string hand question from non-archer

[billcihak]

I am not an archer but I keep seeing photos of archers at various places on the internet. Why do the archers I see invert their hand when they are drawing back the arrow?

[Sukerkin]

How do you mean, Billi?

[Blindside]

By "inverted" do you mean with the thumb pointed down? If so, I have no idea.

[billcihak]

yeah, the thumb seems to be down on the hand drawing back the arrow. Doing the motion in the air, essentially an "air" bow, it seems to be more comfortable on the wrist as opposed to the thumb up on that hand.

[billcihak]

For example:

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/finding-her-3.jpg

Or less picturesque:

http://usarchery.org/multimedia/photo_gallery/659

[Sukerkin]

Sorry mate, couldn't find a bow in the first picture you posted :D.

I think what you are seeing is an action that is peculiar to the use of a 'release device' on a competition bow, the aim of which {yeah, archery based pun attack! :D} is to ensure a clean release, one that does not alter the alignment of the arrow as it starts towards the target.

[Brian R. VanCise]

Most definitely it is someone utilizing a release mechanism such as one of the ones on this page: http://www.americanmadeoutdoors.com/mm5/merchant.mvc Personally I utilize the one at the very bottom and it is fantastic! http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Xue Sheng]

Sorry mate, couldn't find a bow in the first picture you posted :D.

I didn't see a bow either :D

I'm told there is a sword in this picture (http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/8e/73/00/3ad9b38208fa89106596ea0a4d9f540d.jpg) too, but I can't find it... maybe you can :D




I think what you are seeing is an action that is peculiar to the use of a 'release device' on a competition bow, the aim of which {yeah, archery based pun attack! :D} is to ensure a clean release, one that does not alter the alignment of the arrow as it starts towards the target.




Most definitely it is someone utilizing a release mechanism such as one of the ones on this page: http://www.americanmadeoutdoors.com/mm5/merchant.mvc Personally I utilize the one at the very bottom and it is fantastic! http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

Yup it is definitely a release

[Sukerkin]

Sadly Xue, the link you posted produces this:

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/8e/73/00/3ad9b38208fa89106596ea0a4d9f540d.jpg

I was keen to see if my trained Iai senses could find the sword of which you spoke too :D But there is clearly no sword here ... :confused:

[Flying Crane]

Sadly Xue, the link you posted produces this:

http://i3.6.cn/cvbnm/8e/73/00/3ad9b38208fa89106596ea0a4d9f540d.jpg

I was keen to see if my trained Iai senses could find the sword of which you spoke too :D But there is clearly no sword here ... :confused:

Yowzers! all kinds of inappropriate "sword" comments spring up -er- to mind...

[jks9199]

I agree; you're generally seeing a hand position related to use of release tools. But there are basically three ways to draw a bow back without one. You can pinch the nock between your thumb and index finger, or you can grip the bow string with the fingers, with the arrow resting between the index and middle finger most commonly. In both of these, the palm is essentially down or in. Some people will draw with the thumb down, gripping the string as in the second example I described. That one's not too common, though.

See here (http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53361) for more.

[billcihak]

Thanks, after seeing the hold on some of the pictures I was curious. Thanks for the info. Xue sheng, I think you linked to the wrong picture because I can't find a sword anywhere in the picture.

[Xue Sheng]

Thanks, after seeing the hold on some of the pictures I was curious. Thanks for the info. Xue sheng, I think you linked to the wrong picture because I can't find a sword anywhere in the picture.

That's what I think too but I was told there is a sword in it... somewhere :D

[Indagator]

I finger shoot, two under, and for me the thumb down is just the way I do it. If I shot thumb up it would screw up my anchor.

[Indagator]

Sorry mate, couldn't find a bow in the first picture you posted :D.

I think what you are seeing is an action that is peculiar to the use of a 'release device' on a competition bow, the aim of which {yeah, archery based pun attack! :D} is to ensure a clean release, one that does not alter the alignment of the arrow as it starts towards the target.

release aids still alter the alignment of the arrow as it leaves the bow, the difference is that release aids induce vertical flexion whereas finger release causes horizontal flexion.
By this I mean that by the time the arrow has left the bow it has flexed in and out and in again from the bow. In the case of a release aid this in and out equals up and down. With a finger shooter it is left and right (or right and left depending...)

The advantage to a release aid lies primarily in it's absolute consistency, whereas a finger shooter has to train long and hard to produce a consistent release, a release aid releases the same every time as it is initiating a mechanical process rather than a human one.