Chat Discussion

[Rich Parsons]

Hi My Name is Rich Parsons

I would like to meet you all in the Martial Talk Chat Room.

I would like to do a question and answer on Modern Arnis and maybe some simple ones with Balintawak, and anything else that people are willing to ask me that I might know :D.


The Question I have for everyone is the following:

What Night works best?

Please post your preference for Time and Night.


Also if you have any specific questions I might need time to answer in advance ;).


This following week is out, for I will be travelling to and from the Modern Arnis / FMA Symposium in Buffalo New York. So, once we decide upon the day of hte week I will set the date and time.

Thank You
:asian:

[progressivetactics]

has that chat room ever been used?
Every time I check it, no one is in there.

I would use it often, if more were in there.

[progressivetactics]

sorry..
does anyone else ever get that Eminem song stuck in their head when they hear someone start a sentence with

"Hi my name is"

[Master of Blades]

No, and Friday is usually the best time for the chat room :asian:

[Bob Hubbard]

Last couple of times I've been in there its had a few folks.

Often, pretty quiet. What seems to happen is, someone pops in, sees no one, and leaves, then it repeats. Pop in, wait a little bit and see. Or! Post a 'hey lets chat' notice in the LockerRoom (we should probably sticky a thread so we dont have 4 gazillion of em up...)

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
Last couple of times I've been in there its had a few folks.

Often, pretty quiet. What seems to happen is, someone pops in, sees no one, and leaves, then it repeats. Pop in, wait a little bit and see. Or! Post a 'hey lets chat' notice in the LockerRoom (we should probably sticky a thread so we dont have 4 gazillion of em up...)

Now THAT my friend, is a good idea :D

And actually, I know its a pain in the ass and so on, but I really think more people would be encouraged if there was another whos online thing that showed who was in the chatroom. I would rather have that then seeing who has been online during the day :asian:

[progressivetactics]

good idea.
i'll keep my eyes open for it.

[Bob Hubbard]

Originally posted by Master of Blades
Now THAT my friend, is a good idea :D

And actually, I know its a pain in the ass and so on, but I really think more people would be encouraged if there was another whos online thing that showed who was in the chatroom. I would rather have that then seeing who has been online during the day :asian:

Hover your mouse pver the 'chatroom' link, and it'll tell you how many are chatting. Click on it, and theres a link on the chatroom home page that tells ya 'who'.

Once vB 3.0 comes out, and the chatroom mods are released, we will probably do a tighter integration.

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
Hover your mouse pver the 'chatroom' link, and it'll tell you how many are chatting. Click on it, and theres a link on the chatroom home page that tells ya 'who'.

Once vB 3.0 comes out, and the chatroom mods are released, we will probably do a tighter integration.

Aha.....Might wanna bring that to wider attention :D

[Bob Hubbard]

Originally posted by Master of Blades
Aha.....Might wanna bring that to wider attention :D

Its been mentioned a few times....... heh. ;)

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
Its been mentioned a few times....... heh. ;)

No one ever tells me........:(

[progressivetactics]

ooops......i guess we need to read more often....
sorry.

[Rich Parsons]

Ok, I see few posts here, and people have been answering the poll as well.

So, are you (* The General Population *) intersted in this discussion?


If there is no clear night that is best, would it be better to either post the log from the discussion or would you rather have a multi-night event?

Thank You for your Time
:asian:

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
Last couple of times I've been in there its had a few folks.

Often, pretty quiet. What seems to happen is, someone pops in, sees no one, and leaves, then it repeats. Pop in, wait a little bit and see. Or! Post a 'hey lets chat' notice in the LockerRoom (we should probably sticky a thread so we dont have 4 gazillion of em up...)


Kaith,


I took the initiative and created a sticky thread in the Locker Room titled Chat Room.

:asian:

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by progressivetactics
sorry..
does anyone else ever get that Eminem song stuck in their head when they hear someone start a sentence with

"Hi my name is"

Progressive Tactics,

I do not get it stuck in my head. As the metal Plate I ahve picks up lives feeds :D.

I do like the first Album and his song about his wife and going for a ride ;)

I hope to see you at the chat
:asian:

[progressivetactics]

there is no clear cut time that is best for me. When ever it is available, I willl try to use it.

I don't care for the ego trip...but i dig the music. No doubt he is talented.

Rich......Where in Michigan do you stay at? Are you familiar with Mr. Hatch-Canton area? He is certfied mostly in Guru Inosanto affilites, but also trained in Balitawak, quite a bit, from what I understand. Do you know (of) him?

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by progressivetactics
there is no clear cut time that is best for me. When ever it is available, I willl try to use it.

I don't care for the ego trip...but i dig the music. No doubt he is talented.

Rich......Where in Michigan do you stay at? Are you familiar with Mr. Hatch-Canton area? He is certfied mostly in Guru Inosanto affilites, but also trained in Balitawak, quite a bit, from what I understand. Do you know (of) him?


BB,

I live in the Flint Area.

I have tained with Manong (GM) Ted Buot for the last 5 + Years.
I do not know Mr. Hatch personally, I do know of him though. Or, At least I think I do know of him.

E-mail me and we can talk some more. I work and travel in the Metro Area all the time. It is not big deal to make a run to see people. :D

:asian:

[progressivetactics]

Sent.

Thanks.

[Rob_Broad]

After reading the big plan chat with Dennis Conatser, I have pretty well avoided the Chathroom. The tenor of the night and the way the chat was handled has made many of the people who were looking forward to larger chat event's pretty leery. Chatroom are meant to be a place to share ideas and converse, not be told to be quiet. I pop into the chatroom to be social and share so I only go in sporadically.

[tshadowchaser]

I missed that event.
If its an open chat with q and a then if a person is polite and everyone takes time to let the Guest answere questions there should not be anyone being told to be quite.
Rob-Broad if Rich has one stop in see how this one goes Give a big event open Q and A another chance

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by Rob_Broad
After reading the big plan chat with Dennis Conatser, I have pretty well avoided the Chathroom. The tenor of the night and the way the chat was handled has made many of the people who were looking forward to larger chat event's pretty leery. Chatroom are meant to be a place to share ideas and converse, not be told to be quiet. I pop into the chatroom to be social and share so I only go in sporadically.


Rob,

Cool Idea, to have everyone the chance to say what they want and to discuss it. I have not decided anything about the level of moderation I will request from our team. So here is your and everyone elses chance to give me some input.

First the special Event with a person is in a different room. So you still can go and be socialable in that room. So if it is off topic then you can chat there while my chat event is going on.

Yet. if I request no or very light moderation then how do I shout down people or are cracking jokes or being impolite and not giving others a chance to ask their questions or for me to reply? Would you support me or another mod n the room to kick the problem people out for a short period of time.

Honestly I am looking forward to your feedback.

Two reasons, One assuming people want to talk to me :D, I want ti to go well. Second, I and others have received e-mails from certain people that still admit they are only hanging around to be the fly in the soup here on this board.

So please Rob and others, give me your feedback and your opinions.

Thank You
:asian:

[Rob_Broad]

I actually think that instead of the large scheduled chats with a special guest that an interview would work better. Have a thread where the members can ask their questions and then they can be addressed by the person who conducts the interview. This would allow every person who wishes to be involved have their say so to speak.

The scheduled event I mentioned earlier seemed like a joke to me, I have no real problem with moderation in a chatroom, but often a phrase by one person can open up a plethora of other questions, but the way it was ran that night it was pretty much let Dennis talk and don't question his wisdom. There was many times when if he had stopped for a couple seconds he would have had several other questions which would have made the knowledge more accesible to everyone instead of few. I understand that was the first big chatroom event and you guys are still learning, but a little control over Mr. Conatser would have probably helped more people. I really like Dennis and have nothing against him, but i don't think a chatroom was the best forum for him to share his knowledge. I wish you guys the best of luck with events in the Chatroom, unless the guest knows how to moderate the event as well as the moderators it will always be more of a lecture than a forum of questions.

[arnisador]

It was of course our first chat and we considered it somewhat experimental. We knew there was some frustration but were mimicing a style we'd seen used before. Constructive criticism like this is most welcome.

Also, the regular chat room is open for conversation during special events, which are held in a separate chat room.

-Arnisador
-MT Admin-

[Bob Hubbard]

The style of 'heavy moderation' has worked in other chats on other services. The biggest problem wasn't the side tangent questions, it was folks who would pop in and not know what was going on. My concern was also to make sure that those who asked a question, got an answer, rather then being lost in the shuffle of a free-for-all.

It was a learning experience.

I expect that future chats will vary in how they are run, depending on who is involved, and how it is structured. An "open session' is more free flowing than a 'Q&A' for example.

[Bob Hubbard]

Another point is, sometimes, a 'chat' is not the right 'medium' for this, and a normal 'interview' would be better.

In those cases, we will probably accept questions for a few days, and then do a more traditional interview.

We plan on many approaches. :)

[theletch1]

I still can't get into the chat room via AOL. I can get in on a couple other browsers but aol is my main access to the net. Is there anything specific that can be done about that or will I just have to continue to open a second browser to chat?

[Bob Hubbard]

Sadly, you will have to continue to use a different browser. AOL refuses to follow established standards with its browser.

Not much we can do sadly.

[progressivetactics]

Aol is my ISP as well and gives me nothing but trouble.

Time for a change, i guess.

[theletch1]

Well, that does it!!! Someone call Ashida Kim and have him dispatch a few of his ninjas to AOL headquarters!! Not a problem with the browser really, just a minor inconvenience. My wife has downloaded just about every conceivable browser she can find (her version of MMA I think):shrug: So I have plenty of options.

[Bob Hubbard]

Just a side note: We have heard the complaints about shortcomings and other issues with the current software.

The statement "What do you expect for free" comes to mind. The software is a freebie, and sadly hasn't really been activly 'upgraded' in a few years. We kicked it where we could to try n fix it.

A new version of a different chatscript was release recently, and we are evaluating its merits. A few pluses so far is its faster, less 'flicker', and is supposed to be standards complient. (That means if AOHell got their XHTML stuff right, it should work)

I've seen a few others out there, but sadly they cost $$ we just cant spend at the moment. I realize its a catch 22. We cant justify spending the coin for something thats used occationally, and we understand that if there weren't so many problems with the existing software, it would see more use. (That make sence?)

So, short form: we're looking at a major upgrade. More info once we decide if we're gonna set it up and beat on it.

:asian:

[Rich Parsons]

I Have been thinking about how I would like to try this chat.

I think I would like to try the Presidential Press Release style.

With a slight modifications.

I will answer a question and or follow up discussions. Then I will ask for next question please.

Everyone can shout to their hearts content,and I will pick one to answer.

The good part is everyone can try to get in The bad part is I might not get to your question for a while as I might be thinking about it in the background.

How does this come across to everyone?

I would require at least one additional Mod to wwatch and help with some of the technical issues, as I will be busy typing many responses. :D

[Ender]

I didn't like the chatroom becuase it kept locking up and I have problems entering. isn't worth the effort.

[Rich Parsons]

As of now Saturday has the most votes

Saturday the 19th of July.

Time Slot?

I am thinking about 9:30 PM ( Eastern Daylight Savings Time ) so it is 7:30 PM on the west coast.

Everyone get your questions ready and tell your friends. :D

:asian:

[progressivetactics]

who are all these people with nothing better to do on a saturday?

Doesnt' the dojo stay open on saturdays? DOn't you people see movies? GO out with the kids? SOmething? Wow...who would have thought saturday as the stay at home and talk on the computer day.

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by progressivetactics
who are all these people with nothing better to do on a saturday?

Doesnt' the dojo stay open on saturdays? DOn't you people see movies? GO out with the kids? SOmething? Wow...who would have thought saturday as the stay at home and talk on the computer day.

Personally, Tuesday Night would have been great for me :D

Yet the people and the public have spoken. (* Said in a Ceasar like voice ;) *)

I could do multiple nights?
:asian:

[arnisador]

I say pick one night to keep it organized. You're in there enough that people can ask followups if they want to at some point.

[Master of Blades]

I have a party that night, but I will make sure I read the log ;)

[Shinzu]

ive used it a couple of times and i enjoy it. i would like to see more people there also :)

[Rich Parsons]

OK it is 9:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time which is 7:30 PM Pacific.

I hope to see you all there.

Bring You Modern Arnis Questions and let's have fun!

:asian:

[arnisador]

Announce it in the Modern Arnis forum!