BJJ school in my town

[Twin Fist]

someone has opened a BJJ school in my tiny little bitty town. I went and watched class.

no gi's

about 8 20 year old guys

the guys teaching it are supposedly BB's under Royce somehow, even though Royce has never lived in texas and they have never lived in california....

[Nolerama]

it'll be interesting to see if their BBs are legit. got any names?

grappling clubs, especially nogi clubs are popping up everywhere. where do they get their student base from? nearby university? or are they local?

[terryl965]

TF they probaly did a seminar and now know everything.

[Twin Fist]

the teachers name is supposed to be ebarb, under Pat Hardy. All the students are college guys

[Steve]

Is he saying he's a black belt under Royce Gracie?

[Makalakumu]

Is he saying he's a black belt under Royce Gracie?

LOL! It's McBJJ!!!

I knew that when I visited BJJ dojos in Madison WI and I found several schools run by blue belts that this was where the art was going.

I rolled with these guys, they weren't the "good" blue belts of old...

[Brian R. VanCise]

LOL! It's McBJJ!!!

I knew that when I visited BJJ dojos in Madison WI and I found several schools run by blue belts that this was where the art was going.

I rolled with these guys, they weren't the "good" blue belts of old...

It has changed quite a bit and the level of people at certain ranks has changed a bit too.



On another note Pat Hardy has a good reputation in Texas I believe and is a black belt under Royce Gracie. He regularly has him out for seminars. So I would imagine that these guy's are legit but your verifiable source would be to call Pat Hardy! http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Steve]

It has changed quite a bit and the level of people at certain ranks has changed a bit too.



On another note Pat Hardy has a good reputation in Texas I believe and is a black belt under Royce Gracie. He regularly has him out for seminars. So I would imagine that these guy's are legit but your verifiable source would be to call Pat Hardy! http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gifThis is what I was getting at. I was trying to get some actual information. I know several guys who train in Texas, and I could probably get a good sense of this guy's reputation if you're interested.

If, however, this is going to devolve into a "Ah, BJJ is no different from TKD" thread where we start talking about the good old days when men were so tough they ate glass and crapped out mosaic tiles, I think I'll pass. :D

[Steve]

Just based upon a quick google search, I found these pages:
http://www.tpcjiujitsu.com/hawk.html
http://www.tpcjiujitsu.com/jason.html

Jason seems legit... at least, there's nothing that seems really unrealistic. He's been training for years, had a purple belt when he graduated from high school and received his black belt several years later.

I haven't checked out his competition record, but if there's a question, that would be easy to find. It looks like he offers gi and no gi classes. Seems legit to me.

[mwd0818]

I will say, when BJJ was first becoming big . . . it was not uncommon for Blue Belts to be rolling around teaching classes. If they were a legit Blue Belt, they had more than enough to share with the newbie. I see less need for it now as BJJ has been around long enough, there are enough qualified guys running around that can teach - and a Blue Belt is still a ways away from being qualified to teach and run his own club. Purple? Maybe...

In any case, thanks to the power of the internet it is now much easier to verify some legitimacy to many people. It's also easier to learn just enough to look good and not have any clue what's really going on.

So far, I don't of any art that will survive the McDojoisms if the art becomes popular. TKD, Kenpo, Kung-Fu, Aikido, BJJ, Thai Boxing, etc. . . all has the potential of becoming a McDojo because at different times and in different areas it has become popular. Popularity in a commercial enterprise breeds easy marketing, more money and the potential for shrewd business people with less than effective martial skill trying to capitalize on it. Happens to anything, and in some ways, it's a compliment to the popularity of the art ;)

[Nolerama]

Wait... TF, are you going to train BJJ?

[Makalakumu]

Wait... TF, are you going to train BJJ?

Do it! It's a lot of fun!

[Steve]

Do it! It's a lot of fun!Yeah. Give it a shot.

[Twin Fist]

mmmm, rolling around on the floor getting man humped.....lets see......

Plus, I am 43, so i wont be competing and i consider it of .........questionable value in SD.

cant see me joining that class.

[Steve]

Please tell me you're kidding.

[Twin Fist]

mostly

[Tames D]

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[Makalakumu]

mmmm, rolling around on the floor getting man humped.....lets see......

Plus, I am 43, so i wont be competing and i consider it of .........questionable value in SD.

cant see me joining that class.

Get over yourself and do it.

[Twin Fist]

while i was mostly kidding, i have ZERO interest in BJJ. Thats not a slam, i have zero interest in Tai Chi too.

[Steve]

while i was mostly kidding, i have ZERO interest in BJJ. Thats not a slam, i have zero interest in Tai Chi too.That's weird. Tai Chi and TKD have so much in common. I mean, they're both good exercise but lousy in a fight. ;)

[Twin Fist]

which is why i am learning me some Kajukembo. I figure I will get my man humping fix there, what with the JJ element of Kaju.....:flame:

[Dave Leverich]

Actually BJJ is a great compliment to TKD. Throw in boxing and you have a pretty complete range. I didn't have any interest in it for ages either, then I tried it, and started seeing joint locks everywhere, and understanding the universal nature of hips, and... ok yeah so I still do TKD (25th year this year), but I also just got my blue two days ago :) (and no, I don't deserve it). But my instructor is a de la Riva BB (Heitor Abrahao) and says not only do I deserve it, but he'd be happy to take me to Brazil with him to get beat down, er visit, the academy in Florinopolis heh.

For the record, I didn't want to do that rolling around with men thing either.

See if they have a Gi class Twin Fist, you'd be surprised. My TKD instructor has 30+ years TKD and wore a white belt this weekend, along with 5 other TKD masters. Each one was grinning ear to ear and having a blast.

[Twin Fist]

if they have a gi class i might try it

[Steve]

http://www.tpcjiujitsu.com/training.html

Looks like they've got BJJ Basics most weeknights. I am guessing that means gi. Only way to know for sure would be to give them a call. If it's anything like our school, it will focus on fundamentals: escapes, positional drills and basic submissions.

[Dave Leverich]

http://www.tpcjiujitsu.com/training.html

Looks like they've got BJJ Basics most weeknights. I am guessing that means gi. Only way to know for sure would be to give them a call. If it's anything like our school, it will focus on fundamentals: escapes, positional drills and basic submissions.

It looks like that to me also Steve, the Sub grappling class mentions NO gi, so I'd assume the others are Gi unless they state Nogi also?

Give it a shot TF, it's seriously amazing to start fresh in an art. I don't remember your background beyond TKD, but if you have any Hapkido or Akido etc, you'll start to see all kinds of things (just flip the plane to horizontal usually hehe). I really hope you take the opportunity. :D