Well, you and Mike asked me questions, so I had to answer them... and, well, Ras was being Ras, so I had to respond to that as well. But, yeah, probably just going to kick it off again... fun times ahead!
bottom line, he used Doc Chapel to prove his ideas, and Doc turned around and said, almost verbatum "ras doesnt know ****"
there is nothing more to discuss.
He who angers you conquers you.
For in combat, to think is to die.
HARD TRUTH #9: "Knowing what to do is not the same as doing it." - Force Decisions, Rory Miller
Ras, please, just answer the question.
What are the principles taught in sword and hammer? If a kenpo practitioner where to demonsrtate a technique, what would make you say "Yup, that's Sword and Hammer?"
Heaven lies under the sword.
let it die dude.
Lee, Ras was fed the tactics of Sword and Hammer by me on page 17, he still failed to get it. When he finally put something down, it was a list of Kenpo principles (not specific to any technique) that he saw in his own technique, completely missing the point of the question. He can't answer it as he doesn't understand it. I don't think we're going to get any further pressing him on it.
No. I suppose not. How dissapointing.
Heaven lies under the sword.
Further proof that you guys have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm right...yet again.
No, Ras, further proof that you couldn't follow the simple argument that was put to you. Your ego is your biggest problem, son. Get past it, or you'll just have less and less to offer, and less and less people to offer it to.
to quote Blade:
"some mother ****ers are always trying to ice skate uphill"
I followed the simple arguments you made. They ARE simple too...simply disproven, simply incorrect, simply untrue, simple nonsense. Simply something most people with any real world scrappin experience wouldn't endorse or cosign. The more you post...and the longer your posts are...the more you out yourself as being nowhere near as knowledgeable as you present yourself as being.
You are, however, highly opinionated. That's cool. Have fun with that.
As usual, Ras understands better than you and your cosigners combined. You guys fail to understand in any way the simplicity of and supremacy of performance. Why is that? Because I've been to where you are, you've never been to where I am.
The bottom line is PERFORMANCE.
If I perform better, against more scenarios, sooner, more skillfully, and build perpetually upon that lead with my Sword and Hammer or [ insert any technique ] than you AND my detractors do...combined...then my performance is better. Period. That's exactly precisely what I do, too. You know why I do that?
Not because of arrogance. Not because my athleticism is better than any or all of yours [ I might be the better athlete, but Idk if I am and that's not the point ] . The reason I perform better than you is because my training paradigm is better, broader, deeper, faster and superior in every way.
The reason that my training paradigm is better is because I've made cognitive connections regarding the sheer supremacy of performance that neither you nor my detractors have made. You CAN make them, but REFUSE to do so...for various reasons. Whatever those reasons are? Fine with me, no beef with them. You may be perfectly content with those reasons too, and I'm cool with that.
But...can you grapple with your Sword and Hammer? No? Can you disengage the sleeper or any other choke with your Sword and Hammer? No? Can and do you strike to any direction against any foe from any transition with your Sword and Hammer? No? Can you use your Sword and Hammer with armed with a gun, sword, knife, stick, etc etc or any combo thereof? No? Do you even THINK TO TRAIN YOUR SWORD AND HAMMER IN ANY WAY REMOTELY AS COMPREHENSIVE AS I DO? NO?
That means that you'll ALWAYS be vulnerable to things with your [ insert technique ] that I won't be. That means categorically and empirically that I will ALWAYS outperform you. So will my students. And that's the bottom line.
Any doubts? Okay. Show me that you're doing with your [ insert your technique ] that outperforms what I do. Show me that you can outperform me doing your ALTERNATING MACES...with knives. Show me how you do ALTERNATING MACES...from different blocks. Show me your Short 1 or whatever...from off your back. Show me your Sword and Hammer done standing and on the ground in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. Show me how you achieve chokeholds with your Alternating Maces. Show me how you spar with your Attacking Mace.
Show me. No long drawn out posts. Show me your PERFORMANCE.
I outperform you. I out thought you. I understand better. And I will stay that way until you bridge the gap by...amping your performance.
Mate, I really couldn't be less concerned about Kenpo as my interest in martial arts lies elsewhere but, truthfully, you do your cause no good with how you approach trying to put your ideas over. Discoursing so sourly with those who attempt to illustrate why what you are saying is neither new nor un-flawed is likewise not going to do your credibility any favours.
With all candour and without rancour, rein it in a little if you wish to be taken seriously.
:chuckles: Sometimes a thirty-odd page thread is not a good sign
Jitatomoni Urami Kakotsu Kokoronashi - advice I am very poor at implementing
Rembo no michi omoi kokoro nashi - proof that not all old wisdom is all that wise
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