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Datu Tim Hartman
05-12-2003, 01:42 PM
Greetings-
I’m proud to announce the addition of a new camp on the WMAA events schedule:

Mid-West Fall Camp
November 1-2, 2003
Detroit, Michigan

Instructors include:
Datu Tim Hartman
GM Bong Jornales
Guro Rich Parsons
More TBA

Contact: Paul Janulis
Phone: 248-722-1634
E-mail: pauljanulis@hotmail.com


There will be more information to follow.

Datu Tim Hartman
07-05-2003, 04:00 PM
Paul-

how are the hotel arrangments coming?

TallAdam85
07-05-2003, 06:03 PM
what are the prices also if we bring a few people can we get a dicount?

thanks
adam

Datu Tim Hartman
07-05-2003, 06:16 PM
We haven't worked out all of the details yet, but I do know that there will be group rates.

progressivetactics
07-05-2003, 07:29 PM
I thought Paul was living in New York now.

Please send out info via snail mail as well, as we would like to support it, if it works within our schedule.

Thanks,

Datu Tim Hartman
07-05-2003, 08:11 PM
He went to New York for a month for his job and is now back. We'll keep you updated.

TallAdam85
07-06-2003, 12:16 AM
Is it a 2 Day class? fri-sat or sat- sun?



adam

arnisador
07-06-2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by TallAdam85
Is it a 2 Day class? fri-sat or sat- sun?

It's November 1st and 2nd of 2003. That's a Sat. and Sun.

progressivetactics
07-06-2003, 08:41 AM
we will add it to the calender.

Datu Tim Hartman
07-06-2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by progressivetactics
we will add it to the calender.

Looking forward to seeing you there!

:asian:

TallAdam85
07-06-2003, 01:44 PM
let me know when u get the flyer made and then just give me ur email then i will telll u where to send it to

progressivetactics
07-06-2003, 11:17 PM
Adam, I will keep you in the loop as well......both with postings on my site, email confirmations and a hard copy, if we bump into each otehr before hand.

TallAdam85
07-07-2003, 01:33 AM
ok
master barker you going to come up to my school friday to train with guro? I plan on going back to train friday

progressivetactics
07-07-2003, 11:42 AM
i sent guru an email last week, but havent heard back yet.
I would like to.

Cruentus
07-07-2003, 11:54 AM
I'm sorry that I missed this thread, from when I was out of town.

Here was my reply to Adam in another thread:


Adam; it would be great if you were to come!

I will be talking with some of the local Arnis players in the area prior to the event; Mr. Carlton will be one of those people.

Events like these are a great chance to see a variety of Modern Arnis players, and good martial artists.

WMAA events are not closed events; so we often provide a variety of training from both WMAA instructors, as well as non-WMAA instructors. We also often get quite a few non-WMAA attendees.

We certainly have enough high level instructors and members to do closed events, but considering that Remy Presas welcomed all people to attend his events, and he often did joint seminars with other non-modern arnis teachers (Dr. Gyi, Wally Jay, George Dillman, Bobby Toboada, to name a few), we figured that we would keep up with the spirit of the Professor in this way. We are concerned only with good training and good modern arnis.

Through my experience, because of our diversity our events become a wonderful exchange of ideas. A WMAA event is a good idea, for any martial artist/modern arnis player of ANY organization. It is just nice to set aside the politics for awhile and train!

So, since I'll probably be contacting the school you train at regarding the event, you most likely won't be coming "alone."
But don't worry about coming "by yourself," because we are all friends in the arts, so nobody is "alone" at one of our events.

Pop me a private message here with your e-mail address, so I can keep you updated on information as we get closer to the event.

Considering that this event will be right around the corner from you (Rochester, Michigan), it would be ashame for you to miss it.

Talk to you soon!!


So, I will keep you guys updated as to details about the event as they come!

Your friend,

Paul Janulis
:asian:

progressivetactics
07-07-2003, 12:03 PM
Paul,
I am interested as well. Please make sure I get copies of what you do!

thanks, and welcome back to michigan!

Cruentus
07-07-2003, 12:05 PM
Thank You! :D

Rich Parsons
10-13-2003, 09:49 PM
Paul,

Any Updates?

Cruentus
10-15-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Rich Parsons
Paul,

Any Updates?

Yes...get your pre-registration in, everyone! The deadline is coming soon...!

More later :D

Cruentus
10-17-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by PAUL
Yes...get your pre-registration in, everyone! The deadline is coming soon...!

More later :D

Just in case anyone here needs more info...although this has been up on the WMAA website for sometime, click here:

http://www.wmarnis.com/mwfcamp.htm

Particularly pay attention to the hotel info.

I have extended the preregister date to Monday, as well as the hotel registration date. The hotel will only hold rooms til monday, but after monday they won't hold them any more. You can still get our discounted rate for the hotel, provided that they have rooms available, though.

This will give some of ya's more time who are behind the 8-ball. ;)

Call me with questions!

:)

Cruentus
10-19-2003, 05:34 PM
Just to update...we got some more pre-registers for those who value the discount.

Also..I talked briefly with GM Journalas, and he informed me that on top of double stick and pure modern arnis stuff, he will also address some FMA techniques with a rope. This should be very interesting and exciting!

Rich Parsons
10-19-2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by PAUL
Just to update...we got some more pre-registers for those who value the discount.

Also..I talked briefly with GM Journalas, and he informed me that on top of double stick and pure modern arnis stuff, he will also address some FMA techniques with a rope. This should be very interesting and exciting!

GM Bong Jornalis gave a demonstration of this and even tried to work with me so I could learn. He is very patient and kind, and has lots of talent and skill. Come check him and the rest of us out.

:asian:

Cruentus
10-20-2003, 03:00 PM
As the date gets closer and closer...I get more and more excited!

Hearing about the wonderful Deleware event makes me even more excited about our 1st Michigan Camp. We have so many Modern Arnis Players in Michigan, as well as Ohio, Indiana, Illinios, and Canada who have planned to join us, making for a great time!

I hope that you all will not miss this event!

:asian:

Cebu West
10-20-2003, 11:41 PM
I just hosted the WMAA Camp in Delaware and was with Datu Tim, GM Bong Jornales and Guro Rich Parsons. These guys were just great. Not only their teaching ability and knowledge but they also enjoy being with the people and having fun and enjoying the whole camp experience.
If you can make it to Paul's Camp, you won't be disapointed. These guys have excellent stuff and are a pleasure to be around.
It's worth the trip.

SAL

arnisador
10-21-2003, 12:58 AM
Congratulations Cebu West!

Cruentus
10-21-2003, 10:17 AM
Thanks Sal!

Cruentus
10-22-2003, 02:28 PM
He...he....!

If you guys watch carefully, you'll see a banner for the camp that Kaith so nicely put up for us (on the upper right hand of the screen when you going from page to page).

See....YOU KNOW this camp is gonna be sweet when we have a cool banner up for it here on MT! :D

Rich Parsons
10-27-2003, 03:16 PM
How do MAO and Whoopass do it?

oh Yeah!

Bump!

Now I got it ;)

Datu Tim Hartman
10-28-2003, 04:49 PM
Getting closer.
:asian:

TallAdam85
10-29-2003, 04:31 AM
it looks like i am going to have to work this weekend I am realy bummed out but I need the money for supergrands I will keep you guys informed

Datu Tim Hartman
10-30-2003, 01:38 PM
I'm leaving a couple hours. See you all soon.

Rich Parsons
10-30-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Renegade
I'm leaving a couple hours. See you all soon.


Thanks For the Warning, I will turn out the lights and lock the doors ;) :D

TallAdam85
10-30-2003, 11:04 PM
Thanks For the Warning, I will turn out the lights and lock the doors

sound like my family when they know I am comming over

Datu Tim Hartman
10-30-2003, 11:45 PM
Made it safely!

:tank: :stoplurk: :apv: :xwing: :samurai:

TallAdam85
10-30-2003, 11:47 PM
GLAD to hear that sir and happy Halloween

Datu Tim Hartman
11-02-2003, 08:12 AM
So far, so good!:asian:

Bob Hubbard
11-03-2003, 01:00 AM
Got back a little while ago, and all I can say was, it was a blast.

There was some damn good stuff shared there by all the instructors. We got a ton of pics and video clips, and there will be some site updates shortly with the best of the stuff. I'm gonna let some folks with better memories than me describe what was taught as my notes are somewhere in my bag at the moment. heh.

in summary, Datu Hartman, GM Jornales and Guro Parsons did excellent sessions covering open hand, knife, stick, long blade (sword/machette), rope and more.

Tradition was again upheld as Rich Parsona and I spent some time doing some intense stick sparring, this year we were joined by TallAdam85 in an incredible 3 way dance on Saturday night.

I also had the pleasure of doing some full contact rattan sparring with GM Jornales. There will be a bit more on that later...all I can say is theres a big difference between the padded stick and raw rattan....to quote the late great Road Warrior Hawk, "Oh what a rush!"

I met some great folks this past weekend and definately look forward to seing everyone again.

I'd also like to send a personal thank you to Rich for his hospitality, and to Bryson Ingram and James Vail for their help with a video demo..it'll be up soon! :) Last, but not least, I'd like to thank Paul Janulis for hosting the camp.

Not a bad start to things...am definately looking forward to next years camp.

:asian:

TallAdam85
11-03-2003, 04:15 PM
oh yea lot of fun but i will write my review when i get more time

Black Tornado
11-03-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz

I also had the pleasure of doing some full contact rattan sparring with GM Jornales.


That sound's like pain land...... Ouch!

Rich Parsons
11-03-2003, 11:13 PM
I hope I can see the video from the full contact sparring ;) and learn from what I see of how I was moving.


I enjoyed teaching at this Camp, and I hope to have the oppurtunity to teach at camps like this one and the Delaware one, hosted by Chad and Sal :D.

As I just got home from a long day and should be in bed for an early day tomorrow, I will slip out for now.

:asian:

Cruentus
11-04-2003, 10:23 AM
First off, I'd like to thank all the instructors, and all those who attended the event. I was proud to be a host of this camp. We had top-notch instruction of a very diverse nature, and we all around had a great time!

We started the camp Saturday Morning at 10 am. Datu Tim Hartman began the camp with his new knife program that focuses more on the practical aspects of the knife over the "art" of the knife. I personally was very impressed by the material, and I think everyone who attended would agree with this. Datu Tim definitely brought reality to the table with this session. He covered the different kinds of attackers you might run into, the danger of disarms, "damage control," 2 hands on the knife hand if your unarmed and have to take control, taking into account environmental factors such as slippery terrain, and taking advantage of your environment such as using the ground or a wall to aid in your disarm. We covered these aspects and more in the form of partner drills.

We broke for lunch at 12:30....all you can eat China Buffet! :burp:

We resumed at 2pm with GM Bong Journales. GM Journales probably has the most endurance I have ever seen in one person! We worked on double stick and footwork drills. We also covered rope techniques. Let me tell you, we all broke a sweat! I was glad that I didn't eat too much buffet for lunch! :D I was really pleased with this session, though. These were some great footwork drills that would work well with double stick and largo techniques. Also, the rope training was great in that we rarely get to cover 'soft' weapons at Modern Arnis seminars; however soft weapons are great tools for self-defense that we should always keep in minds. Things like clothing, belts, and ropes are almost always nearby, and could be used for defense. I found GM Journales session very useful, as well as a great workout! It is also important to mention here that Wendi, Bongs wife, was a wonderful treat to have at the camp. She is a very talented martial artist herself, and she aided GM Bong in his teaching.

Guro Rich Parsons ran the 3rd session at 4pm. People's brains were already fried from the large amount of material taught by GM Bong and Datu Hartman. They were in for a heck of a lot more with Rich's session! We come to camps to fry our brains with as much material as we can retain, so I definitely think we succeeded in that! Rich covered 6-count drill with the stick and dagger. Highly useful, and highly practical! I personally enjoyed this session and learned quite a lot from it. Rich brought a new perspective to 6-count that I will definitely use in my teaching as well. Also, Rich helped me personally with hashing out some of the details of my own stick and knife fighting strategy. I know that everyone walked away from this session with a much better understanding of the little understood stick and dagger. We were able to translate this to just dagger also. The end of the session was great because people brought many good questions to the table, which Rich answered very well. I think that people learned a lot from this session, so I hope everyone took good notes!

We went to a reserved dinner at the Rochester Brewery at 6pm. Good food! :)

We returned to the Martial Arts School at 7:30 pm to have an open session with all the instructors. Some people were so fried from all the great material that they went to their hotels and homes to rest up for Sunday. Others stayed. Bong and Wendi made themselves available for private coaching and training for the select few that stayed. Rich Parsons, Bob Hubbard, and Adam Lux beat the crap out of each other with flexi sticks, keeping up with the Rich and Bob battling camp tradition. We had a few visitors come in that evening as well, and it was all around a good time. When we were all burned from training, we went to Fridays for a nightcap around 10pm. We had a great time eating, drinking, and chatting. I hit the pillow at about 1am, but I know that some didn't even leave Fridays until 1:30! We ended a long, productive, and fun day! :cheers:

We returned at 10 AM on Sunday for another great session from Guro Rich Parsons. He continued with the material he covered from the previous day, but showed how the material translated to the single cane.

Tim followed with another great knife session, continuing from the previous day also. It was good to see this much knife covered at the camp, and I know that the attendants were very pleased with this.

GM Journales and Wendi also continued from the previous day with double stick and more rope work. I have grown accustomed to the rope. What a fun tool to use!

We ended the day with an awesome demonstration of WEKAF style full contact stick fighting. GM Bong and Wendi not only demonstrated, but also gave a great explanation of the rules and methods involved. Then some of us got a chance to throw the gear on and go at it with GM bong. Bob, Rich, Bill, and Adam all took advantage of this opportunity. I can tell you that I was glad I experienced it. It was a very different feeling with all that gear on. I had a particular problem with my helmet in that the front put pressure on my throat, restricting my breathing. My neck is almost 18 inches around, though. I wonder if Rich had this problem also? Anyways, you burn a lot more energy in a few one-minute rounds then you would think with all that gear on. GM Bong demonstrated his extremely high endurance levels once again by taking us all on one by one! All in all, this was very impressive and enjoyable.

Sadly, Sunday afternoon, after pictures and goodbyes, we all had to part ways, ending our 1st WMAA Michigan Fall camp. It was a great time, leaving a lot of memories for all those who attended. Once again, thank you all who supported this event, making it a success. We'll look forward to having an even better one next year!

Sincerely,

Paul Janulis
WMAA Michigan Fall Camp Host
2003

TallAdam85
11-04-2003, 01:05 PM
I am plaining on next year paul lots of fun thanks for hosting it
meet some nice people and had alot of fun

TallAdam85
11-04-2003, 06:21 PM
hay just wondering when and where at the pics from the camp going to be and how much for a copy of the tape paul

Cruentus
11-04-2003, 06:58 PM
I have no idea about the copies of the tapes yet. For pics, Tim and Bob will have to answer that one, as they are in charge. I believe some will be up on the website.