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Rob_Broad
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Originally posted by Goldendragon7
Because no knowlege is useless. There is something useful in every technique. Like I have heard before every technique has merit.
Because no knowlege is useless. There is something useful in every technique. Like I have heard before every technique has merit.
Mod note: This is a thinned down copy of a previous thread.
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donald
Black Belt
The side kick you mentioned. Is it a thrust, or snap? Do you rechamber, and plant into the r. neutral, or do you fall into it after the kick? Does'nt the technique finish with a r. back knuckle following the spinning back kick?
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donald
Black Belt
Jason,
Yes sir it do.... I think I may have glommed the b.f. from another tech.. Its been awhile since I've checked the manual.
Grasi,
Donaldo :shrug:
Yes sir it do.... I think I may have glommed the b.f. from another tech.. Its been awhile since I've checked the manual.
Grasi,
Donaldo :shrug:
Klondike93
Master Black Belt
That's how I was taught to do it except for the spin kick at the end. There is no backfist that I know of in it as well.
The side kick is a thrust kick and Jason hit it with opening up the centerline. By buckiling the left knee, you cancel the depth zone and open up the center for the front kick. I was taught when I put the foot down after the side kick to put it down in modified twist stance putting the left front kick online to the target.
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The side kick is a thrust kick and Jason hit it with opening up the centerline. By buckiling the left knee, you cancel the depth zone and open up the center for the front kick. I was taught when I put the foot down after the side kick to put it down in modified twist stance putting the left front kick online to the target.
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Klondike93
Master Black Belt
Yes, that's the idea
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Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
Ok...... but here is the original version......
Aggressive Twins (two-hand push)
a. With your feet together step back with your
left foot into a right neutral bow as you
execute a right inward strike to both arms of
opponent with your left hand covering.
b. From your right neutral bow immediately
deliver a right knife-edge kick horizontally
across opponent's left shin.
c. Plant your right foot back to its original
position (last position) and deliver a left
ball kick to opponents sternum.
d. Plant your left kicking foot toward 1 o'clock
into a left neutral bow.
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That's the original........
Aggressive Twins (two-hand push)
a. With your feet together step back with your
left foot into a right neutral bow as you
execute a right inward strike to both arms of
opponent with your left hand covering.
b. From your right neutral bow immediately
deliver a right knife-edge kick horizontally
across opponent's left shin.
c. Plant your right foot back to its original
position (last position) and deliver a left
ball kick to opponents sternum.
d. Plant your left kicking foot toward 1 o'clock
into a left neutral bow.
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That's the original........
kenpo3631
Black Belt
For all you bible worshipin' folk out there doesn't GD sound like the Pharoh Ramses....LOL:rofl:
Just cause it is written that way don't make it right. Some techniques were modified later on "AFTER" the manuals were written to make the techniques work.
However in this case GD is correct
But....the spinning back kick was added for a few reasons.
1. As a kicking exercise, 2. Because the back kick flows with the kicking sequence.
If you look at it you might say (if you add the spinning back kick) that it is "Encounter with Danger" on the opposite side standing up. (Just look at it)
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Just cause it is written that way don't make it right. Some techniques were modified later on "AFTER" the manuals were written to make the techniques work.
However in this case GD is correct
But....the spinning back kick was added for a few reasons.
1. As a kicking exercise, 2. Because the back kick flows with the kicking sequence.
If you look at it you might say (if you add the spinning back kick) that it is "Encounter with Danger" on the opposite side standing up.
(Just look at it):asian:
I was kind of hoping to revisit the technique of the week thing that was discussed a while ago. Delayed Sword was already talked about in another thread. My next technique in line is Aggressive Twins some of you may have Alternating Maces next but we'll put that on next week. I don't have a list of techniques on my computer to randomly post so I'll type this off of the top of my head and probably a little short on description.
AGGRESSIVE TWINS (front two hand direct push)
1. While standing naturally step back with your left foot simultaneously executing a right inward block on the outside of opponents left arm.
2. Immediately execute a right sidekick to the attackers left knee to buckle and (open the door) expose their centerline.
3. Now in a right neutral bow deliver a left front kick to opponents sternum or solar plexus to drive the attacker backwards.
4. Without hesitation execute a right spinning back kick to any available target on the opponents centerline. Plant the right foot forward toward 12 oclock then front crossover cover out towards 6 oclock.
This is my interpretation of Aggressive Twins. Please feel free to correct anything on my movement list. Also Let's hear any likes or dislikes about this techniques.
Thanks,
Jason Farnsworth
AGGRESSIVE TWINS (front two hand direct push)
1. While standing naturally step back with your left foot simultaneously executing a right inward block on the outside of opponents left arm.
2. Immediately execute a right sidekick to the attackers left knee to buckle and (open the door) expose their centerline.
3. Now in a right neutral bow deliver a left front kick to opponents sternum or solar plexus to drive the attacker backwards.
4. Without hesitation execute a right spinning back kick to any available target on the opponents centerline. Plant the right foot forward toward 12 oclock then front crossover cover out towards 6 oclock.
This is my interpretation of Aggressive Twins. Please feel free to correct anything on my movement list. Also Let's hear any likes or dislikes about this techniques.
Thanks,
Jason Farnsworth
Mr. Jackson,
I believe your probably right. Unfotunately I learned this technique with the 3 kicks. The reason I was told for the third kick was after the left front kick you are standing left side forward. Since almost everyone is right side dominant hence the reason for the "suffix". The second reason I was given was because the spin back kick is a hard kick to perform well this gives people extra practice on this kick. You know now that I think about it I believe our class puts in the spin kick at orange belt. This is after the student has added to some more basics. I'd have to go back and ask my instructor that question. I've always been able to perform the kick so I just put it on the end. Thanks for the idea.
Jason Farnsworth
I believe your probably right. Unfotunately I learned this technique with the 3 kicks. The reason I was told for the third kick was after the left front kick you are standing left side forward. Since almost everyone is right side dominant hence the reason for the "suffix". The second reason I was given was because the spin back kick is a hard kick to perform well this gives people extra practice on this kick. You know now that I think about it I believe our class puts in the spin kick at orange belt. This is after the student has added to some more basics. I'd have to go back and ask my instructor that question. I've always been able to perform the kick so I just put it on the end. Thanks for the idea.
Jason Farnsworth
Donald,
I believe it's a thrust kick. I might be wrong but if you use a snap kick you might not get the same effect. The idea is to open the centerline up. Opposite to Attacking Mace. Attacking Mace open the opponent with the right punch, Aggressive Twins opens them up with the right kick. What you can do with the hands you can do with the feet. Both use opposite sides of the body to open the attackers centerline. Anyway back to the question I usually kick and plant down to set up for the left front kick. As far as the back knuckle I don't know about that we don't use that in this technique. Intellectual Departure uses a back knuckle after right back kick. Does that answer your question?
Jason Farnsworth
I believe it's a thrust kick. I might be wrong but if you use a snap kick you might not get the same effect. The idea is to open the centerline up. Opposite to Attacking Mace. Attacking Mace open the opponent with the right punch, Aggressive Twins opens them up with the right kick. What you can do with the hands you can do with the feet. Both use opposite sides of the body to open the attackers centerline. Anyway back to the question I usually kick and plant down to set up for the left front kick. As far as the back knuckle I don't know about that we don't use that in this technique. Intellectual Departure uses a back knuckle after right back kick. Does that answer your question?
Jason Farnsworth
Are saying into a right rotating twist stance. Modified being not totally twisting all of the way around towards your right side. I can understand that.
Jason Farnsworth
Jason Farnsworth
Mr. C. this is in my curriculum as well as Spreading Branch, and Intellectual Departure. I don't know why the 3 were replaced.
Jason Farnsworth
Jason Farnsworth
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brianhunter
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Tom Kelly teaches this technique in his purple belt requirements, he hasnt dropped it
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C.E.Jackson
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I don't believe the original version has a third kick? I could be wrong, but I don't teach the third kick.
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headkick
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for those kicks, depending on which foot the attacker has forward. If the right foot is forward, snap, ball, spin back knuckle. If the left is forward, snap, spin, ball. Has to do with the attackers potential to block or deflect the spinning heel. Learned that on from Mr. Sepulveda. We teach this early on in the system now, so it makes sense with kicking set. You learn this kick in kicking set, then never really use it. Category completion.
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