference with superintendents from around the area and the decision was a group decision. My daughters’ school hasn’t announced anything yet, but my wife’s has. I can foresee my daughters’ school staying open with literally every district that borders it closing. If not for anything else, it’ll close due to public pressure.

But who’s supposed to watch the kids? Now you’re going to lose a big part of the workforce because someone needs to watch the kids. Luckily my wife’s a teacher and is home virtually whenever my kids are.

I just got the text message, my son’s school is closing for at least three weeks. Well, with my wife suddenly out of work, I guess we can deal with it. Of course paying the bills is still an unknown.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

All nonessential staff at my work has been ordered to work from home. We are a drug manufacturer, and the priority is to protect and isolate as much as possible the people who are in direct contact with the drugs and those who closest support them. Anyone who feels sick in any way is required to report it to powers that be and stay home until further notice. Anyone who’s out due to illness will be paid fully without being charged any sick time.

I’m on the manufacturing floor and therefore essential. Great thing is there’s plenty of overtime to be had (we’re all hourly).

That's cool. The hospital that I work at forced one of the nurses to go home yesterday for sneezing a bit, and she had to use her own sick time for it.

 

[Buka]

We are living in interesting times.

 

[jobo]

That is hugely over stated media hype. Insurance availability is not nearly as bad as it is made out to be. More the spin doctors hard at work. It doesn't take a genius to set down and figure out how much more they would pay in added taxes for social healthcare.
We do have a Lot of people wanting something for nothing however.
As far as the quality of healthcare, I will still take the US healthcare over anywhere else.

ive just googled it, over 70 million, have either no or inadequate insurance and that with out all the undocumented, so 100.000000 or so

so obviously not much of an issue at all

 

[jobo]

I was able to walk right up to the counter. No waiting there. Then everything ground to a halt because I did not have the health credit card.
I was addressed Only after I passed out in the floor. As I remember the ER was not full at all. I think it was more that the hospital was grossly understaffed. There was no 'queue' , I assume aside from whoever was already in a triage room.

As far as the 'rich American' stab, why/how do you think anyone had a clue what my financial status was? It was not until After everything ground to a halt because I did not have the health credit card that we offered to pay cash. It wasn't like I stood in a line waiting for service. We were able to walk right up to the counter where we were told I would be seen right away. Then had to wait until I passed out.
Your narrative is Way off.

it cant have been understaffed or they would have been a big queue

 

[dvcochran]

it cant have been understaffed or they would have been a big queue

Correct me if I am wrong but I do not remember you being there.
Unless you were the incoherent British guy.

 

[dvcochran]

ive just googled it, over 70 million, have either no or inadequate insurance and that with out all the undocumented, so 100.000000 or so

so obviously not much of an issue at all

You Googled it so it must be true.

 

[JR 137]

That's cool. The hospital that I work at forced one of the nurses to go home yesterday for sneezing a bit, and she had to use her own sick time for it.

The company I work for really takes great care of us. I can’t say enough good things about it. They’re not perfect, but they’re as close as I’ve ever worked for and don’t know anyone who gets better taken care of overall.

 

[JR 137]

Is there a diarrhea pandemic that no one’s openly discussing going on alongside the Coronavirus pandemic?

If not, why the hell are people buying up all the toilet paper? Every damn store is sold out. After about 3 rolls, I’m going to have to either hold it until I get to work or steal it from a public bathroom like McDonald’s. F’ing animals!

 

[Xue Sheng]

I've been asking folks all day; how you handling the "Pandemic Panic of 2020"

 

[Xue Sheng]

Is there a diarrhea pandemic that no one’s openly discussing going on alongside the Coronavirus pandemic?

If not, why the hell are people buying up all the toilet paper? Every damn store is sold out. After about 3 rolls, I’m going to have to either hold it until I get to work or steal it from a public bathroom like McDonald’s. F’ing animals!

Toilet paper, paper towels, kleenex, rubbing alcohol, cotton balls, most cleaning products, bleach all gone. I was in a store today picking up a prescription and I was looking around.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Yeah I know, I guess it is a case of doing someone that looks like it could help... who knows. But that's going to seriously impact some big events. What about work buildings that hold more than 500 people? What proximity do the people have to be in?

It is an interesting thought though... letting 'worst case scenario' dictate how life is to be led... I mean I understand how rapidly it can spread, but to approach life from that perspective would be crippling if you applied it to everything you do.... you wouldn't even cross the road! Just a thought

The "greater than 500" is just using some reasonable cutoff to make the decision easy, rather than a case-by-case decision - which would be more appropriate to each situation, but unreasonably difficult to implement. The idea is simply to reduce the mass transfer. If I give it to 3 relatives, that's one thing. They likely associate with some of the same folks I do, so there's a bit of self-limiting impact. If I pass it along to the 12 people nearest me at a concert, each pair (assuming couples and such) may have a drastically different social circle, spreading the contagion much faster across the population.

It's not a great measure, but it's a relatively easy one with some predictable results.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Is there a diarrhea pandemic that no one’s openly discussing going on alongside the Coronavirus pandemic?

If not, why the hell are people buying up all the toilet paper? Every damn store is sold out. After about 3 rolls, I’m going to have to either hold it until I get to work or steal it from a public bathroom like McDonald’s. F’ing animals!

I stopped by a drug store this afternoon to pick up some travel supplies and see if they happened to have any small bottles of hand sanitizer (to keep one in my car when I'm driving for Lyft and can't wash). Hand sanitizer was entirely gone, as were all the various rubbing alcohols and anything remotely similar. And the toilet paper aisle looked like a damned war zone. Animals, indeed.

 

[skribs]

Well, my Master has suspended some of our special classes for the next month and a half. In part because I'm sick today. I don't think it's COVID-19 at this point, maybe allergies or a cold. If I get a fever I'll definitely call my doctor.

Our regular classes are still on, but our special classes are on break. One of those is Hapkido, which is probably a good thing since Hapkido is basically aggressive handshakes.

 

[_Simon_]

Is there a diarrhea pandemic that no one’s openly discussing going on alongside the Coronavirus pandemic?

If not, why the hell are people buying up all the toilet paper? Every damn store is sold out. After about 3 rolls, I’m going to have to either hold it until I get to work or steal it from a public bathroom like McDonald’s. F’ing animals!

Ahhh so u guys have been struck with the "toilet-paper fever" too... blame us Aussies for starting that odd trend XD

 

[_Simon_]

The "greater than 500" is just using some reasonable cutoff to make the decision easy, rather than a case-by-case decision - which would be more appropriate to each situation, but unreasonably difficult to implement. The idea is simply to reduce the mass transfer. If I give it to 3 relatives, that's one thing. They likely associate with some of the same folks I do, so there's a bit of self-limiting impact. If I pass it along to the 12 people nearest me at a concert, each pair (assuming couples and such) may have a drastically different social circle, spreading the contagion much faster across the population.

It's not a great measure, but it's a relatively easy one with some predictable results.

Yeah true, makes sense in that regard hey.. I just wonder how far this will be taken, AND if it is indeed a truly necessary measure yet. I don't know if it's something that spreads more rapidly than any other virus. Just keep hearing very mixed stuff about it in terms of numbers, percentages, rate of increase, whether it's nothing at all to worry about vs. it being at serious level etc..