Bj penn UFC 232 (spoilers obviously)

Discussion in 'MMA' started by Headhunter, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. Steve

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    A lot of people think immigrants from Guatemala are literally attempting to invade the USA. Doesn’t make it true. This place has always trended to mob mentality. I think it’s human nature.
     
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    Guatemala? That’s just ridiculous. Anyone with any common sense knows the Mexicans are literally trying to invade. :)
     
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    He's only running out the clock because Maynard refuses to engage him while he's on his back. According to @Headhunter laying on your back during a MMA fight is a terrible strategy, so Maynard (a D1 NCAA wrestler) should have been easily capable of capitalizing on it.

    So your argument is that Maynard (an accomplished wrestler) can do while Ryan Hall is lying on his back?

    Well the problem is that Hall also delivered far more strikes than Maynard did as well, so the latter failed in both departments. He was far too timid, and if you watch the full fight, the commentators say consistently that Maynard needs to stop holding back and just go for it. The problem is that Hall was completely in Maynard's head to the point that Maynard was afraid to go to the ground and afraid to push too much with his striking because he feared getting taken down.
     
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    Incorrect, he landed enough strikes for points then flopped when Maynard pushed forward or checked/grabbed his kicks. The kicking strategy was starting to fail, thus he flopped for that was the only other tactic he could utilize.

    Please elaborate

    It's easy to land kicks then runaway or flop after your opponent starts to check them.

    I'm not overly concerned with what the commentators said, a picture(in this case a video) is worth a thousand words.
     
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    How did the kicking strategy fail if Hall won the match?


    Sorry, typo on my part; Are you saying that there was nothing Maynard could do when Hall flopped on his back except run away?

    You think it's easy to intimidate a professional fighter to the point where he won't fight you while you're on your back? Keep in mind, this professional fighter has a D1 NCAA wrestling background.


    Check out Maynard's face vs Hall's face after the fight.
     
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    Hello again, it's been a busy week
    Hall has sloppy and lazy kicks, thus Maynard was able to avoid and grab some of them. Hall knows that he can always flop if his kicks fail, that's what causes him to not develop other aspects of his game.

    Hall was the one fleeing from engagement, hence he flopped when Maynard pressed in.

    If anyone was intimidated it was Hall, not Maynard. Hall literally turned his back and sprinted away from Maynard.

    If the Ref called Hall on his flopping the outcome would have been different. Given that he didn't, Hall hid in his safe space until he got enough points for the round.
     

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