Strengths and Weaknesses of Shaolin Kempo Karate

[Danjo]

[quote=marlon;699075]

Originally Posted by Danjo

I am having trouble making my self clear these days i guess: I do not know what your
-as is- is so i will do my best to make plain my point.

Base techniques are just that, modifications within a specific framework to allow the techniques to function and be effective is just common sense,

base techniques are just base techniques to learn then one must be able to make modifications (not change the technique) within the framework of the technique in order for it to be effective and functional. But the prinicples that make up the base techniques must work or the technique should be thrown out and not taught to anyone. our discussion of combination three previously, Danjo, is a good example of this.

I am saying, also, that someone learning combo 3 who just hits and hanks the person down with brute strength is not learning kempo and when confronted with someone bigger and stronger will fail. They must learn it based on what makes it work and usually those are the same things that will make it work for a small woman and i teach everyone to do it that way because it is more technically sound and trains skill to a higher degree in my opinion.

Marlon

So are you saying that all SKK techniques will work equally well for women as they will for men?

[marlon]

Taught properly and trained properly, yes. Body types being what they are some things are easier than others...in general a smaller person would not use a tiger technique on a larger person etc....we have many techniques to be able to respond to differing situations and the logic behind the choice of technique is true regardless of gender.

peace,
marlon

[Danjo]

Originally Posted by marlon

Taught properly and trained properly, yes. Body types being what they are some things are easier than others...in general a smaller person would not use a tiger technique on a larger person etc....we have many techniques to be able to respond to differing situations and the logic behind the choice of technique is true regardless of gender.

peace,
marlon

Well, I'm sceptical of this notion. Most of the SKK techniques that I've seen up to black belt would not, IMO, work as well for women as men unless they were modified and the strikes etc. were changed.

[Gufbal1982]

Originally Posted by Danjo

Well, I'm sceptical of this notion. Most of the SKK techniques that I've seen up to black belt would not, IMO, work as well for women as men unless they were modified and the strikes etc. were changed.

I concur with this. To be completely honest, I have stated before that thru the years, some of my techniques have been retrofitted to fit my gender and size.

Flying Crane...the styles that are SUPPOSED to be represented in SKK are Karate, Kung Fu (which I'm still waiting to see) and JuJitsu (Japanese, not Brazilian). If you read on the Villari website, you study 4 ranges of fighting...punching, kicking, holding and felling.

Carol...I never said there was something wrong with teaching gender specific techniques...in fact, I think it's good! What I think is wrong though is some instructors, in teaching this way, forget to give the principle behind the technique. Sure, modification is the key, but as I have always thought, the combinations are to teach a general example for a specific fighting principle. That's my theory though.

[marlon]

Originally Posted by Gufbal1982

I concur with this. To be completely honest, I have stated before that thru the years, some of my techniques have been retrofitted to fit my gender and size.

Flying Crane...the styles that are SUPPOSED to be represented in SKK are Karate, Kung Fu (which I'm still waiting to see) and JuJitsu (Japanese, not Brazilian). If you read on the Villari website, you study 4 ranges of fighting...punching, kicking, holding and felling.

Carol...I never said there was something wrong with teaching gender specific techniques...in fact, I think it's good! What I think is wrong though is some instructors, in teaching this way, forget to give the principle behind the technique. Sure, modification is the key, but as I have always thought, the combinations are to teach a general example for a specific fighting principle. That's my theory though.

i hope we can train together sometime or you can with Shihan...by the way if you read my post it says something different than what is being responded to, but i will leave that to training.

Respectfully,
Marlon

[Gufbal1982]

Originally Posted by marlon

i hope we can train together sometime or you can with Shihan...by the way if you read my post it says something different than what is being responded to, but i will leave that to training.

Respectfully,
Marlon

Marlon...that would rock. I have nothing against you...I just like to argue.

[marlon]

Originally Posted by Gufbal1982

Marlon...that would rock. I have nothing against you...I just like to argue.

i really do not take things personally and i like good discussions also....my best learning has often come out of being questioned.

Respectfully,
marlon