A serious question to adept martial artists about physical fitness...

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Talk' started by Zombocalypse, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. jobo

    jobo Senior Master

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2017
    Messages:
    2,587
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    158
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    this is exactly what you said, you didn't say it would only help build speed, or that additional training is required.

    you said heavy weights WILL increase speed, period
     
  2. Finlay

    Finlay Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2016
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    33
    Location:
    Jakarta
    Yup OK
     
  3. SOD-WC

    SOD-WC Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2016
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    23
    Location:
    Australia
  4. JR 137

    JR 137 Senior Master

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2015
    Messages:
    2,150
    Likes Received:
    1,027
    Trophy Points:
    353
    Location:
    In the dojo
  5. jobo

    jobo Senior Master

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2017
    Messages:
    2,587
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    158
    Location:
    Manchester UK
    sort of, tendon stiffness transfers the strengh from the muscle to the joint, if the tendon stretches then some of that strengh is lost,if it has greater stiffness less is lost.

    this topic has swooped of course to the question of if isometrics have more benefit than plyometric and the answer is maybe.
    but, it depends what you mean by plylometric there are at least two accepted defintions out there and the study doesnt indecate if its one, the other or both its refering to.

    isometrics were all the rage in the 50,60 and 70s. Then science said they didn't work and they were forgotten, now science seems to have rediscovered them.

    all very interesting but not at all on the topic of if heavy lifting of a bench press results in a major increase in hand speed or not
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Headhunter

    Headhunter Master of Arts

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,659
    Likes Received:
    670
    Trophy Points:
    218
    I've never used weights. Way to much risk of injury and causing permanent damage. Look what happened to bruce lee he suffered with severe back pain for the rest of his life.

    What I've been lately to build my strength up for Jiu Jitsu is simply press ups but slow ones where I hold myself down for a few seconds before pushing myself back up and do about 10-15 at a time. It's only been about 2 weeks and already I feel stronger both just on the arms and on the mat.
     
  7. Zombocalypse

    Zombocalypse Green Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2017
    Messages:
    159
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Believe me when I tell you that lifting weights (done properly) is infinitely safer than 90% of physical sports out there. Plus, lifting weights actually builds an injury-resistant body.
     
  8. Headhunter

    Headhunter Master of Arts

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,659
    Likes Received:
    670
    Trophy Points:
    218
    Well I've done well enough without them all my life so I'll be fine
     
  9. gpseymour

    gpseymour Sr. Grandmaster

    Top Poster Of Month

    • Supporting Member
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2012
    Messages:
    10,577
    Likes Received:
    3,027
    Trophy Points:
    448
    Location:
    Hendersonville, NC
    The "done properly" part is what's problematic. Most folks won't have a trainer handy to check their form on every exercise and stop them from exposing joints badly, etc.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1

Share This Page