Dim mak of death - pressure points when fighting

[howard]

Hi Dean, you're welcome. Hope that info helped.

Since you mention physical therapy, I'll tell you this... about the only people around who successfully diagnose and treat myofascial trigger points are well-informed chiropractors like mine, and massage therapists. It's interesting that I've never heard of anybody being referred to a physical therapist for treatment of trigger points, since I can't think of any reason why a qualified PT would not be able to treat them with massage.

Regarding using PPTs in fighting, in our style of Hapkido, we use them quite a bit, but not in a "dim mak" sense. We typically attack them by digging into them with our fingertips. Most of the ones we use are nerve points, I think, although some are exactly where certain important PPTs are (like GB21, Stomach 9 and Colon 8 - 10). We also attack lots of them on the face.

Our approach to PPTs is pretty down-to-earth. We're not looking for knockouts, we're aiming to cause a kind of "shudder" in the attacker that will render him vulnerable for a fraction of a second. That fraction of a second is supposed to give us the window we need to execute a defensive technique.

[runnerninja]

When talking about pressure points everybody seems to give them a number/letter or both(e.g. like GB21, Stomach 9 and Colon 8 - 10). Is there any website which will show where each pressure point is and what the code is? It would really help me to keep up with some of the posts on these boards.

[thetruth]

Originally Posted by runnerninja

When talking about pressure points everybody seems to give them a number/letter or both(e.g. like GB21, Stomach 9 and Colon 8 - 10). Is there any website which will show where each pressure point is and what the code is? It would really help me to keep up with some of the posts on these boards.

Go to www.kyusho.com and you will find such info there. Their forum will be informative for you too

Cheers
Sam

[loyalonehk]

Originally Posted by thetruth

Go to www.kyusho.com and you will find such info there. Their forum will be informative for you too

Cheers
Sam

Another favorite of mine is: www.yinyanghouse.com

Cheers
Dean

[chinto]

Originally Posted by loyalonehk

Another favorite of mine is: www.yinyanghouse.com

Cheers
Dean

please remember that some points will very from person to person and some will be in the same place with in a very very small variation. Leathal points are of course something that do not variate... but others may...

[thetruth]

Originally Posted by chinto

please remember that some points will very from person to person and some will be in the same place with in a very very small variation. Leathal points are of course something that do not variate... but others may...

I'm sure the people from the above mentioned sites will be able to answer all of the questions you have.

Cheers
Sam

[DavidCC]

Originally Posted by loyalonehk

Another favorite of mine is: www.yinyanghouse.com

Cheers
Dean

Good diagrams here too..

http://www.acuxo.com/meridianPicture...meridian=Heart

[chinto]

Originally Posted by thetruth

I'm sure the people from the above mentioned sites will be able to answer all of the questions you have.

Cheers
Sam

actualy it was not a question, but a statement of fact. some of the pressure points do have variations of some distance from person to person. the leathal points are of course always in the same place. but there could be an inch or more variation on some people on some of the others.

[DavidCC]

Originally Posted by chinto

actualy it was not a question, but a statement of fact. some of the pressure points do have variations of some distance from person to person. the leathal points are of course always in the same place. but there could be an inch or more variation on some people on some of the others.

The way I am taught, the points are located using not absolute measurements, but are relative to the body itself... So your 5th intercostal space might be an inch higher or lower than mine, but relative to my ribs it is the "same place".

[chinto]

Originally Posted by DavidCC

The way I am taught, the points are located using not absolute measurements, but are relative to the body itself... So your 5th intercostal space might be an inch higher or lower than mine, but relative to my ribs it is the "same place".

yep it should be pretty much the same place. but nurve bundles vary much more then bones .... personaly I tend to use the ones that are duel in that there are bones and organs in the same place for meany things. But like chokeing for instance some people are more imune from some of the lesser things then others. just as some people are a lot harder to choke .. becouse the arterys in the neck are deeper or the musculiture is more developed.

[thetruth]

Originally Posted by chinto

actualy it was not a question, but a statement of fact. some of the pressure points do have variations of some distance from person to person. the leathal points are of course always in the same place. but there could be an inch or more variation on some people on some of the others.

I wasn't referring to your statement but the fact that you mentioned this as advice to zero when the people from the mentioned sites will be able to assist them with their questions involving pp and their locations/variations etc. I didn't know why you bought your point up.

Cheers
Sam

[chinto]

Originally Posted by thetruth

I wasn't referring to your statement but the fact that you mentioned this as advice to zero when the people from the mentioned sites will be able to assist them with their questions involving pp and their locations/variations etc. I didn't know why you bought your point up.

Cheers
Sam

I have heard people assert that they are always in the same place and work exaclty the same way ... So I was makeing the point that that is a guide and not an absolute.