Banging

[Kirk]

I've heard this term used, e.g. "he's a good banger" or "we like
to get together and bang" often. What does it mean? Can you
give examples?

At first, I thought it meant someone that knew how to really dish
it out, but without killing you on tech lines. Then I thought it
meant they were really good at sparring. What does it mean?

[KenpoTess]

well in my opinion.. Banging bare flesh against your partner..
sparring sans pads, techniques done with control yet with speed with contact.. using your blocks (forearms, elbows, shins,knees etc) against a bareknuckled fists and kicks ..etc etc..

Most of our upper belts 'bang' :)

[Phil Elmore]

I would agree that "banging" involves bare flesh and a partner, yes. ;)

[XtremeJ_AKKI]

Originally posted by Sharp Phil
I would agree that "banging" involves bare flesh and a partner, yes. ;)

That was my first thought too, but I didn't wanna say it. :lol:

[Robbo]

Banging is more of a attitude, a specific way of doing techniques.

When you're banging your techniques you are going full out and the potential for injury is present. If you don't move correctly you will get hit. It means to do your techniques with intensity, focus, & power. When we bang we also learn how to take a technique, how to move, how to breathe, to absorb the blows. Why would you want to get hit? It adds more realism and if you're ever nailed in the street you have some reference to what it feels like to be seriously hit.

Of course all this is tailored to the kind of strike. You wouldn't bang with a arm break, but with a uppercut to the floating rib, you can let fly a little more.

Also you can change the weapons. If a handsword to the throat is in the technique, turn your palm towards the attacker and hit them flat just below the neck, this way you can add some power without running out of training partners.

Rob

[Kenpo Yahoo]

I've heard this term used, e.g. "he's a good banger" or "we like
to get together and bang" often. What does it mean? Can you
give examples?

At first, I thought it meant someone that knew how to really dish
it out, but without killing you on tech lines. Then I thought it
meant they were really good at sparring. What does it mean?


Well, that actually depends on if you've ever heard some of Jimmy Buffet's songs, maybe someone will get that. Why does it have to be specifically one thing? It's slang, therefore depending on the way it is used, it could have different meanings to different people.

Although I have to admit before I opened this I thought you were going to be asking something about "RELATIONSHIPS" with other students in your class. :ladysman: hee hee hee.



well in my opinion.. Banging bare flesh against your partner..

Most of our upper belts 'bang'


Sweet!!!!! Though, I'd hate to see the foreplay. :boxing:

[Ender]

we called it "gettin nasty"...shrug

[Kirk]

Just strictly with technique lines, we say "put some stank on it!"

[XtremeJ_AKKI]

Originally posted by Kirk
Just strictly with technique lines, we say "put some stank on it!"

That sounds so ghetto.....lol.

[kenpo3631]

Then you ain't been there yet...

Banging is doing your techniques on each other with gumption. I remember leaving workout with bruise you could be proud of.

[Kirk]

Originally posted by kenpo3631
Then you ain't been there yet...

Banging is doing your techniques on each other with gumption. I remember leaving workout with bruise you could be proud of.

I've been there. I've had a good share of bumps bruises, and
hyperextensions. I just didn't know in what aspect it was. Maybe
they fight bare fisted, maybe it was in reference to sparring, etc.

[kenpo3631]

Originally posted by Kirk
I've been there. I've had a good share of bumps bruises, and
hyperextensions. I just didn't know in what aspect it was. Maybe
they fight bare fisted, maybe it was in reference to sparring, etc.

No bad juju intended bruddah. All I was saying is that most people considers banging..well,....banging!:D

[lost_tortoise]

Funny...where I came up, banger referred to someone with gang affiliation. Generally, you would not want to fight with a "banger" because the repercussions were often REAL bad.:shooter: :shooter: ;)

[kenpo3631]

Originally posted by lost_tortoise
Funny...where I came up, banger referred to someone with gang affiliation. Generally, you would not want to fight with a "banger" because the repercussions were often REAL bad.:shooter: :shooter: ;)

You mean they gave up muzzle loaders for MAC-10's, what is this world coming too, next thing you know they'll be stringing up them thar electric candles.....:rofl:

Just kiddin man...

[Matt Stone]

In Yiliquan, we call "banging" training.

We walk beginners through their techniques to teach them how to move, how to coordinate things, etc., but when it comes time to face down against a partner, the partner attacks like he means it...

You either get out of the way, run away, move to neutralize the attack, or get hit. Those are the only options available, and the first two aren't really options either... :D

Chufeng was demonstrating one of our wrist locks, and the preliminary movement has a slap to the face incorporated into it. Much to the surprise of everyone in class (including me) he flat out ***** slapped me. Full bore, big smack, loud sound of flesh on flesh. Pretty cool, really, because doing that most surely distracts the opponent, making the wrist lock extremely easy to apply!

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
Chufeng was demonstrating one of our wrist locks, and the preliminary movement has a slap to the face incorporated into it. Much to the surprise of everyone in class (including me) he flat out ***** slapped me. Full bore, big smack, loud sound of flesh on flesh. Pretty cool, really, because doing that most surely distracts the opponent, making the wrist lock extremely easy to apply!

Man, you guys are OK, with me. :D One question for you though. I haven't quite figured out who the head instructor is?

[Matt Stone]

Head Instructor? They teach that? Wow. Wonder where I might find a school in need of a demo-dummy... :ladysman:

Sifu Starr (a.k.a. Yilisifu) is the Headmaster of Yiliquan and the current Chairman of the Yiliquan Association.

Sifu Hachey (a.k.a. Chufeng) is the Senior Instructor for our club and is the Regional Chairman for the PacNW chapter of the Yiliquan Association.

I am just the current dojo *****/crash test dummy for our club... :D

I like to get hit, I take a hit pretty well, and am always ready to pop back up for another go - unless Chufeng unleashes the Capitol Hill ***** Slap or RyuShiKan hits me in the liver, in which cases I may stay on the floor for a while...

Anybody on MT, anybody at all, if they are in this area, are welcome to come and have a go... ;)

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

[Dan Anderson]

Originally posted by Kirk
I've heard this term used, e.g. "he's a good banger" or "we like
to get together and bang" often. What does it mean? Can you
give examples?


It means the guy can lay the wood to someone's butt. Mike Tyson was a good banger before he went off the deep end.

Yours,
Dan Anderson

[jeffkyle]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
In Yiliquan, we call "banging" training.

Much to the surprise of everyone in class (including me) he flat out ***** slapped me. Full bore, big smack, loud sound of flesh on flesh. Pretty cool, really, because doing that most surely distracts the opponent, making the wrist lock extremely easy to apply!

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

Nothing like a good slap to the face to get your attention and get the blood flowing...and to Piss you off! :)

[Jill666]

I love banging! :D

I haven't heard this term applied in this manner- in fact, we don't generally use a term for doing techniques with enthusiasm. In my dojo there are some who like to go, and a few who play with care. Those of us who like contact know by now when to crank it up :armed:

[Matt Stone]

Originally posted by jeffkyle
Nothing like a good slap to the face to get your attention and get the blood flowing...and to Piss you off! :)

Nah, doesn't piss me off a bit... Surprising, to be sure (I'm learnign to expect it now, though), but it doesn't upset me. It's just training!



Originally posted by Jill666
I love banging!

Don't we all!!! :D :D :D

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

[jeffkyle]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
[B]Nah, doesn't piss me off a bit... Surprising, to be sure (I'm learnign to expect it now, though), but it doesn't upset me. It's just training!

I agree! For the sake of training it is alright! But it definitely strikes a nerve...even when you know it is coming! ;)

[headkick]

Originally posted by Dan Anderson
It means the guy can lay the wood to someone's butt. Mike Tyson was a good banger before he went off the deep end.

Yours,
Dan Anderson

Man, that is just an unfortunate choice of words. This guy was in prison, remember.:eek:

[Dan Anderson]

Whoops! Unintentional but whoops!
Dan

[Billy Lear]

Originally posted by Kirk
I've heard this term used, e.g. "he's a good banger" or "we like
to get together and bang" often. What does it mean? Can you
give examples?

At first, I thought it meant someone that knew how to really dish
it out, but without killing you on tech lines. Then I thought it
meant they were really good at sparring. What does it mean?

You're kidding? You really don't know? Cmon Kirk... Read Robbo's post... it's like... right on the money. :rolleyes:

[Rob_Broad]

I agree with Robbo, banging is the culmination of good technique, power, ability, and havin fun hitting and being hit. It can be in a a technique line or sparring. There is no better feeling than the endorphin rush you get from a good class when everybody ripped off the techniques on each other like there is no tommorrow. Anyone can hit and be hit and walk away with lumps and bruises, banging goes beyond just the physicality, it becomes transcendent and addictive. When a person has truly banged they long for their next fix.

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
Sifu Starr (a.k.a. Yilisifu) is the Headmaster of Yiliquan and the current Chairman of the Yiliquan Association.

Sifu Hachey (a.k.a. Chufeng) is the Senior Instructor for our club and is the Regional Chairman for the PacNW chapter of the Yiliquan Association.

Ok, cool thanks for the info. You guys had me confused on this Yiliquan thing. I've never heard of your art before so let me slide by a little bit.


I am just the current dojo *****/crash test dummy for our club... :D

Every school needs at least one;) .


unless Chufeng unleashes the Capitol Hill ***** Slap or RyuShiKan hits me in the liver, in which cases I may stay on the floor for a while...

You guys are cool. Isn't RyuShiKan in Japan? Do you travel back and forth to train or is he here in the States?

[Matt Stone]

RyuShiKan isn't a Yiliquan student, though I suspect in the cosmic sense of things he is just as Yili as any Yili boxer...

RyuShiKan does Taika Seiyu Oyata's Ryu Te Karate. I had the wonderful honor and opportunity to not only train with him, but to be his friend. I only trained with him for a very, very short time in Japan, though I hope to return late this summer to visit with, drink with, carouse with, and "ohyeahbytheway" train with him. :D

The Yiliquan folks on MT are Yilisifu, Chufeng, ECYili, Yilijinglei, Wormtail, Erkki and lil' ol' me. I know that several other Yili seniors lurk here occasionally, but they haven't posted that I am aware of...

Hell, one of them thought that Arnisador was me! Go figure...

Gambarimasu.
:asian: