I don't know what to make of this parody site (http://www.ashidakim.com/).

I found this (http://www.ashidakim.com/dojopress/catalogbk41.htm) PG-13 link amusing.

Are you sure thats a parody site? seemed a bit large to me... Dunno. :shrug:

Originally posted by Kaith Rustaz
Are you sure thats a parody site? seemed a bit large to me... Dunno.

Honestly, I wasn't sure until I saw the amorous adventures link. Then I figured it must be.

If I'm wrong, please don't tell me.

Oh my....Ashida Kim.

Believe it or not, he takes himself quite seriously. Is he affiliated in any way, shape or form with real Ninpo? Not a chance..

Everything he states is wrong. He basically tried to hitch on to the "Ninja 80's Boom" bandwagon. He tends to target kids with some mis-direction in their life...and unfortunately they fall into it.

The guy is an extreme nutcase. A few years back, I sent him an email asking for lineage references (for a good chuckle), his response was less the cordial ;)

He's written some books about "ninjitsu"...pretty commical stuff. Definately great stuff to read outloud at parties with beer and whatnot. Makes for good laughs.

Every time I went to the bookstore with my buds, I'd wander off to the MA section (alright, sports section, but that's where they are, dammit!) and my friends would eventually wander over to look for the latest Ashida Kim book.

It's a pity they weren't classified as comedy...they would have sold much better and proven much more useful that way.

I heard he was based out of Tampa, or the Tampa area. Why does that area have so many goofs?

Cthulhu

His site says he studied under Count Dante--I can't believe it's serious. I knew the Ashida Kim Ninja books were an attempt to cash in on the fad. Can this site truly be serious?

Biography:
http://www.ashidakim.com/dojopress/msg1.html

Oh man... I thought the name sounded familiar.... Double checked my "maybe buy list" He's got a few on there.

:rofl:

This saves me some $$

Count Dante...:D

Ashida teaches something called "Kata Dante"...which is killing your opponent 34092384234 different ways in 10 seconds or some such nonsense. I've seen a moving gif of the kata...and nothing at all would be anywhere effective.

Unfortunately he's just a little boy that never decided to grow up.

Dammit, I used to know Kim's real name. If I remember correctly, he isn't the least bit Asian. I'll see what I can dig up.

Cthulhu

This is from RMA, so get a few grains of salt:

Ashida Kim = Christopher Hunter

As of 1997, he was operating out of Lakeland, FL.

Apparently, back before the name change and at the beginning of the 'ninja boom', he wrote a book under his real name called The Ninja Training Manual or somesuch. Hold on. I'll see if I can find anything on that...

...searching...

...got it.

Okay, Ninja Training Manual was written in the mid-90's. I think he was trying to write under his real name in a pathetic attempt to get some credibility. After all, how many 'koga ryu' masters do you know with a Japanese first name and Korean last name and don't have a single drop of Asian blood in them?

It's so sad, it's funny. And vice-versa.

Cthulhu

PS - check out the library forum for a link I posted there.

After all, how many 'koga ryu' masters do you know with a Japanese first name and Korean last name and don't have a single drop of Asian blood in them?

How many Koga ryu masters are there that aren't dead.....along with the school itself? :D

The Koga ryu densho and makimono are in a museum in Tokyo. Doesn't sound too "alive" to me.

Fujita sensei was the last Soke of Koga ryu. Fujita sensei, his seniors *and* the school of Koga ryu died in 1969 from a car wreck.

I've heard the name Fujita connected to Koga ryu before, but didn't know that bit of info. THANKS! :D

Are there any reputable resources (in English) on the Koga Ryu? Particularly, history, philosphy, and differences from modern day ninjutsu.

When I was living in Japan, all the movies and cartoons with ninjutsu talked about 'Iga this' and 'Koga that', and I've always been interested in factual information along these lines.

Cthulhu

An excellent historical article on Koga ryu was written by Don Roley -- Click here (http://www.netxn.com/~khouse/kogapart1.htm)

Thanks a lot! I'll check it out tomorrow...er...later today. Had a 2.5 hour drive today, and I need my shut-eye.

Thanks again,

Cthulhu

Originally posted by Jay Bell
Ashida teaches something called "Kata Dante"...which is killing your opponent 34092384234 different ways in 10 seconds

So you're saying that he's teaching kenpo? :D

I've seen a moving .gif of part of it on the referenced web site. I don't understand how he gets from Black Dragon kung fu to him being a ninja.

If it is serious, how can one explain the sexually explicit "Amorous Adventures of Ashida Kim" tape? It's beyond the pale.

This is too much:

$10,000 Challenge (http://www.ashidakim.com/10k.html)

Oh I wish I had some money!

Cthulhu

Oh, it gets better! Just check out the whole site:

Ashida Kim (snicker) (http://www.AshidaKim.com/)

The links are just as funny, if not more so!

:rofl:
:lol:
:D

Cthulhu

I, personally, cannot believe this stuff is still "news" to some people.

Pardon my French, I can be fluent when necessary, someone on a forum in a distant galaxy once referred to "Ashida Kim" as, "I Sh*tta Kitten" and I just thought that described some of the stuff that surrounds him nicely. :D

Well we haven't done enough yet to get on the official ***** list. We must try harder.

Oh, boy.

Well, I'd take the challenge, if I had the money......and a lobotomy before-hand.

What it DOESN'T say on there is how the Challenger can be declared winner....says lots of ways that Kim can.

Also, interesting point about all his "alley" fights that he won, only to have the loser say how he was beaten. So, if Kim is taken up on his challenge and loses, will he willingly sign something legal that admits defeat? I didn't see that anywhere....

What a goon.

Oh, wait. Shouldn't have said that.....now the ninjas are gonna get me. I'd better practice up my moves.....time to rent TENCHU from BlockBuster Video again and get my reflexes up!!!

:rolleyes:

Peace--

First he tries to get $25,000 from you as an "appearance" fee.

Second is his "appearance" fee of $10,000 cause he's a pro ya know ;)

Third he figures you won't try to do it I guess :shrug:

Fourth he probably gets half of the gate reciepts.

Fifth "Ashida Kim will be declared the winner in the event of a 5-second pinfall, submission by the opponent using matte or pat-out, if the opponent is unable to answer the bell, if the opponent is knocked out or rendered unconscious by a choke or stranglehold for a standard referee's 10-count, if the Ringside Physician determines he is unable to continue, if he fails to appear for the match, or is disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct. No judges, no holds barred, last man standing is the Champ."
So who picks the ref, yeah he does I'll bet he won't agree to it otherwise

And his last statement "So, if you want a piece of my arse, come on up and get you a bite, 'cause I got plenty.", must mean he's got a big butt and will try to sit on you :rofl:


:asian:

Yeah, I know the whole Ashida Kim stuff is old news. I just got shocked when I got into his forums and discovered that he really has a devoted fanbase. Loyal belivers that stick up for him and call themselves 'ninjas'. As someone stated above in this thread, a lot of these loyals sound much like misdirected children (there is talk about satan and stuff like that). In the middle of everything Ashida Kim steps in and hurls insults to those objecting him.

I also read about the Ninja Temple 2001 where Ashida Kim tells about their summer ninja camp. If you got nothing better to do, read the quote... ;)

"We aren't looking for Kung Fu Killers here," he said. "We have shown you the Dance of Death so that you may defend yourself. Now we shall teach you the Dance of Life." He performed several magic tricks and instructed the class in the technique of Kasumi, which means, "to cloud the mind." By these means any attacker can be overcome.

The trick is to "make him blink."

In that instant, you duck away to cover and vanish, or escape by running away. Thereby achieving Ninja Invisibility. To practice this, one simulates a "metsubishi-ko," or Black Egg, filled with blinding powders, an old Ninja trick. The practice method is to throw a dry washcloth, which flies aerodynamically much like a handful of sand, an improvised version of the same technique.

Take a look at some of his ninjas...

Ninjas allowing themselves to be photographed (according to author Kim) (http://www.ashidakim.com/camp_pic.jpg)

And the new ninja temple...

Ninja temple (http://www.ashidakim.com/house_angled.jpg)

I love the "ninja" in the Gung Fu shirt. I seriously don't know what to think about this guy. I mean he seems to take himself seriously but he really doesn't present serious material.


Tony

I think he just really likes cosplay and is too lazy to study real ninjutsu.

To put it bluntly this guy's a quack. Shamelessly he carries on and I see he now promoted himself to SOKE ....lol wow. Its guys like him that makes all the X kans and TSD look bad. If you don't believe me when I say he's a quack take a gander at this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F3tJHuZDIo

I'm not sure if he's a quack or just a charlatan. I'm inclined to think he knows he's fleecing the public and just doesn't care.

I haven't laughed that hard in some time.....Thanks for the Youtube clip!

I'm not sure if he's a quack or just a charlatan. I'm inclined to think he knows he's fleecing the public and just doesn't care.

I would agree! He has to know. :)

I agree as well, he must know!?!?!?

Still laughing at the clip

I just watched the clip the floating is freaking great someone must submit that to americas funniest home videos.:wuguns::btg:

I must say I was wrong this shows just how great he is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xxzppVT1QA

:bazook:

Man I love these smiles

I must say I was wrong this shows just how great he is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xxzppVT1QA

:bazook:

Man I love these smiles

That was about as exciting as this....

3GJOVPjhXMY

I almost hate to keep this going but after Bigs post I feel the need

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TSnpwx45Q&feature=related

I almost hate to keep this going but after Bigs post I feel the need

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TSnpwx45Q&feature=related

Damn, I was just about to do that one! I will leave it at that! :p

This stuff is too funny!!!!
To bad some people believe this stuff is real???? :xtrmshock

I have to say that I've not really seen any Ashida Kim video other than his 'talking head' stuff where he witters on in a semi-convincing fashion about the basic tenets that underpin any martial art.

Watching the levitation film tho' ... well ... I'm awed. Why have I been wasting all these years studying crackpot Chinese and Japanese martial arts when I should've been giving money to him :lol:?

There are seriously people who buy into this stuff? Where're Penn and Teller when you need them? Perhaps someone should drop them a line?

I just love those clips
It is always a good day when I can laugh

He's such an idiot. I just watched the one where he sticks his fingers in the squirrel trap.

theres no need to flat out bash the man, so what if hes a goofball? having two or three threads devoted to his goofyness isn't going to change him, his site, or his students.

You've got this colander filled with tomatoes, and you're just standing there shaking it back and forth, and all of a sudden you realize you're in a movie theater, and people are telling you "will you sit the hell down and be quiet, we're trying to watch a movie here". It's not the quiet type of tomatoes, it's the ones that go "RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!" when you least expect it.
Then you peel one of them open, and you'll often find that there's this little guy sitting in there who's trying to make it look like he isn't sitting in there, he's like "no, don't mind me, I'm just sitting in my office, counting my keychains and minding my own business..." And so you're like "well, looks like I'm going to have to bring this one back", and so you go back to the store and say that you want to return the tomato because there's this little guy sitting inside who's trying to make it look like he isn't really sitting there. And they're like "and who are you...?"
And you're like "who, me? No, I'm not here..."

what can I say about Ashida Kim other than he has made a hell of a lot more money selling books than I have

You've got this colander filled with tomatoes, and you're just standing there shaking it back and forth, and all of a sudden you realize you're in a movie theater, and people are telling you "will you sit the hell down and be quiet, we're trying to watch a movie here". It's not the quiet type of tomatoes, it's the ones that go "RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!" when you least expect it.
Then you peel one of them open, and you'll often find that there's this little guy sitting in there who's trying to make it look like he isn't sitting in there, he's like "no, don't mind me, I'm just sitting in my office, counting my keychains and minding my own business..." And so you're like "well, looks like I'm going to have to bring this one back", and so you go back to the store and say that you want to return the tomato because there's this little guy sitting inside who's trying to make it look like he isn't really sitting there. And they're like "and who are you...?"
And you're like "who, me? No, I'm not here..."



GEB have to hand it to you you are the posting king lol.

what can I say about Ashida Kim other than he has made a hell of a lot more money selling books than I have

You think the guy in the loonie bin who believes he's Napoleon is PO-ed because he doesn't get paid for running France?

lol

i'm completely speechless after watching those videos. the 'ninja magic' video was the icing on the cake. i can't believe he has followers at all.

I have to say that I've not really seen any Ashida Kim video other than his 'talking head' stuff where he witters on in a semi-convincing fashion about the basic tenets that underpin any martial art.

Watching the levitation film tho' ... well ... I'm awed. Why have I been wasting all these years studying crackpot Chinese and Japanese martial arts when I should've been giving money to him :lol:?

There are seriously people who buy into this stuff? Where're Penn and Teller when you need them? Perhaps someone should drop them a line?
LOL! Yep, even to this very day, there are people that buy into this line of crap. You'd be suprised............. Oh well. Most budoka usually end up with the teacher that they deserve.

That was about as exciting as this....

3GJOVPjhXMY

Dude, that is freaking HILARIOUS!

I've heard of this guy in the past, but really knew nothing of him. That levitation video is absolutely unbelievable, I don't know what to think after having seen it. How could anyone possibly look at that and think this guy is anything but a con artist?! It's so obvious, and the one witht he "light saber fight"...WTF?! Did you see the comment "does that guy have cerebral palsy?"

I'd like to see this guy try and 'ninja up' any of the 1st Dan's where I train. :lol:

I've heard of this guy in the past, but really knew nothing of him. That levitation video is absolutely unbelievable, I don't know what to think after having seen it...

This puts me to mind of the short-lived natural law party, which ran many candidates in the federal election here years. The co-founder of the Canadian branch of the party was the late illusionist Doug Henning. During the campaign they touted healing benefits of Yogic Flying, which seemed to require a lot of exertion. Apparently, the party also fielded candidates in the US and the UK.

Yogic flying in action: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NHwhGUo90jw

The Natural Law Party of Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law_Party_of_Canada

I'd like to see this guy try and 'ninja up' any of the 1st Dan's where I train. :lol:
That's what the hell i'm talkin' about! Assuming that your talking about Ashita Kim, unbelievably, this guy has "dojo"( if you wanna call it that) even as far away as Germany and South Africa. Even though, you gotta give the man credit. He's been able to dupe people with his con for the better part of 20 years.
This man would get himself KILLED trying to dance with someone from 'Buj'.

It is really ashame with all the waza and what not in the Buj we still keep coming back to AK I know I am as bad as the next guy. I wish we could drop the smoke and HE would dissappear but not so lucky.:banghead:

[quote=Cthulhu;6297]This is from RMA, so get a few grains of salt:

Ashida Kim = Christopher Hunter

As of 1997, he was operating out of Lakeland, FL.

Apparently, back before the name change and at the beginning of the 'ninja boom', he wrote a book under his real name called The Ninja Training Manual or somesuch. Hold on. I'll see if I can find anything on that...

...searching...
...got it.

Okay, Ninja Training Manual was written in the mid-90's. I think he was trying to write under his real name in a pathetic attempt to get some credibility. After all, how many 'koga ryu' masters do you know with a Japanese first name and Korean last name and don't have a single drop of Asian blood in them?

It's so sad, it's funny. And vice-versa.
Cthulhu

Christopher Hunter wrote a book in 1980 called The Book of the Ninja. It was renamed The Ninja training manual : self-defense and fighting secrets in 1996 but it has absolutely nothing to do with Ninjutsu.

"Ashida Kim = Christopher Hunter"

********* also claims that Ashida Kim is also know as Radford Davis.

"As of 1997 he was operating out of Lakeland, Fl."

Just my luck that this guys operates in my area...but actually he's based out of Lake Alfred which is only 20 minutes from Lakeland. I once encountered an individual named Pedro who was in jail here and there and sometimes comes to visit at the jail back when I was working as a Detention Deputy for Polk County. I once noticed he had a NIN kanji on the back of his neck and I asked him what that meant. He said that he studied Ninjutsu or should I say Ninjitsu...lol. I asked him who his instructor was but I don't remember the name but he said that his instructor was trained by "Grandmaster Ashida Kim" All I could say was...WOW!

That bag over his head was a great idea, he should wear it at all times.
Still moves like a yellow belt who is too full of himself after his first grading tho.

:karate::machgunr::overkill:

Kim is nothing but a mouthboxing blowhard who has visions of grandeur. He is no ninja anything as he never trained in an actual Ninpo Ryu Ha but made up his training.

In one of this early books his black belt gave it away. On it was the Korean characters for Tae Kwon Do.

Enough said.

In one of this early books his black belt gave it away. On it was the Korean characters for Tae Kwon Do.

Enough said.

LOL!

That hurts, hehe.

This is the thread that never ends
Yes it goes on and on, my friend...

This is the thread that never ends
Yes it goes on and on, my friend...

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