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Old 01-03-2008, 02:19 PM
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Re: Learn 7-17x faster with private lessons?

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The fastest blocks won't stop a solid punch because there's no structure behind it and the fastest punches won't do much damage for the same reason.
I know this is not the topic being discussed, but the above is wrong. It is not possible to apply full power at less than full speed. It is possible, however, to go full speed with no power.

A person may be able to apply more power by slowing down, because that person has not learned to integrate the proper end point timing at higher speeds, but full power requires full speed.

I have run across many people who fit into the above statement. But it is not that the block is too fast, or the punch is too fast, it is "operator error."
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Re: Learn 7-17x faster with private lessons?

From a Monty Python routine about the Welsh Martial Art of Llap-Goch:

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Only a FOUR-SECOND WORK-OUT Each Day! and you will be ready to HARM people
DEVELOP UP TO 38 BICEPS
GROW UP TO 12" TALLER
LOSE UP TO 40" OF FAT IN YOUR FIRST WORK-OUT!
PROLONG YOUR LIFE BY UP TO 1,000 YEARS
GO TO BED WITH UP TO ANY LUDICROUS NUMBER OF GIRLS YOU CARE TO THINK OF PROVIDING YOU REALIZE THIS STATEMENT IS QUITE MEANINGLESS AS THE PHRASE 'UP TO' CLEARLY INCLUDES THE NUMBER 'NOUGHT'
Agree with most of the above. If you say 7-17 times faster when the number is actually seven and you have no evidence that the 17 happens you are a liar. Saying "Well, technically seven is a number between seven and seventeen" doesn't make it any less a lie.
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Re: Learn 7-17x faster with private lessons?

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I agree. I was just inserting the numbers relevant to the thread into the given analogy of validity. His point as I read it being that what may not be valid for everyone does not invalidate it for everyone. It seems to me that in using that analogy, he actually made the point.
You are totally correct Dave.
And I do like some of the other responses...

...and I just delete some of the rest of the responses because they are only interested in nit-picking. I've got more important things to do than pick pimples with someone that wants to squirt pimples. (I just posted a picture)

Point, private lessons are better for teaching new data.

Point, it's has been studied and compared in the educational field.

Point, so I'm going to keep doing private lessons, backed up by groups and sparring specialty classes because the clients learn much better, much faster, and at a much better depth of understanding.

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Re: Learn 7-17x faster with private lessons?

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You are probably right. Even if the whole body is moving the direction of the strike, and the end point timing is right, there is likely an antagonistic muscle hanging on somewhere, or the other hand chambering by moving the other direction.

But, I never said it was. Simply that, for their to be full power, the variables in the equation must also be "full."
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Full power = total mass x top speed.

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I agree. But you cannot slow down and hit full power. The key is in perfect mechanics and perfect timing. I doubt that the realization of real "full power strikes" is attainable. That is one of the reasons that 40 years later, people still hit the bag everyday.
good body mechanics, proper alignment and relaxation not necessarily full speed. But then I doubt we will agree here and that is fine.
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Re: Learn 7-17x faster with private lessons?

Folks,

You may notice some posts missing. I split the discussion on speed and power to this thread. Please continue that discussion there and keep this for the discussion on the private lessons.

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