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Galens
11-19-2009, 07:51 PM
To give some background first:

I have been pretending* to box for about 1.5 years now. I've also recently taken TaeKwon-Do to help improve my stand up. I'm also very very interested in ground work, even though I'm like a ninja turtle that became shell shocked when I do ground work X.X

I put out fliers around my school, hoping I could find a serious training partner, or teacher, and hopefully someone with my schedule and for free(If a teacher) My struggles failed, and eventually I joined a free gym with maybe one-two fighters that rarely ever show up.

I walked into my school's bookstore to buy some Nestle Green Tea and some mints, I had my private school teacher and didn't want to blow dragons breath on her. I was talking to the gentleman behind the counter about the new Windows 7 (We're both nerds). Out of nowhere comes this man named Steve. And my awkward era (Era lasting 10 minutes, not 10,000 years ^.^)

Steve walks in and hops into the convo. He's a computer guy too apparently, and a fellow metal head. He was discussing about his talents, and I had replied that I didn't do much besides hobby in computers, study, train and sometimes fight. (Oh here's the part where I forgot to mention that he was wearing a military hat with the Korean flag on it. It was his grandfather's. I had asked if he had been there or knew the language in hopes I could get more study time or culture shock from someone else than my private teacher whom I was about to meet in the next 5 minutes. He did not know either.)

Steve begins to tell me about his great skills in Jujitsu and how he could teach me some moves. I'm interested already. Unfortunately, it all goes downhill from here. Steven...*pause for a moment.* (Lets call him Robby, because he has the hyperactivity of Robin Williams...No...lets just call him Steve or Steven...) So Steve decides to expand further upon his abilities and tells me about things called kill moves in Jujitsu. Although very fascinating, was really beginning to sound like someone paddling a ship through the desert with a coffee cup...bulls$#@.

Steven continues to talk about special ubertastical moves against every single finger and toe on the body..yes thats right...one specific move for each finger. I interrupt him and write down the details to where I train and invite him to train with me on two certain days. I also mentioned that I learn a lot with instruction and then real time demonstration. Captain Iceman...I mean Super Ste....I mean Steve decides to continue rambling on RIGHT after I finished. He didn't seem to grasp what I said, so I said it again. Steve decides that he instantly forgot his incredible destructo skills he learned and now claims he only knows basic things in Jujitsu.

Now I feel incredibly awkward and embarassed sitting there in the bookstore, ON VIDEO BTW, having master Steven, I mean..Steven perform these uber martial arts things around my body, and telling me all kinds of crazy stuff, including the one about how he used to keep his nails long so he could do tiger claw fighting and scratch his enemies to death. (Or just scratch their itch, I dunno. I hope neither) Oh, btw, this guy is in his 30's.

My private teacher shows up and here I am jumping up and down inside my mind. "안녕하세요?" She says. I reply. "안녕하세요? " I turn to Master Steven and tell him that my private teacher is here and that I need to go. I nearly wanted to grab her and give her a giant hug for inadvertently saving me from the doom machine called Steve. Steve walks out after I start mumbling goodbye to him "ymayahmmm"

Steve leaves and I am now stronger and wiser because of it.

I learned today:

Always carry a pocket knife.

If possible, carry a roll of duct-tape

If possible, inadvertently have your teacher save you from awkward and embarassing contial artists.

Nolerama
11-19-2009, 08:13 PM
((what's a "contial"?))

you run into people like that at time, willing to spew their views on self-defense based on their knowledge of technique from movies. when they visit your training group, they don't really last long.

just be skeptical. ask yourself certain things like...

"am i really going to claw my enemies into submission with my super-long fingernails?"

"am i really going to have the time to find the proper one-touch pressure point to destroy my opponent?"

"is this person mentally stable?"

i carry a pocket knife, too. for practical purposes more than for self-defense. i don't want to get arrested/talk to the police about stabbing someone, even for self-defense.

MacGyver always carried a collapsed roll of duct tape. you never know when you'll need it.

Galens
11-19-2009, 10:06 PM
martial artist
con artist
martial con artist.
contial artist

Omar B
11-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Really? That's what you meant by contial artist? Way ta be wholly unintelligible.

Galens
11-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Rude. End.

jks9199
11-19-2009, 11:34 PM
Rude. End.
Sorry, dude, but you invented a word and didn't clue anyone in on what it meant.

You left us like Alice reading Jabberwocky; she had no clue what the words meant because the explanation wasn't there. If we're talking about a meal between breakfast and lunch, and I call it "brunch" -- you can figure out how I got there. But if there's no context, and you don't know the word -- you're lost. Complaining that someone didn't get your newly coined word (which wouldn't work in English pronunciation; it would most likely be read as "CON-TEEALL", not "CON-SHALL" as I presume you planned) is pretty petty...

Galens
11-20-2009, 12:06 AM
Sorry, dude, but you invented a word and didn't clue anyone in on what it meant.

You left us like Alice reading Jabberwocky; she had no clue what the words meant because the explanation wasn't there. If we're talking about a meal between breakfast and lunch, and I call it "brunch" -- you can figure out how I got there. But if there's no context, and you don't know the word -- you're lost. Complaining that someone didn't get your newly coined word (which wouldn't work in English pronunciation; it would most likely be read as "CON-TEEALL", not "CON-SHALL" as I presume you planned) is pretty petty...

I did leave out the specific explanation, which is why I explained it in the next reply. His comment came after explaining it, and his comment was rude. I didn't complain about the misunderstanding, just his comment.

Your post addresses my comment towards his comment, and it sounds as if you condone rudeness as being justified if a misunderstanding is reached. I disagree with the context you put it into.

jks9199
11-20-2009, 12:25 AM
No, I think you're overreacting to his comment. In point of fact, I don't think it was particularly rude -- and I suspect that were you to be sitting face to face, and he said the same thing, you may not have found it so rude, either. Remember that textual communication often loses much of the nuance; depending on who you ask, more than 80% of communication is non-verbal, which means a lot gets lost in a words-only mode.

However, here on MT, if you ever feel a post is rude, there's a great tool which avoids you appearing rude. Use the RTM button...

Marginal
11-20-2009, 12:27 AM
Conuments would be better served without the gladirotailghsiym.

Galens
11-20-2009, 12:34 AM
I have the perfect solution.

We can all imitate the Elcor

Omar B
11-20-2009, 12:41 AM
I did leave out the specific explanation, which is why I explained it in the next reply. His comment came after explaining it, and his comment was rude. I didn't complain about the misunderstanding, just his comment.

Your post addresses my comment towards his comment, and it sounds as if you condone rudeness as being justified if a misunderstanding is reached. I disagree with the context you put it into.

Explaining your made up word means nothing 2 posts after the initial post kid. As I said, wholly unintelligible and frankly sounds like a lame attempt at sounding cool. My comment was not rude, it was pointing out the absurdity of what you wrote. We have many intelligent people here who speak many languages (including 3 myself) but if it's not a word previously heard anywhere on this planet or cannot be found in any written form I would stay away from using it. Because effective communication involves people understanding what you are saying, especially when you are asking a question.

Galens
11-20-2009, 12:55 AM
Okay. Thanks for the replies anyways.

This year's word, unfriend. Never heard of on the planet until facebook first implemented its use. Now its being placed in the Oxford dictionary.

They all started somewhere.

The word Transceiver. Receiver + Transmitter. The combination of two known words to create new ones isn't new, nor unusual.

The story about martial arts and a con artist. It isn't too far of a stretch when combining the words con and martial artist, nor is it cool. In the context, its an attempt at over the top satire with a story that attempts to humor the reader.

Again, thanks for the replies about the story. Sorry for misunderstandings or mis-interpretations. Thanks for understanding (Not a joke)

Xue Sheng
11-20-2009, 12:27 PM
First what is Elcor?

Second this will likely be rude and "unfriend", most certainly ungood to use newspeak and this is entirely upsub but then I am an oldthink kind of guy, I think you are a bit guilty of duckspeak but don’t be upset at my lack of bellyfeel but I’m just not into blackwhite nor am I good at doublethink.

But enough of this, I do hope you understand or I may be insulted

Oh and I may be back a bit later to discuss Ingsoc

I must go now, it is time for my chocorat but I will leave you with this from Mark Twain maybe it will help



A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

Oh and don't make up words and expect people to get it without explanation and when they don't get it, don't get upset. And using an example of a word that was accepted in to the language as a defense for a word you just made up does not really work. There are a ton of words in the English language that many do not know so, IMO, it would be better to actually study the language and use it instead of making up words and getting upset and calling someone rude who asks you to clarify

Here are a few English words many don't know and there are a lot more Fustigate, Defenestration, sesquipedalian, Casify, Ventose, xanthochroid.... there are a lot of them

CoryKS
11-20-2009, 12:36 PM
Really? That's what you meant by contial artist? Way ta be wholly unintelligible.

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Nolerama
11-20-2009, 12:50 PM
I bow to the Portmanteau (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portmanteau) Master.

Jenny_in_Chico
11-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Hahahahahahahaha!!! This thread is full of win.

Omar B
11-20-2009, 01:40 PM
I should start posting in half words in some unholy mashup like a stupid radio dj does in an attempt to be cool. Let's all develop our own language so nobody understands nobody else ... then we won't need MT because it'll be all alphabet soup on here.

Xue Sheng
11-20-2009, 01:44 PM
I should start posting in half words in some unholy mashup like a stupid radio dj does in an attempt to be cool. Let's all develop our own language so nobody understands nobody else ... then we won't need MT because it'll be all alphabet soup on here.

hazza buh mo fee coo wit me man :D

Omar B
11-20-2009, 01:56 PM
hazza buh mo fee coo wit me man :D

ntunintlligblenuf!

Marginal
11-20-2009, 02:45 PM
So much mental embiggenment in this thread.

Jenna
11-20-2009, 03:27 PM
I only tuned in to find out what "contial" was. I feel disappointed now to have invested 38 seconds reading.. Oh well.. back to Facebook to unfriend some miscreants.

Nomad
11-20-2009, 03:41 PM
"Allow me to be the first to offer Dr. Johnson my most sincere contrafibularities! I am anaspeptic, frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused him such pericombobulation." (http://www.reviewers-choice.com/blackadder_the_third.htm)

Rich Parsons
11-20-2009, 03:50 PM
I only tuned in to find out what "contial" was. I feel disappointed now to have invested 38 seconds reading.. Oh well.. back to Facebook to unfriend some miscreants.

But you never friended me in the first place. :( ;)

Rich Parsons
11-20-2009, 04:11 PM
martial artist
con artist
martial con artist.
contial artist

Personal it would have made more sense to me with

Martial Artist and Con Artist generating Martial Conartist

Or for the minimalists the Martial Cartist but that could get people confused about people fighting with carts. :(

With so many polysyllabic words not used already (* excpet for a few shown in this thread ;) *) I never understood why we had to create new ones.

Oh I understand when we develop new technologies suchs a telecommunications and all the new words there as well as in the computer fields, but ...

Xue Sheng
11-20-2009, 04:31 PM
Personal it would have made more sense to me with

Martial Artist and Con Artist generating Martial Conartist

Or for the minimalists the Martial Cartist but that could get people confused about people fighting with carts. :(

With so many polysyllabic words not used already (* excpet for a few shown in this thread ;) *) I never understood why we had to create new ones.

Oh I understand when we develop new technologies suchs a telecommunications and all the new words there as well as in the computer fields, but ...

Oh the heck with it...just call him Bruce... it cuts down on the confusion :D

oooooooooh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc)
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable,
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy begger
Who could think you under the table,
David Hume could out-consume,
Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel.
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say could stick it away,
Half a crate of whiskey everyday.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed.

Tames D
11-20-2009, 04:52 PM
Textbook example of how to run a newbie MT'er out of town.

Xue Sheng
11-20-2009, 04:59 PM
Well if they get offended at being asked what a word they made up means.... it would not have ended well no matter how it went.

You shoud have seen my first post before I edited it... it was much less kind and much more along the lines of a good xue rant

Tames D
11-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Strangely enough, I got it. I thought the title was a typo and I read the OP to see if it was. After reading the post I understood he was doing a little play on words. I also thought it was a funny story.

Rich Parsons
11-20-2009, 08:46 PM
Textbook example of how to run a newbie MT'er out of town.

You may have a point.

But there is nothing wrong with someone using their vocabulary and also making a play at it, when the original poster did the same.

If I am in the wrong, then by that logic so would the original poster.



Well if they get offended at being asked what a word they made up means.... it would not have ended well no matter how it went.

You shoud have seen my first post before I edited it... it was much less kind and much more along the lines of a good xue rant

I agree with Xue, that those that asked up front and got rude responses showed the original poster was trying to get something over on the crowd similar to a troll or trollish behaviour.

The usual response for such behaviour is make a funny and point and laugh the internet is one of the last places in the Modern Culture where one can get direct social feedback on what is acceptable and not.

But the original poster in my opinion did not cross a line to deserve being banned, but I seriously thought about negative rep and a signed message. I choose not to force the original poster to fight his way out of the negative rep and what others would think of someone marked red, but hoped that the original poster might learn from the situation.


Strangely enough, I got it. I thought the title was a typo and I read the OP to see if it was. After reading the post I understood he was doing a little play on words. I also thought it was a funny story.

Good for you because you got it. I did not and everyone else did not get it either who posted. They were asking for clarification and then commenting on their confusion as well.

But for the original poster to get upset and tell people it was their fault for asking and not understanding his made up word.

To me that was wrong and deserved the comments and questions that followed.

Milt G.
11-20-2009, 09:08 PM
I only tuned in to find out what "contial" was. I feel disappointed now to have invested 38 seconds reading.. Oh well.. back to Facebook to unfriend some miscreants.

Hello,

Not fair... "Miscreants" is a real word.
Boy, did this whole thread get "derailed"...

Thanks,
Milt G.

Tames D
11-20-2009, 09:10 PM
You may have a point.

But there is nothing wrong with someone using their vocabulary and also making a play at it, when the original poster did the same.

If I am in the wrong, then by that logic so would the original poster.




I agree with Xue, that those that asked up front and got rude responses showed the original poster was trying to get something over on the crowd similar to a troll or trollish behaviour.

The usual response for such behaviour is make a funny and point and laugh the internet is one of the last places in the Modern Culture where one can get direct social feedback on what is acceptable and not.

But the original poster in my opinion did not cross a line to deserve being banned, but I seriously thought about negative rep and a signed message. I choose not to force the original poster to fight his way out of the negative rep and what others would think of someone marked red, but hoped that the original poster might learn from the situation.



Good for you because you got it. I did not and everyone else did not get it either who posted. They were asking for clarification and then commenting on their confusion as well.

But for the original poster to get upset and tell people it was their fault for asking and not understanding his made up word.

To me that was wrong and deserved the comments and questions that followed.

Hey, I have no cock in this fight. I really don't care if you label him a troll and ban him, don't care. I just thought he was sharing a funny story and everyone seems to be getting hung up on his play with words. He's new here and maybe should be given the benefit of the doubt. But then again, maybe I'm wrong, I'll re-read the thread.

yak sao
11-20-2009, 09:22 PM
A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.




PRICELESS!

Galens
11-20-2009, 10:04 PM
You may have a point.

But there is nothing wrong with someone using their vocabulary and also making a play at it, when the original poster did the same.

If I am in the wrong, then by that logic so would the original poster.




I agree with Xue, that those that asked up front and got rude responses showed the original poster was trying to get something over on the crowd similar to a troll or trollish behaviour.

The usual response for such behaviour is make a funny and point and laugh the internet is one of the last places in the Modern Culture where one can get direct social feedback on what is acceptable and not.

But the original poster in my opinion did not cross a line to deserve being banned, but I seriously thought about negative rep and a signed message. I choose not to force the original poster to fight his way out of the negative rep and what others would think of someone marked red, but hoped that the original poster might learn from the situation.



Good for you because you got it. I did not and everyone else did not get it either who posted. They were asking for clarification and then commenting on their confusion as well.

But for the original poster to get upset and tell people it was their fault for asking and not understanding his made up word.

To me that was wrong and deserved the comments and questions that followed.


Woah, big misunderstanding there. I never became upset that misunderstandings arose, nor do I find it intolerable or a burden to elaborate on anything if it needs to be clarified. I think things are starting to become far too misunderstood. I also never blamed anyone. Please take the time to re-read my comments. If you still feel like giving me negative rep, please do so. Thank you for understanding.

Edit: I would also like to mention that I find the comments about the made up word to be satirical, whether or not that is their intention. Please do not mis-understand. They are not in any way annoying, or angering me. Thanks for understanding.

Xue Sheng
11-20-2009, 10:14 PM
Woah, big misunderstanding there. I never became upset that misunderstandings arose, nor do I find it intolerable or a burden to elaborate on anything if it needs to be clarified. I think things are starting to become far too misunderstood. I also never blamed anyone. Please take the time to re-read my comments. If you still feel like giving me negative rep, please do so. Thank you for understanding.

Edit: I would also like to mention that I find the comments about the made up word to be satirical, whether or not that is their intention. Please do not mis-understand. They are not in any way annoying, or angering me. Thanks for understanding.

noprob welMT

aka

No problem Welcome to MT

But do you mind if we call you Bruce.... it cuts down on the confusion
Signed Bruce :D

Galens
11-20-2009, 10:21 PM
noprob welMT

aka

No problem Welcome to MT

But do you mind if we call you Bruce.... it cuts down on the confusion
Signed Bruce :D


I have several names, mainly because I sweat so much during training.

SpongeBob, Wet Mop, Mop Boy, Slippery Sign, Puddle.

But Bruce is fine. xP

Jenny_in_Chico
11-20-2009, 10:48 PM
I have several names, mainly because I sweat so much during training.

SpongeBob, Wet Mop, Mop Boy, Slippery Sign, Puddle.

But Bruce is fine. xP

Can I show my respect for you by plurifying (hah!) the word and calling you "Puddles"?

Galens
11-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Can I show my respect for you by plurifying (hah!) the word and calling you "Puddles"?


Epic

jks9199
11-21-2009, 01:00 AM
It might have helped had the word "con" or "con artist" appeared somewhere in the original post... And I checked; it's not there. As I noted, new coined words need context to be intelligible. Otherwise, they're conglomerations of letters/sounds.

Flea
11-21-2009, 02:32 AM
Welcome to MT Galens. I like your story. (And for the record, I have no problem with made-up words. But I'd rather stay on the topic of your story. :mst: )

I think every MA community has characters like that. It's human nature, just like every church congregation has a few holier-than-thous. I'm curious as to why you invited him to your class though? He sounds like a poster boy of who not to teach. Of course, I'm no instructor myself so I could be wrong on that. Glad you got rescued in any case.

kaizasosei
11-21-2009, 08:07 AM
I find myself often having to explain to non english speakers what martial arts even means...

sorry, but somehow, my mind is not willing to accept the word contial artist. I find it is somewhat misleading. I mean, mixing words up to that degree. Why not say a martial con artist or martial arts con. In some cases i could accept such mixing especially in context or amongst a certain group or society...i'm surprised such a word as contial even exists at all-i agree an explaination would have been helpful and made the post more enjoyable.

What makes them contial rather than just normal martial?? Is there some background story to this term?

Whatever the case, i believe it is good to be open, willing to learn and experience- the truth usually has a habbit of forcing its way out anyway. That is if dealing with 'contial' artists.
However, still not sure what exactly falls under the term contial artist, but i would imagine that one would need to expose their gameplan. Because knowing cons, everything is there for a reason, little can be trusted and there is some kind of underlying goal or target that is to be achieved by deception rather than upfront outmanouvering on equal terms.

j

Jenna
11-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Since this thread seems to have been hijacked by you grammatical fascists, hell-bent on some horrific new world order; one founded on the heinous notion of correct spelling and self-explanatory semantic, I want to just add that the word that means "newly made up word" is neologism.
Benito x

Tez3
11-21-2009, 03:38 PM
Hey, I have no cock in this fight. I really don't care if you label him a troll and ban him, don't care. I just thought he was sharing a funny story and everyone seems to be getting hung up on his play with words. He's new here and maybe should be given the benefit of the doubt. But then again, maybe I'm wrong, I'll re-read the thread.


Talking of English, I've just picked myself up off the floor laughing at just how rude this is on this side of the pond lol! We usually say dog not cock lol!

Tames D
11-21-2009, 04:36 PM
Talking of English, I've just picked myself up off the floor laughing at just how rude this is on this side of the pond lol! We usually say dog not cock lol!

Tez, get your mind out of the gutter http://martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif. A cock is also known as a rooster. And although I don't condone it or support it, cockfight competitions are pretty common. Anyways, I'm glad I got a rise out of you, http://martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif.

Tez3
11-21-2009, 04:51 PM
Tez, get your mind out of the gutter http://martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif. A cock is also known as a rooster. And although I don't condone it or support it, cockfight competitions are pretty common. Anyways, I'm glad I got a rise out of you, http://martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif.

Rise? no, just a laugh, most Brits have an earthy sense of humour, we were brought up on Carry On films.
I love the differences in language use, I like colourful, expressive language ( not rude lol) but I find some of the 'abbreviated' stuff such as text speak stilted and boring.

CoryKS
11-21-2009, 06:19 PM
Talking of English, I've just picked myself up off the floor laughing at just how rude this is on this side of the pond lol! We usually say dog not cock lol!

Uh-huhuhuh. He said cock. Uh-huhuhuh.

;)

Tez3
11-21-2009, 08:08 PM
Uh-huhuhuh. He said cock. Uh-huhuhuh.

;)

Sense of humour failure?

Shinobi Teikiatsu
11-21-2009, 09:36 PM
So back to the original topic...I don't even think you were conned. As far as I can tell, your story is a pretty light example of what can happen when you tell people you're into the martial arts. Also...carrying a pocket knife? Because of an experience with this clown? I know from your previous posts that you can't be much older than me, and so I now realize why young martial artists don't get much cred these days. Seriously, you could have just ended your conversation with the joker and left it at that.

Edit: A real example of being conned would have been if you became a student of this joker.

Tames D
11-21-2009, 10:27 PM
So back to the original topic...I don't even think you were conned. As far as I can tell, your story is a pretty light example of what can happen when you tell people you're into the martial arts. Also...carrying a pocket knife? Because of an experience with this clown? I know from your previous posts that you can't be much older than me, and so I now realize why young martial artists don't get much cred these days. Seriously, you could have just ended your conversation with the joker and left it at that.

Edit: A real example of being conned would have been if you became a student of this joker.

:rolleyes:

CoryKS
11-22-2009, 01:21 AM
Sense of humour failure?

Not really. Just that when someone turns an innocuous phrase into something else I tend to think of these guys (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E8BpJEni77I/SaayHzP72fI/AAAAAAAAIUU/nW1za6rtihU/s400/bandb.jpg).

Rich Parsons
11-22-2009, 01:33 AM
Talking of English, I've just picked myself up off the floor laughing at just how rude this is on this side of the pond lol! We usually say dog not cock lol!

It could be insulting as well on this side of the "pond", but I choose to assume he did not mean to be insulting with his choice of words and see how it all plays out. :)

Rich Parsons
11-22-2009, 01:35 AM
Tez, get your mind out of the gutter http://martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif. A cock is also known as a rooster. And although I don't condone it or support it, cockfight competitions are pretty common. Anyways, I'm glad I got a rise out of you, http://martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif.

Cock fights pretty common?

Can you elaborate?

I mean I have been to some none tourist cities in Mexico and I could not find a cock fight.

Just curious as to your perspective.

Tames D
11-22-2009, 03:30 AM
Cock fights pretty common?

Can you elaborate?

I mean I have been to some none tourist cities in Mexico and I could not find a cock fight.

Just curious as to your perspective.

A bad choice of words on my part Rich. I don't know how common the 'sport' is. I'm not into it. I've only heard things about it over the years. I've heard it's common in New Mexico, but don't know if it's true.
I've been a contributor to the World Wildlife Fund for years and I also contribute to some other animal protection organizations, so people that endanger animals in anyway are the lowest of the low as far as I'm concerned.

Tez3
11-22-2009, 04:41 AM
Not really. Just that when someone turns an innocuous phrase into something else I tend to think of these guys (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E8BpJEni77I/SaayHzP72fI/AAAAAAAAIUU/nW1za6rtihU/s400/bandb.jpg).


See the thing is you are speaking from your own experience, its not an innocous word over here and would have been 'starred' out if it had been on a British site not because it's insulting but it's a very crude word*. Different words have different connotations in your country from mine, I can't write a very innocuous word we use for pork meatballs on this site without it being censored because on your side of the pond it's considered a 'bad' word. so you assume too much mate.


considered on par with another 'female' four letter c word.

Jenna
11-22-2009, 07:13 AM
I am British and I hate Benny Hill. There, I said it. I am off to The Tower now..

Tez3
11-22-2009, 08:40 AM
I am British and I hate Benny Hill. There, I said it. I am off to The Tower now..

He's always made me cringe! We should have a 'I hate Benny Hill Society' Much prefer Python and that sort of humour. Talking of words I love Stephen Fry when he's doing his monologues and as he speaks properly it's not only funny but pleasant on the ear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKdGwfMD8u8

Jenna
11-22-2009, 09:29 AM
He's always made me cringe! We should have a 'I hate Benny Hill Society' Much prefer Python and that sort of humour. Talking of words I love Stephen Fry when he's doing his monologues and as he speaks properly it's not only funny but pleasant on the ear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKdGwfMD8u8

Yay, I am glad you did not get shouty for that dear Tez and +1 for Stephen Fry you are exactly right bout what you said!! And you know I loved when he and Hugh Laurie [from House] were together.. Still showing these reruns.. this is my fav old Fry and Laurie (: http://www.youtube.comwatch?v=noSOFIJdfwM Look how young they both look!

jks9199
11-22-2009, 10:17 AM
Folks -- we (and I include myself!) have wandered all over creation away from the original topic...

Maybe we can all work it back to talking about these nutjobs who claim to study martial arts and have all sorts of crap -- but nothing real?

Tez3
11-22-2009, 11:31 AM
Folks -- we (and I include myself!) have wandered all over creation away from the original topic...

Maybe we can all work it back to talking about these nutjobs who claim to study martial arts and have all sorts of crap -- but nothing real?

To be honest though that type has always been around, always will and if it's not martial arts it's something else.

Rich Parsons
11-22-2009, 07:15 PM
A bad choice of words on my part Rich. I don't know how common the 'sport' is. I'm not into it. I've only heard things about it over the years. I've heard it's common in New Mexico, but don't know if it's true.
I've been a contributor to the World Wildlife Fund for years and I also contribute to some other animal protection organizations, so people that endanger animals in anyway are the lowest of the low as far as I'm concerned.

Tames D,

I have not seen much and it when it is mentioned it is always underground, but as it is not legal in many places most do not taken people they do not know or a part of their social group.

I understand your last paragraph and agree.


Folks -- we (and I include myself!) have wandered all over creation away from the original topic...

Maybe we can all work it back to talking about these nutjobs who claim to study martial arts and have all sorts of crap -- but nothing real?

Jks et al,

My apologies for being off topic previously.


Now back on topic.

Over numerous year (* decades *) I have seen lots of these people, from those who had a class or watched a video or just some movies and had some thoughts in their head.

I even had a student who lost his mental way and thought he should be promoted over me and others. My seniors and the GM just smiled and asked him to worry about the requirements for his next rank. We tried to work with him to help him, but in the end it just did not work. :(

jks9199
11-22-2009, 08:27 PM
Some of what I've seen people come up with would have been seriously funny... if they weren't so sincerely serious about it! Arguing about how to use a sword based on Highlander is tame compared to some of the nutty crap...

Xue Sheng
11-23-2009, 09:53 AM
I have several names, mainly because I sweat so much during training.

SpongeBob, Wet Mop, Mop Boy, Slippery Sign, Puddle.

But Bruce is fine. xP

Ok then it's settled.... Welcome to MT Bruce

signed
Bruce
:D

Xue Sheng
11-23-2009, 09:54 AM
Since this thread seems to have been hijacked by you grammatical fascists, hell-bent on some horrific new world order; one founded on the heinous notion of correct spelling and self-explanatory semantic, I want to just add that the word that means "newly made up word" is neologism.
Benito x

Well YEAH!!!! I was using new speak directly from George Orwell 1984.... what else would my goal have been other than a new world order :D

blindsage
11-24-2009, 01:33 PM
Since this thread seems to have been hijacked by you grammatical fascists, hell-bent on some horrific new world order; one founded on the heinous notion of correct spelling and self-explanatory semantic, I want to just add that the word that means "newly made up word" is neologism.
Benito x
There is a distinct lack of spelling and grammatical mistakes in this post. Closet grammatical fascist?

Gordon Nore
11-24-2009, 01:53 PM
There is a distinct lack of spelling and grammatical mistakes in this post. Closet grammatical fascist?

Maybe just a stand-up grammarian. :)

Xue Sheng
11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Maybe just a stand-up grammarian. :)

Personally I prefer a sesquipedalian :D

Stac3y
11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
http://spogg.org/

theletch1
11-24-2009, 03:56 PM
Personally I prefer a sesquipedalian :D
I must remember to tweak the profanity filter sometime soon. ;)

Xue Sheng
11-24-2009, 04:01 PM
I must remember to tweak the profanity filter sometime soon. ;)

This is clearly a case of discrimination against xanthochroids :D

Galens
11-25-2009, 02:41 AM
I was so not looking forward to studying this morning, but after reading the last few replies, its just so full of epic win that I want to.

Thanks for the laughs this morning, its better than my coffee.

Josh Oakley
11-25-2009, 02:27 PM
Explaining your made up word means nothing 2 posts after the initial post kid. As I said, wholly unintelligible and frankly sounds like a lame attempt at sounding cool. My comment was not rude, it was pointing out the absurdity of what you wrote. We have many intelligent people here who speak many languages (including 3 myself) but if it's not a word previously heard anywhere on this planet or cannot be found in any written form I would stay away from using it. Because effective communication involves people understanding what you are saying, especially when you are asking a question.


Seriously, ease off. Try harder to figure it out next time. At this point you really are being rude. I had never heard the word before either, but I thought about it for like 5 seconds. And I'm not that bright.

Get over it, because it's one word in a long post. Quit being such a floccinaucinihilipilificator.

Omar B
11-25-2009, 03:03 PM
Awesome, throwing your 2 cents in on something I said like weeks ago.

I'm not the only one who had issue with it, I don't even have that many comments in this thread except for 2 on the first page addressing his bit of malapropism. Maybe you should go throw your weight around on someone who's made more than two comments.

Tez3
11-25-2009, 03:13 PM
Awesome, throwing your 2 cents in on something I said like weeks ago.

I'm not the only one who had issue with it, I don't even have that many comments in this thread except for 2 on the first page addressing his bit of malapropism. Maybe you should go throw your wight around on someone who's made more than two comments.

Is that a Barrow Wight? Always wanted one of them but my garden is too small.

Omar B
11-25-2009, 03:26 PM
Exactly.

Jade Tigress
11-25-2009, 05:09 PM
Folks, lets play nice eh? If you have a problem with a post please hit the RTM button instead of replying in thread. This way the mods can take a look at the issue without anyone risking action against themselves.

Guardian
11-26-2009, 06:16 PM
Evening Galen. I've met plenty of people like you've explained in your scenario here. It's all good, they come and go and most are so full of themselves, they don't last long, I usually just excuse myself immediately and it's not being rude or anything else.

I don't have time in my life for such non-sense and as you get older you will see that you don't either, so make a pact with yourself now. Walk away from those that just wish to waste your time before you allow them to waste your time. You'll save yourself a lot of aggrivation and time.

Trust me.

Josh Oakley
11-27-2009, 02:08 PM
Awesome, throwing your 2 cents in on something I said like weeks ago.

I'm not the only one who had issue with it, I don't even have that many comments in this thread except for 2 on the first page addressing his bit of malapropism. Maybe you should go throw your weight around on someone who's made more than two comments.


But if I never trolled I'd never be able to use such an awesome word! Life is all about opportunities, and this ineluctible moment could not be allowed to pass.