Asking To Test

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  1. PhotonGuy

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    You're right, it is semantics. Gpseymour said it best in post #173. My question would be, would it be frowned on to ask such a question to your instructor and of so, why?
     
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    That depends on how long you want it to take you. For the time frame that you mention, 10-30 years, might be an appropriate time frame when we're talking about very high dan ranks. When you get to that level it can take 10-30 years to go up a single rank, but that would be for ranks such as 5th dan and above. For lower ranks, 10-30 years to get promoted a single rank is a bit much. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Of course it would be about me and how I need to improve. I wouldn't expect the instructor or the school or curriculum to change to meet my expectations, its the other way around. I would never want an instructor to lower their standards to my current level, that would be a very bad instructor. I would want to be able to raise my current level to meet my instructor's standards and if necessary that might involve getting pointers from my instructor.
     
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    I've done that before and from my experience its frowned upon in this forum.
     
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    If you think that will work, go for it. From my experience, it works for me.
     
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    If it's an old discussion that's different than re-opening a thread that's still active.

    So because life's short, bad manners are okay? Because other people do it, that makes it okay?

    My goodness, it's teenager attitudes all around on this forum today.
     
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    It’s not bad manners. Let it go.
     
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    You're flat out wrong here. I've never been on a forum where it's good manners.
     
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    Bad manners is attempting to dictate to other members what discussions they are allowed to have. These old threads are not closed nor locked. They are open to new posts. Anyone can add to them. If you don’t want to play, then don’t. Don’t read them, don’t post to them.

    But go ahead and try to stop me. Just try. :cool:
     
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    So when someone says it's bad manners to do something, and you do it to them out of spite, you don't see how that's not bad manners?

    I take back what I said about acting like a teenager. Now you're just acting like a 2-year-old.
     
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    For me, if you just walked up cold and asked "why haven't I tested" that would be bad form. There is usually at least a loose format of what is required for each promotion. If you feel certain you can check all the boxes and can respectfully argue your case then have a talk with your instructor. If they are unapproachable that may be difficult.
    You should walk away with either an answer in the affirmative or a good explanation of why not and what you need to work on.
    Either way, if done properly, it will be a good experience regardless of the answer. There is an emotional/maturation component at work here.
     
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    You cannot say that anymore.
     
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    When you fat finger type like I do, the less typing required the better.:cool:
     
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    Just because people do it, doesn't mean it's not bad manners. If this truly is the case, I'll probably be done here. I've been on Martial Talk because I considered it the more civilized of the Martial Arts forums. Based on this discussion here, and several others I've had recently, I'm starting to think of this site as being just as toxic as the others I've been avoiding.
     
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    I’m doing it because it is not bad manners and it is perfectly ok to do it. That you think it’s bad manners is your problem, not mine.

    You are getting all worked up over this. Really, it doesn’t matter. Let it go. Look the other way, if it bothers you.
     
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    If you tell me something bothers you, and I do it anyway, that's an aggressive move. You and I had a difference of opinion. That's one thing. That you then did that thing to me, makes it a personal attack.

    Whether or not you think it's bad manners is irrelevant at that point. You did it to my post specifically out of spite. That is definitely bad manners. Whether or not you think the act itself was bad form, the fact you know I find it offensive and did it to me anyway, is offensive. It's the equivalent of sticking your tongue out at me because "haha look what I can do."

    It was the kind of thing I see in our 4 and 5 year old white belts. It's not the kind of thing I'd expect a seasoned martial artist to do.
     
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    Easy for you to say. I'm a slow learner.
     
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    Please explain to us why doing a copy/paste and expounding on it to stimulate more conversation is bad manners?
    We are all here for largely the same reasons. It is a Martial themed forum. If somebody steps on your toes maybe they need stepping on. It is never a personal attack but it may help you grow and expand your horizons. How is that bad?
     
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    That's not what we're even discussing.

    We're discussing taking a thread where the conversation has died, and posting in the thread to bring it back to life.
     
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    Ok, what is wrong with that? If you posted something last year and recall that it is relevant to a current post why not reuse your previous argument?
    I have no clue what the rub is here. I just hate to see anyone leave the forum for petty reasons.
     

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