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kalel21j7
05-10-2009, 07:32 PM
Hi ladies and Gents
I remember in my early eagle claw period where we learned rooting. I always wanted to know what people always felt about rooting in self defence vs trying something more fluid.

Thems Fighting Words
05-10-2009, 07:38 PM
Depends on whether you're an Australian or not. :angel:

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

mook jong man
05-10-2009, 08:13 PM
Personally speaking , I love to practice rooting. :EG:

geezer
05-10-2009, 08:31 PM
Personally speaking , I love to practice rooting. :EG:

Good lord! What's with all the threads on rooting? The last one "Do you have a root?" (courtesy of Futsaoman) still has me chuckling. But hey, half the population of the earth has a root, and if you have it, you'll use it, right? Not just Aussies. What about the lirics to that old American favorite, "Take me out to the ball game"? Did you ever "root, root, root for the home team?" If not, I'd say it's time to get busy.

JadecloudAlchemist
05-10-2009, 09:24 PM
Yes Rooting is practical.

my teacher was showing the differences between having root and not having root and how much of a difference it can be in a fight.

If you do not know how to root your balance can be taken easier which will cause your opponent to take advantage. Having root allows you to remain in posture and defend yourself in situations similar to being thrown in Ukemi(break falls and tumble rolls)

Having root when pushed off balance can redirect the energy and use it against your opponent.

Rooting is also good for your health because it allows for proper alignment among other things.

Xue Sheng
05-10-2009, 10:15 PM
No root, no power.

Rooting is good....incorrect rooting or being double weighted is bad.

grydth
05-10-2009, 10:27 PM
No root, no power.

Rooting is good....incorrect rooting or being double weighted is bad.

Sounds like T.T. Liang........:)

Xue Sheng
05-10-2009, 10:31 PM
Sounds like T.T. Liang........:)

Also Tung Ying Chieh and my Sifu too :)

pete
05-10-2009, 10:38 PM
Hi ladies and Gents
I remember in my early eagle claw period where we learned rooting. I always wanted to know what people always felt about rooting in self defence vs trying something more fluid.
When most people speak of rooting, they think downward... but that is only part of the story. sure roots of a tree go down, but they do not go straight down. in addition to going down, the roots spread out underground wider than the exposed branches of the tree.

Also, think of how a tree grows. as the roots go down deep and spread outward, the trunk grows thick and strong, while the branches grow upward and outward toward the sky. To remain nimble, the branches, twigs, and leaves are all pliable.

So when you practice your 'rooting', feel your presence going deep to the ground and outward across the floor... but also expanding upward through the top of your head & outward through your arms.

Once you feel a standing root, then practice maintaining that same root as you move. This will provide the balance of power and agility.

pete.

Cirdan
05-11-2009, 03:58 AM
There are few things more important than rooting.
Rooting is not opposed to being fluid.

jarrod
05-11-2009, 04:11 AM
There are few things more important than rooting.
Rooting is not opposed to being fluid.

i'd go so far as to say that being rooted is essential to being fluid.

jf

Jaspthecat
05-17-2009, 08:10 AM
The one thing I find with rooting is that it decreases my mobility.

I'm not skilled enough yet to root and find my centre whilst moving.

kaizasosei
05-17-2009, 12:00 PM
Rooting is the source of power. Rooting is balance as it is conciousness.
There are a few aspects to rooting. Some to do with the development of the body and stances. And other aspects of rooting that have more to do with movement/balance and conciousness.

Some hardcore japanese ma practitioners are so concerned with rooting that they frown on any sort of jumping in martial arts. I can understand to some degree, but i believe that rooting is relative and one can even be rooted in mid air.- It all depends on the task at hand.

j

dnovice
05-17-2009, 04:32 PM
everyone who wants power in strikes has root. Even boxer's who are known to be very fluid have root. Look at their feet and positioning when they throw knock out blows... hell even jabs.

The misconception is that if you are fluid you have no root. No. You can be fluid and have root.

dnovice
05-17-2009, 04:33 PM
one can even be rooted in mid airj

How do you root in midair?

seasoned
05-17-2009, 05:51 PM
In Okinawan goju, rooting is learned in Sanchin. Rooting is aligning the skeletal structure, stacking if you will, with gravity. It is a connection with the ground, that allows a free exchange of force down through the skeletal structure to the ground and also backup from the ground to your opponent. Some arts stress it, others don't, so it is conceivable that you could be doing it as part of your daily practice and not even give it a second thought, or be aware of it. Is it essential, no, you can still kick someones butt without it. Is it useful, I feel it makes the difference between a newbie and an advanced practitioner. Rather then labor your techniques and make them happen, rooting helps the flow of energy which in turn allows you to be fluid yet powerful at the same time.

kaizasosei
05-17-2009, 06:03 PM
Through the tanden! And through balance, timing etc. Like for example a flying side kick that hits its target.


Not going to get into all the making yourself heavier and lighter. Although there are some demonstrations where i have seen those kinds of things.
I have seen takedabudo demonstrations where the guy gets picked up by four or six people, then at a given moment he sortof shuffles and puts all his power in one spot and the whole lot of people holding him over their heads falls down-. sure some of it is show, but it does have something to it. I saw this demonstration by takeo nishikido, but the video is no longer available. Those were some slightly overreceptive ukes, but the principles were understandable.
come to think of it i think i have also seen Toheisenseis clips displaying such things...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kcql70T6B8&feature=related
basically, i think that one should always have good rooting and be able to avoid injuries.

j


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chinto
05-18-2009, 02:05 AM
In Okinawan goju, rooting is learned in Sanchin. Rooting is aligning the skeletal structure, stacking if you will, with gravity. It is a connection with the ground, that allows a free exchange of force down through the skeletal structure to the ground and also backup from the ground to your opponent. Some arts stress it, others don't, so it is conceivable that you could be doing it as part of your daily practice and not even give it a second thought, or be aware of it. Is it essential, no, you can still kick someones butt without it. Is it useful, I feel it makes the difference between a newbie and an advanced practitioner. Rather then labor your techniques and make them happen, rooting helps the flow of energy which in turn allows you to be fluid yet powerful at the same time.


yep most arts teach it, even if the student does not realize it.