Master Michael Wong

[AceHBK]

I have seen this guy all over youtube.
Any thoughts of him and his techniques?

I have tried to google but can't find much in terms of background.

[Sandstorm]

Found this little article. Hope it helps.

http://www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/pages.php?pageid=41

[bs10927]

I have seen this guy all over youtube.
Any thoughts of him and his techniques?

I have tried to google but can't find much in terms of background.

he doesn't seem to want to give up his lineage.
i have a dvd of his. it's fun to watch but couldn't learn anything cuz it keeps freezing. lol

[Yoshiyahu]

I believe he is Yip Man lineage...But i believe Wing Chn Archives has some info on him.



I have seen this guy all over youtube.
Any thoughts of him and his techniques?

I have tried to google but can't find much in terms of background.

[mook jong man]

I believe he is Yip Man lineage...But i believe Wing Chn Archives has some info on him.

Wasn't he the bloke we saw a while back in some other thread doing the Chum Kiu , and I said he was up and down like a yo yo .
Because each step he took his body went up and down .

Which in our lineage is a very big no no. What I have seen of him , I'm not impressed and the lack of detail about who he actually learnt off is a bit suss if you ask me.

[Yoshiyahu]

Hey. your right. that is the same guy.


Oh Michael Wong doesn't say who his lineage is.


http://www.wcarchive.com/html/sifus/wing-chun-sifus-other.htm#Hung_Fai_Yi_and_Other_Lineages


Scroll down to Michael Wong.



Wasn't he the bloke we saw a while back in some other thread doing the Chum Kiu , and I said he was up and down like a yo yo .
Because each step he took his body went up and down .

Which in our lineage is a very big no no. What I have seen of him , I'm not impressed and the lack of detail about who he actually learnt off is a bit suss if you ask me.

[mook jong man]

Hey. your right. that is the same guy.


Oh Michael Wong doesn't say who his lineage is.


http://www.wcarchive.com/html/sifus/wing-chun-sifus-other.htm#Hung_Fai_Yi_and_Other_Lineages


Scroll down to Michael Wong.

Yeah , I looked at the link and it says " He wishes not to say " .
Which is nice and convenient don't you think ?

[skinters]

he has quite a succesfull dvd franchise,nothing wong (sorry wrong) with that and i got a dvd of his gathering dust somewhere.

he comes through with quite powerfull direct attacks,and uses a lot of the wingchun techniques quite well on times.

saying that,he seems to have jumped on the wingchun dvd bandwagon,he obviously knows a bit about wingchun,but would hazzard a guess he is mostly self taught.

[bs10927]

Wasn't he the bloke we saw a while back in some other thread doing the Chum Kiu , and I said he was up and down like a yo yo .
Because each step he took his body went up and down .

Which in our lineage is a very big no no. What I have seen of him , I'm not impressed and the lack of detail about who he actually learnt off is a bit suss if you ask me.

that's a no no for us too. now i'm curious. gonna look for the chum kiu clip.

[Yoshiyahu]

Michael Wong also has some Jeet Kune Do DVD's as well.




he has quite a succesfull dvd franchise,nothing wong (sorry wrong) with that and i got a dvd of his gathering dust somewhere.

he comes through with quite powerfull direct attacks,and uses a lot of the wingchun techniques quite well on times.

saying that,he seems to have jumped on the wingchun dvd bandwagon,he obviously knows a bit about wingchun,but would hazzard a guess he is mostly self taught.

[skinters]

Michael Wong also has some Jeet Kune Do DVD's as well.

well to me jeet kune do was one mans personal expression of the martial arts so anything to do with it has changed and dont resemble the original concept,its become diluted.

micheal wong's geek kune do DVD 60 bucks

[Yoshiyahu]

Me I only watch his stuff on Youtube...if it aint on youtube I dont want it...But i would pay for Wong Shun Leung and Yip Man's movies.



well to me jeet kune do was one mans personal expression of the martial arts so anything to do with it has changed and dont resemble the original concept,its become diluted.

micheal wong's geek kune do DVD 60 bucks

[skinters]

Me I only watch his stuff on Youtube...if it aint on youtube I dont want it...But i would pay for Wong Shun Leung and Yip Man's movies.

wong shun leung,otherwise known as Gong Sau Wong (講手王), King of Talking Hands.when you look at all the old masters yip man etc , WSL stands out.they say he was a kind unassuming man,and his wingchun was not just legend but fact.a great fighter.it was only after his death that he now recieves the credit he deserves.they treat artists the same,the work only gets reconised after they are no longer with us .its not well known, that it was wong who give bruce his learning in WC and not how its commonly believed yipman.

[Yoshiyahu]

Yea I would pay $60 dollars for Wong Shun Leung books and videos.



wong shun leung,otherwise known as Gong Sau Wong (講手王), King of Talking Hands.when you look at all the old masters yip man etc , WSL stands out.they say he was a kind unassuming man,and his wingchun was not just legend but fact.a great fighter.

[skinters]

have you seen the science of in fighting,and look beyond the pointing finger ?.....both WSL

[AceHBK]

have you seen the science of in fighting,and look beyond the pointing finger ?.....both WSL

Are those books or DVD's?

[skinters]

the science of in fighting is dvd,look beyond the pointing finger is a book the author is David Peterson,who has been training in the Chinese martial arts since 1973. He became a student of Sifu Wong Shun Leung after traveling to honk kong. he is noted as being one of the only students of WSL to preserve his teachings,and philosophies.

[mook jong man]

I have a very old videotape of Wong Shun Leung that was shot when he visited Australia to do a seminar at our Adelaide academy . The tape was a copy of a copy , so the picture quality is bad in some parts and unwatchable in others .

But it is one of my treasured possessions along with a taped seminar of Sigung Tsui , I will have to try and get them converted to dvd or on the computer or something before they deteriorate any further .

On the tape WSL demonstrates Chum Kiu and a couple of applications , The Bil Gee and the application of the Bil Gee footwork to chase somebody who keeps trying to sidestep you . He also demonstrates kicking and how important it is to maintain the angle in the leg as you raise your kick and not chamber the leg.

[mook jong man]

the science of in fighting is dvd,look beyond the pointing finger is a book the author is David Peterson,who has been training in the Chinese martial arts since 1973. He became a student of Sifu Wong Shun Leung after traveling to honk kong. he is noted as being one of the only students of WSL to preserve his teachings,and philosophies.

It might interest you to know Skinters that I used to teach a guy when I was running a suburban branch in Sydney's outer suburbs , that lived next door to Barry Lee .

Sifu Barry Lee is also one of WSL's head men in Australia , and is married to WSL's daughter I believe. He was nicknamed " The Machine " by WSL who said that if you are hit by this man , you don't get back up .

Anyway I said to this student , what the hell are you doing learning off me for when you live next door to Barry Lee , I am a Neville Nobody compared to Barry Lee .

But the guy didn't seem to understand the importance of who he was living next to , it was sort of pre internet days and all that so he kept on learning with me . But that was years ago and I think Sifu Lee has set up an organisation in Germany now .

[Yoshiyahu]

Did you ever train with the guy?



It might interest you to know Skinters that I used to teach a guy when I was running a suburban branch in Sydney's outer suburbs , that lived next door to Barry Lee .

Sifu Barry Lee is also one of WSL's head men in Australia , and is married to WSL's daughter I believe. He was nicknamed " The Machine " by WSL who said that if you are hit by this man , you don't get back up .

Anyway I said to this student , what the hell are you doing learning off me for when you live next door to Barry Lee , I am a Neville Nobody compared to Barry Lee .

But the guy didn't seem to understand the importance of who he was living next to , it was sort of pre internet days and all that so he kept on learning with me . But that was years ago and I think Sifu Lee has set up an organisation in Germany now .

[mook jong man]

Did you ever train with the guy?

No unfortunately , but I sure would have liked to . It would of had to be in secret because I don't think my Sifu would have been too thrilled about one of his instructors going and learning off another Sifu .

http://www.vingtsun.net.au/

Here is a link to his site .

[Yoshiyahu]

Interesting site...but one of the sites is all in german.


No unfortunately , but I sure would have liked to . It would of had to be in secret because I don't think my Sifu would have been too thrilled about one of his instructors going and learning off another Sifu .

http://www.vingtsun.net.au/

Here is a link to his site .

[mook jong man]

On the page that I've linked to up the top where it says contents it will take you to a couple of articles that he's written .

[skinters]

It might interest you to know Skinters that I used to teach a guy when I was running a suburban branch in Sydney's outer suburbs , that lived next door to Barry Lee .

Sifu Barry Lee is also one of WSL's head men in Australia , and is married to WSL's daughter I believe. He was nicknamed " The Machine " by WSL who said that if you are hit by this man , you don't get back up .

Anyway I said to this student , what the hell are you doing learning off me for when you live next door to Barry Lee , I am a Neville Nobody compared to Barry Lee .

But the guy didn't seem to understand the importance of who he was living next to , it was sort of pre internet days and all that so he kept on learning with me . But that was years ago and I think Sifu Lee has set up an organisation in Germany now .


found this of david peterson,just out of interest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhHyjYsua0&feature=related


had a look at barry lee,found is site,quite interesting,but could only digout this old clip of him with WSL, if you are hit by this man, you don't get back up haha you wont get a better endorsment . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meEN7TJmaE0

[Yoshiyahu]

So do you guys think Michael Wong Wing Chun is any good. Could someone learning from him become a good WC fighter? Or would they lack many basics to fight with?

[skinters]

So do you guys think Michael Wong Wing Chun is any good. Could someone learning from him become a good WC fighter? Or would they lack many basics to fight with?

there are things lacking from a lot of wingchun fighters,even bruce lee had his short comings .

take what you need from it,i watched his dvd a friend loaned me ,and thought in parts it was quite good .if your looking for traditional wingchun with a lineage you can trace back look elsewhere .

[Yoshiyahu]

Yea. I like some of street applications. But I know if he has the basics to offer like

Root
Proper structure
Body Alignment
Flow and Sensitivity.

I don't if his WC teaches these things are not...Please share with me if it does?



there are things lacking from a lot of wingchun fighters,even bruce lee had his short comings .

take what you need from it,i watched his dvd a friend loaned me ,and thought in parts it was quite good .if your looking for traditional wingchun with a lineage you can trace back look elsewhere .

[skinters]

Yea. I like some of street applications. But I know if he has the basics to offer like

Root
Proper structure
Body Alignment
Flow and Sensitivity.

I don't if his WC teaches these things are not...Please share with me if it does?

well im sure he has all of them to a higher or lesser degree,when he does the drills with a partner he certaintly dont look unbalanced.

i got to say something i feel sorry for his training partner in some of the drills,although he's wareing body and shin pads he dont hold back.

[Yoshiyahu]

Yea. Does anyone know if Michael Wong uses the

Root
Proper structure
Body Alignment
Flow and Sensitivity


well im sure he has all of them to a higher or lesser degree,when he does the drills with a partner he certaintly dont look unbalanced.

i got to say something i feel sorry for his training partner in some of the drills,although he's wareing body and shin pads he dont hold back.

[skinters]

Yea. Does anyone know if Michael Wong uses the

Root
Proper structure
Body Alignment
Flow and Sensitivity

yosh ????

only he knows that,why dont you ring him up and ask him .

[geezer]

I have a very old videotape of Wong Shun Leung...

He... demonstrates kicking and how important it is to maintain the angle in the leg as you raise your kick and not chamber the leg.

Mook, could you elaborate a bit on this "angle"? Are you referring to keeping the shin angled forward as you lift and thrust the kick (kind of like a mirror image of the angle of the elbow and forearm in a centerline tan-sau)?

[mook jong man]

Mook, could you elaborate a bit on this "angle"? Are you referring to keeping the shin angled forward as you lift and thrust the kick (kind of like a mirror image of the angle of the elbow and forearm in a centerline tan-sau)?

Yes , thats what I mean .
The leg stays in the same angle from your stance till when it gets to the target and then it thrusts through , just like the arms. He draws a diagram on a black board showing how the movement is direct and done in one movement rather than other arts who cock the knee up and then thrust it out .

This method is not direct to the target , is telegraphic because it is a one -two movement . He then kicks a wall bag and shows that with the Wing Chun kicking method the force of the opposite reaction travels back down into the ground , where as with the cock your knee up in a chamber and then thrust it out method the force pushes your body back .

[Yoshiyahu]

Okay buddy I called him...he had no reply.
yosh ????

only he knows that,why dont you ring him up and ask him .