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Hudson69
09-24-2009, 04:24 AM
This is request to find out how you view your participation in the martial arts. Is this something you started just to be able to defend yourself, is it something a father/mother/brother/sister did and you are doing it because you look up to them, is it a fitness thing, are you a warrior and this is one of the skills you have taken up in order to become a better warrior, is it something that you need for your career path, is it part of a spiritual path...... What are the martial arts to you?
Please share your thoughts, I have my own views and would like to see how the rest of the martial arts world view their own entry into the world of self defense and (at least part of the time) empty hand combat.
Jaspthecat
09-24-2009, 05:48 AM
I like challenging myself and learning new skills.
Fitness - MA is great for fitness and as I'm in my thirties I want to prepare myself physically for my latter years.
I like fighting in a controlled environment (ie sparring)
I want to be able to defend myself and my family if the situation arose.
Jenna
09-24-2009, 06:50 AM
This is request to find out how you view your participation in the martial arts. Is this something you started just to be able to defend yourself, is it something a father/mother/brother/sister did and you are doing it because you look up to them, is it a fitness thing, are you a warrior and this is one of the skills you have taken up in order to become a better warrior, is it something that you need for your career path, is it part of a spiritual path...... What are the martial arts to you?
Please share your thoughts, I have my own views and would like to see how the rest of the martial arts world view their own entry into the world of self defense and (at least part of the time) empty hand combat.
For me I was bullied horribly at school because of my background and my art was a necessary defence. My dad owned a boxing gym and but in those days it was not so acceptable for girls to be fighting as it is now. A friend of a friend of his taught Aikido and I was thrilled to be involved and I think because of the stark necessity of a defensive capability I believe I maybe expedited my progress. I was training every day.
I think sometimes we do not always put our best 100% efforts into our training because we do not *at that moment* have a requirement for it [or maybe do not even conceive of needing it ever]. Since then I would always train my art with the mindset that I WILL need this some day [always hoping I would not]. I think if we train our defence that way then we are already a step ahead in physical and mental capability for when we are forced to defend ourselves again for real. And no I do not think that equates to or engenders a paranoia, just that if we have decided to train ourselves for self-defence then we should always envision ourselves USING those techniques for real thereby maximising the gain from our training.. sorry if that sounds ranty.. Yes I took up MA for SD though now it has expanded into a whole range of things not least being able to know some wonderful people.. I guess is the short answer haha.. Jenna xo
Chris Parker
09-24-2009, 08:55 AM
Hmm, martial arts...
I don't know if I can really sum the concept of what martial arts are to me and still do it justice. For me, the arts are a resource, and a source of myself. They are a way of exploring everything that makes me who I am, and finding where I can be better each and every day. They represent a guiding philosophy, and physical abilities. They give options, and the confidence to go through with decisions. They allow me to be a truer version of myself, for the benefit of myself and all those around me. They give me the courage to meet the world with integrity and congruence in each of my actions and interactions.
In short, martial arts make me me.
Andrew Green
09-24-2009, 10:49 AM
I do martial arts for the same reason hockey players play hockey, and swimmers swim.
Em MacIntosh
09-24-2009, 02:11 PM
I have found everything in the melee (not to mention everything else) is derivitive of psychology and physics. After that you subdivide aspects and keep those with overlaping attributes closely associated to support each other. Philosophy has it's place but I'm very sceptical when it goes against scientific evidence and if a philosophy sounds good to me I like to find evidence to support how it specifically applies to me rather than adopt it. I appreciate TMA for their effectiveness, which I believe is mostly from the attitude they were originally cultivated under rather than their techniques, therefore I believe it's important to understand the history surrounding the art and what angle the philosophies are coming from to appreciate them fully. Karate was for life and death against armed, and sometimes armored, opponents. This is why I believe you need to study kobudo if you want the real traditional karate experience. If you had a technique that didn't work, you died. Karate has had a very strict natural selection process and "grew up" with a controlled desperation to it. That's what I feel makes it effective. I find TJJ to be traditional in it's openmindedness and desire to innovate. I believe in progression and using tested knowledge and have no use for tradition just for the sake of tradition. I think there are many aspects of many martial arts that go unappreciated and criticism often doesn't account for the critic's lack of knowledge.
terryl965
09-24-2009, 02:58 PM
I have stayed looking for total enlightment. So far it has been a bottle of booze and a good women, not bad for a old timer.
jeorf
09-26-2009, 11:44 AM
I spent 8 years lying in the bathtub with my husband (the 2nd in rank at our school) on Tuesdays and Thursdays listening to the stories of how the students were progressing and his celebration of someone breaking through a tough spot for them either physically or psychologically/emotionally. I've always been fascinated by how involvement in certain activities stresses one to grow and change and acts as practice for life outside of that activity (often sport). I had my own sport and had really no interest in TKD for myself. I loved going to watch BB tests and all the BBs were our close friends but that was pretty much it. For some reason I went to a student test and had the epiphany that, "You don't have to be a black belt to do this!" (Duh)
One winter I couldn't bear to join the gym so I figured I'd go to class for a few months. Well, that was that. It has been just as I suspected: a growth experience, challenging to my mind, my heart, my body. It has given me a spiritual base (don't even ask me to try to put that into words). It has completely changed me. (My 2nd dan test - which, BTW, was with someone who was getting his yellow stripe at that first student test I saw - a couple of weeks ago was one of those life experiences that seems to be having a huge impact on my sense of the world and me in it.)
xJOHNx
09-26-2009, 12:43 PM
It is something that makes me a better person, that teaches me discipline and that guides me on this path in life.
So I guess it is a spiritual thing for me.. Zazen you could say. Reaching the phase where you just do your movements without thinking about anything.
It started as fitness/general condition thing.
Never really realised it till know, thanks!
This is request to find out how you view your participation in the martial arts. Is this something you started just to be able to defend yourself, is it something a father/mother/brother/sister did and you are doing it because you look up to them, is it a fitness thing, are you a warrior and this is one of the skills you have taken up in order to become a better warrior, is it something that you need for your career path, is it part of a spiritual path...... What are the martial arts to you?
Please share your thoughts, I have my own views and would like to see how the rest of the martial arts world view their own entry into the world of self defense and (at least part of the time) empty hand combat.
I wasn't really one to get involved in sports in school, so my father suggested that I give the martial arts a try. That was 23yrs ago, and I havent stopped. :) The goals were the usual...fitness, confidence, self control, self defense. Over time, the goals change. While I still reap the benefits of the other things, I dont need the martial arts to stay in shape. My goals today still revolve around self defense, but mostly, I just enjoy the training. I've had the chance to meet and train with many wonderful people. Many of the relationships with these people have extended beyond the training hall. I've enjoyed PPV events, cookouts, private workouts outside of the dojo, to name a few.
I plan on training until I no longer can. There is so much more to learn. :)
grydth
09-26-2009, 09:23 PM
Self preservation, with some thought and some friends thrown in along the journey.
pmosiun1
09-27-2009, 04:42 AM
Have taken martial art karate when 7, got interested back when 13 years old, buy lots of martial art books, tae kwon do, judo, kendo, lol ninjutsu and others. Join several martial arts when in high school, kendo, judo, tae kwon do, shorinji kempo. Now in 20s, got interested back in martial arts again.
The reason for studying martial arts when 7, don't remember, maybe parents ask to do. When being a teen, reason for studying martial arts, movies and it just felt natural studying martial arts. Now in 20s, it does not felt natural not studying martial arts. I guest i just like martial arts better than any other activities.
stickarts
09-27-2009, 08:04 AM
For me it's a great workout, I enjoy teaching others and seeing them learn and grow, I like the self defense, and I enjoy sharing the martial arts with our community. Owning a school, I also enjoy giving others an opportunity to teach and advance.
I got started for the self-defense. A byproduct of the improved awareness skills and self-confidence is that I haven't needed the self-defense as much anymore. :supcool:
Since then I've stayed for the health and spiritual dimensions. And of course for the SD because one never knows.
TigerLove
10-12-2009, 10:50 AM
Uf, hard question..i can't transfer my oppinions and feelings for martial arts by words.
Let's just say i found way of life in it..way of coordinating yourself, your ego, respecting yourself, and others..etc..
Greetings
tallgeese
10-12-2009, 05:17 PM
It is first and foremost, for self defense and always has been for me.
Secondary to that, it's now part of what I consider job specific training and upkeep.
There's certainly also a fitness component to it, but I think that's a by product of the first two.
Lastly, I've really enjoyed competing in various venues thru the years. It gives me a good outlet for such things.
Ninebird8
10-16-2009, 12:35 PM
As a short and small person, I started over 32 years ago as a teenager wanting to keep a specific bully away from me, as I got sick every day of running home from school. A few years later, I saw this same bully, had been training for a little over five years and was back from college for the summer, and spotted him at my complex. I went up to him, told him who I was, and was ready to challenge him. Instead, he started crying and told me about his childhood whippings/abuse, and how he took it out on me, and then he apologized. I learned the lesson of humility that day! Later, the art was my salvation, along with God, when I did some stupid things and lost my first family, and everyone abandoned me, including my family, for awhile. I was a college educated, arrogant fool who lost everything and was on the streets for 4 months. However, it was my kung fu brothers, not my family, who took me in and nurtured me back to health. I learned that God and martial arts are the two things that would never leave me, for they are in my heart and in my mind and in my soul! I have since found a beautiful woman on the third try, and along with Yang tai chi that I started 12 years ago, 20 years after starting kungfu, gave me an inner peace now. Finally, when I was diagnosed with a digestive disease 2 years ago, my gastro doc told me never to quit my arts or my joints would not function properly again due to the inflammation and arthritis caused by this illness. So now, the art is a matter of health for me. And, unless unable to do so physically, I will never quit the art that has been loyal to me and NEVER betrayed me! And even then, it will always be in my mind and in my heart, as one master told me, " you are a warrior from the neck down, and a master from the neck up." Amen! Other than that, the martial arts does not mean much to me.....LOL!
tonbo
10-21-2009, 04:05 PM
Like many people, I started for self-defense. I wanted to be able to protect myself in case something "went down"....I didn't want to be the thing that went down...;)
After about a year in the arts, I realized that it was an inextricable part of me...it was in my blood, and there to stay. Since then, I have been in the arts because it is a part of my life; it is religion, workout, philosophy, therapy, and mental challenge all rolled into one.
The sun shines, the wind blows....I do MA. Just the way it is....and I wouldn't have it any other way. :)
Peace--
--Tonbo
sfs982000
10-21-2009, 04:29 PM
For me the, like many other, my journey in the martial arts started off as one thing and evolved into something else. I started because of being bullied in grade school and wanted to have the skills and knowledge to defend myself if needed. Of course once I started training I began reaping the physical fitness benefits as well as the increased self confidence. My love of the martial arts started from day one and continues to this day. I try to not live my life with many regrets of what could've been, but I do wish that I had never taken such a long break with my training. Then again things happen for their own reasons and I'm back at it and will continue to study as long as I can. Now with my studies it's still the constantly learning that I enjoy, but also the fitness aspect for me is a great benefit still.
ralphmcpherson
10-25-2009, 01:19 AM
For me it actually had nothing to do with self defence. I havent been in a fight for nearly 20 years and I dont hang out in pubs , clubs etc or walk the streets late at night so there is no real requirement for me to learn how to defend myself , not saying it will never happen but it would be highly unlikely. I started because I wanted to improve fitness and flexibility and wanted a hobby/interest that I could persue for years and years. Martial arts have given me that.
Sigung86
10-25-2009, 03:16 AM
I've been in and at the arts since 1963. It's such a part of my life that if, somehow they took it away, I don't know what else I would do.
Allen a.k.a. Destroyer
10-25-2009, 04:11 AM
It's a way of life. A life passion. Something that just calls to me. Ever since I was little I was mesmerized by things like the kung-fu tv show with David Carradine, those cheesy kung fu flicks on weekends... it all fascinated me. I want to seriously study every style I can get in. I started for self defense, stayed in for the stress relief, and found something to love in life for the rest of my days (God willing).
I was about 6 or 7 when I was first picked on... children are some of the worst creatures on the planet (especially when they have bad parents). A couple older kids grabbed me in the bathroom, one had me in a full nelson and the other just punched my stomach like a bag for a minute. Afterwards I was crying, alone in the bathroom, wondering why... eventually the teacher sent someone to check on me... Had I known even half of what I know now... ai-sha....... but anyway...
A couple years after that I first started my experience with martial arts... I was given an old paperback kungfu book, it had stretches, some almost form-like combat techniques, training methods, etc. Most of my flexibility came from that wonderful little book. It was only many years later as I neared adulthood that I could enroll in a martial arts class and learn for real. (I grew up in a small town where it just didn't exist.) The first school I found I was driving 40 miles one way to make classes, until my dad found out just how far it was and pretty much stopped it cold (since I was driving his car and he was giving me gas money at the time, lol).
A couple years after that I met my current primary master in a self defense class in a local major university. He impressed me with his intensity... it was hardcore. As soon as I heard he opened his own school in town, I signed up that first month.
When I first started... I wanted to be SURE that no one would ever mess with me again. And if they did... woe unto them. ...It is a bad way to be. I wasn't at peace with myself quite yet. I had so much rage within from my childhood. It was my only fuel.
I progressed quickly in my training without incident, no one messed with me anymore. It's like I had developed even my aura as a weapon... women and children fled for their lives as I approached, men never made eye contact more than briefly, even the animals steered clear. (ok, maybe I'm embellishing just a little, but you get the idea, lol =) No but seriously, I scared people I didn't mean to without even trying, went around sizing up nearly every man to cross my path, always looking for vital spots, etc.
I would actually watch the news, using the foul murders, rapes, and robberies to fuel my fire. I was constantly looking for threats, weapons lying around to use against them, etc. Again, it's a bad way to be.
Fast forward about 5 years... as I neared my blackbelt I began to re-evaluate my reasons. I went through a phase where I almost lost my drive, my spark, my desire to improve. I had a dream one night... my master and I got out of his car and were going into a building and he said to me: "Destroyer..." (yes, he actually calls me that in real life) "You've gotta stop worrying about acting like a blackbelt all the time, 'cause you'll never need to use your skills." (or something to that effect, I've got it written down somewhere) The point hit home, even though it was just a dream. I've mellowed out quite a bit since then, lol.
If you ever find inner peace, hold on to it. Don't let anyone or anything rile you up and do something foolish. I felt like a true ninja once before in my life; my heart was full of love, the secrets of the universe were laid bare before me, and things just literally fell into place out of the blue. It's an amazing thing.
Since then I've branched into a couple different styles, still working on my ranks in my roots. There's just not enough time in the day to make every class in the area. It's a fantasy of mine to have every good area instructor all under one roof in some kind of giant complex with martial arts going on 24-7. Seems there's too much posturing and ego between some area instructors to make that happen anytime soon... but... it would be awesome.
Good topic!
Shinobi Teikiatsu
10-25-2009, 03:02 PM
For me, martial arts is a way to perfect and express myself. I train simply because I love training, not for a black belt, not for competition, self-defense or even for a future job. I simply love the physical activity, the ohana atmosphere I'm in, and the way I get home and continue to perfect my forms, being aware that I will always have room to improve.
MA is a way of self preservation.
Good work out for the body. Challenging for the mind and the main attribute is giving one the ability to defend self and others if the need arises.
Cirdan
10-26-2009, 08:37 AM
It is a way to discover myself
It is art, sience and fun
It is pure violence
Why did I start? I simply figured I would like it, beats lying on the couch.
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