View Full Version : Commonly found martial arts that are not sports based
DoubleZ711
03-19-2009, 10:53 PM
I am trying to gather a list of different kinds of martial arts that can be found in The United States which are not based on sporting and competition, and more focused on self defense. So far all I know of is Krav-Maga and Eskrima. As far as I know, karate, taekwondo, and muay thai are all based on competition for the most part.
I want this list so I can research into whats available and what would best be suited for me.
searcher
03-19-2009, 11:24 PM
Karate and TKD are not all for sport purposes andmany schools don't push sport at all. As for Muay Thai, it does have a pretty heavy sport influence, but there are those that do it without the sport and are not sport focused.
And there are competitions for Escrima, it is called WEKAF. Plus there are a great many of the KM guys who compete in MMA competitons.
This may not be what you were looking for, but I thought it was important to bring these things up.
Jade Tigress
03-20-2009, 06:28 AM
Well of course I have to note my art, lol, though there are many others to add to the list. We are not sport or competition focused at all. Strictly self defense. Southern Praying Mantis.
Also, what Searcher said. :)
bluekey88
03-20-2009, 06:30 AM
I also support what searcher said...
Aikido (aside from the Tomiki style) is not sport/competition based. Most Hapkido, ditto. Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu and it's various offshoots.
Peace,
Erik
seasoned
03-20-2009, 06:53 AM
Okinawan GoJu, not for sport. But I suppose if someone tried hard enough they could make a sport out of it. But, with all the low kicks, after a while, there would be very few left to compete. J
Daniel Sullivan
03-20-2009, 08:46 AM
I am trying to gather a list of different kinds of martial arts that can be found in The United States which are not based on sporting and competition, and more focused on self defense. So far all I know of is Krav-Maga and Eskrima. As far as I know, karate, taekwondo, and muay thai are all based on competition for the most part.
I want this list so I can research into whats available and what would best be suited for me.
You are looking at this from the wrong direction. The sport/competition is based on martial arts, not the other way around. Find a school that focuses on SD. The art is less important.
Daniel
MBuzzy
03-20-2009, 08:51 AM
Depends on the school. There is no standard answer for any style or art. Check out a few schools, check out a few instructors. then you'll know.
stone_dragone
03-20-2009, 09:00 AM
As an Ignorant White Person (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74425) who teaches a "bland art" (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1143106#post1143106)and has practiced those bland arts since you were still (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74010) sucking on your mothers tit, I have to invite you to either get some sleep and dream your little dreams of the ultimate contact martial art before you go to Math class in the morning or get off the computer and go gain some experience.
Having claimed to be a former Golden Gloves boxer (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73880), I can't imagine how in such a short time you've let yourself go to the point that you can't get off the couch, so I am led to believe that the only thing stopping you is...uhm...you.
I don't wish to be rude, but the tone of your posts almost exclusively sound like trolling. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, go pick a class and try it out. Good luck.
clfsean
03-20-2009, 09:05 AM
I am trying to gather a list of different kinds of martial arts that can be found in The United States which are not based on sporting and competition, and more focused on self defense. So far all I know of is Krav-Maga and Eskrima. As far as I know, karate, taekwondo, and muay thai are all based on competition for the most part.
<begin soapbox...>
What you need to do first is go to a local school, start taking lessons & grow a little bit in maturity within the MA world. You know jackshit right now except for aggrevating people with your comments & perceived attitude.<soapbox interuptus...>
I want this list so I can research into whats available and what would best be suited for me.
<soapbox continuation...>
What's best suited for you is what's available for you to begin the trip down the road. After you've gone a couple of years down the road & you've spent time listening & learning, not spouting off at the mouth, then you'll be in a better position to see exactly what is suited best for you.</end soapbox...>
as an ignorant white person (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74425) who teaches a "bland art" (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1143106#post1143106)and has practiced those bland arts since you were still (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74010) sucking on your mothers tit, i have to invite you to either get some sleep and dream your little dreams of the ultimate contact martial art before you go to math class in the morning or get off the computer and go gain some experience.
Having claimed to be a former golden gloves boxer (http://martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73880), i can't imagine how in such a short time you've let yourself go to the point that you can't get off the couch, so i am led to believe that the only thing stopping you is...uhm...you.
I don't wish to be rude, but the tone of your posts almost exclusively sound like trolling. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, go pick a class and try it out. Good luck.
qft!
just2kicku
03-20-2009, 09:48 AM
I think that all MA's are for self defense that eventually evolved to using them in sport, but they're still self defense. As far as TKD being sport based, did anyone tell that to the ROK guys!
bowser666
03-20-2009, 10:04 AM
Not to be rude man, but I seriously would do a little research before posting questions liek you have been. You come off as very ignorant. Is someone telling you this information that you half put into your posts ? It really sounds like you have some really distorted preconceptions of things. Try google first next time :)
Xue Sheng
03-20-2009, 10:13 AM
Commonly found martial arts that are not sports based...... list making you are.... checking twice are you :yoda:
hmmm....let me think...... there are a lot of MA styles out there.... pick one (http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-martial-arts)
Daniel Sullivan
03-20-2009, 10:23 AM
I think that all MA's are for self defense that eventually evolved to using them in sport, but they're still self defense. As far as TKD being sport based, did anyone tell that to the ROK guys!
Oh, come on! We all know that sport karate was such a huge thing in the late forties that the Korean military just had to jump in and create a new sport based martial art. They just had the army practice it in combat so that they'd be better when they competed during peacetime.:p
Daniel
searcher
03-20-2009, 12:10 PM
Sport started as a way for MAists to test themselves against other MAists with some type of control and structure. It was about seeing if you could do to an unwilling person what you had been training to do against the BGs. Before the tourney, it was more of a "back-alley street brawl" that often hadpeople getting screwed up or worse. Not to mention, that it let you see what would and would not work.
Daniel Sullivan
03-20-2009, 12:15 PM
Methinks the OP wants to be teh d34d1y for mere sport.
Daniel
just2kicku
03-20-2009, 12:39 PM
Sport started as a way for MAists to test themselves against other MAists with some type of control and structure. It was about seeing if you could do to an unwilling person what you had been training to do against the BGs. Before the tourney, it was more of a "back-alley street brawl" that often hadpeople getting screwed up or worse. Not to mention, that it let you see what would and would not work.
I know in the art of Kajukenbo, it was "street" tested first. I still see a lot of Kaju guys at tourneys and it doesn't mean it's a sport.
And what Searcher said.
just2kicku
03-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Oh, come on! We all know that sport karate was such a huge thing in the late forties that the Korean military just had to jump in and create a new sport based martial art. They just had the army practice it in combat so that they'd be better when they competed during peacetime.:p
Daniel
Touche, Daniel.
searcher
03-20-2009, 03:02 PM
I know in the art of Kajukenbo, it was "street" tested first. I still see a lot of Kaju guys at tourneys and it doesn't mean it's a sport.
I remember the days of bloody tourneys. It was not a big deal back then. If people whined about someone drawing blood they got ran out. The good ole days of full-force kicks(groin included), minimal protection(most was optional), and crazy, grimey bastards that would beat you down rather than look at you. I miss the old days.:vu:
Nolerama
03-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Wow. The OP has found a fresh, new way to kick a dead horse. Thanks!
Xue Sheng
03-20-2009, 03:22 PM
It gets a
:deadhorse:deadhorse:deadhorse:deadhorse
On the scale
:D
just2kicku
03-20-2009, 03:28 PM
I remember the days of bloody tourneys. It was not a big deal back then. If people whined about someone drawing blood they got ran out. The good ole days of full-force kicks(groin included), minimal protection(most was optional), and crazy, grimey bastards that would beat you down rather than look at you. I miss the old days.:vu:
Don't forget back leg sweeps and shots to the throat counted. There was no dq for drawing blood. Aahh yes, the good ole days.
Brandon Fisher
03-20-2009, 03:43 PM
Someone mentioned Okinawan Goju Ryu not being a sport well let's expand that. Okinawan karate in general is not sport based. Shorin Ryu, Uechi Ryu, Isshin Ryu among other smaller styles are very effective when done the way they were intended. Shito Ryu though technically japanese was founded by an Okinawan and still holds those Okinawan karate techniques.
All styles can be softened up for sport use for the purpose of safety, I truly believe if someone teaches solely for sport purposes and they created a style for that purpose it is not a martial art.
All styles whether, karate, kung fu, kenpo, escrima, arnis, kali and so many others were created for real life fully effective self-defense.
blindsage
03-20-2009, 03:53 PM
I think we should ignore the OP from now on since he seems to just start threads to push buttons and then never participates in the discussion.
:bs::feedtroll
chinto
03-23-2009, 02:32 AM
Okinawan GoJu, not for sport. But I suppose if someone tried hard enough they could make a sport out of it. But, with all the low kicks, after a while, there would be very few left to compete. J
Yep, and most of the Okinawan Karate styles are similar, or at least the older ones!
they are : Shobayashi Shorin Ryu, Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu, Kobayashi Shorin Ryu, Matsumura Seito, Goju Ryu, and Uechi Ryu.
those styles are Not sport orianted or sports based if taught even closely to properly.
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