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dre2308
07-07-2011, 10:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyUi6Itcxo&feature=channel_video_title

clfsean
07-08-2011, 09:04 AM
Ummm... ok... I just saw body mechanic tricks. They're fun to play with but don't necessarily demonstrate what you say...

Xue Sheng
07-08-2011, 10:39 AM
Internal….external….no diff…false categories made up for reasons of politics, sales and inadequacies.

Old CMA saying…Internal goes to external and external goes to internal….if trained right they both end up in the same place

Chen Xiaowang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldH40uF_f28

Jenna
07-08-2011, 10:44 AM
Internal….external….no diff…false categories made up for reasons of politics, sales and inadequacies.

Old CMA saying…Internal goes to external and external goes to internal….if trained right they both end up in the same place

Chen Xiaowang


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldH40uF_f28
Yes, this is much better! I was wondering if I was missing something when watching the OP video. Thank you XS

mook jong man
07-08-2011, 11:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyUi6Itcxo&feature=channel_video_title

That's not internal , this is internal , nice relaxed power.


http://youtu.be/2lE4zawLQB4

mograph
07-08-2011, 12:06 PM
Internal vs. external is another false dichotomy. I prefer these:
- relaxed vs. tense
- low vs. high (coming from the previous)
- connected vs. disconnected
- sensitive vs. insensitive

Even "soft vs. hard" is troublesome. It could be said that a good punch is soft on the way to the target, hard when it gets there.

However, as with any controversy, there may be a grain of truth. To me, the "internal" relates to proprioception and the ability to be sensitive to biomechanical connections and distributed force within your own structure. The "external" relates to movements and techniques that can be taught and easily evaluated by someone else -- like a punch, maybe. A good system contains both, as many (including Xuesheng) have said.

More practice? More practice.

dre2308
07-10-2011, 04:42 AM
To Xue Sheng, thank you for sharing the video of Chen Xiaowang. Respect to the Chen style Taiji master.

dre2308
07-10-2011, 04:51 AM
That's not internal , this is internal , nice relaxed power.


http://youtu.be/2lE4zawLQB4

Interesting video. thank you for sharing.