Rare find

[LawDog]

A few months ago I purchased a very rare find, a Garand chambered in 7.62x59. This is not a 30.06 with a chamber plug. This Garand was manufactured in the mid 50's from what I have been told and it is in mint condition.
Anyone else out there with a rare peice? :shooter:

[Cruentus]

A few months ago I purchased a very rare find, a Garand chambered in 7.62x59. This is not a 30.06 with a chamber plug. This Garand was manufactured in the mid 50's from what I have been told and it is in mint condition.
Anyone else out there with a rare peice? :shooter:

Nice.

My AR-15 hopefully won't become a rare find in the upcoming years! ;)

I did get an FNH .57 pistol recently. Somewhat rare, but more of a new piece rather then an old school one: http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF003&gid=FNG001

Some things I would like to pick up in the future are a Rem. 700 (one that I'll trick out with a nice Triticon accupoint, bipod, sniper stock, and so forth) M1A SOCOM (friend just picked on up and now I am jelous), and possibly a Win. model 70. Might like to also get a nice cheap surplus Mosen Nagant as well at some point.

[elder999]

Inherited a couple of Parker shotguns from my dad, but I'm not much of a birder....got a bunch of other antiques, but none that you'd call particularly "rare." A ouple of Winchester 97 "trench brooms," though-they're my faves.....

[KenpoTex]

a Garand chambered in 7.62x59.

Interesting...I didn't know such an animal existed.

[Cruentus]

Inherited a couple of Parker shotguns from my dad, but I'm not much of a birder....got a bunch of other antiques, but none that you'd call particularly "rare." A ouple of Winchester 97 "trench brooms," though-they're my faves.....

Win 97s are cool with a shortened barrel...

[elder999]

Win 97s are cool with a shortened barrel...

Both of mine were made in 1919. :cool:

[Deaf Smith]

Do you mean 7.62x51 (.308 Winchester)? Never heard of a 7.62x59. 30-06 is 7.62x63.

Deaf

[Andy Moynihan]

He may mean 7.62x 39 ( AK ammo)

[Cruentus]

I think a 7.62x59R exists. I believe it's the same measurement as the .30-40 Krag, an old round dating back to the late 1800's; I didn't know that they made M1 Garands chambered that way until today!

[LawDog]

Yes, I stand corrected, I should not rush a post and then proof read it. The Russians made a 7.62 x 59 for awhile. It was used in one version of their sniper / competition rifle.
These Garands were pre of the pre M-14 era. The very first ones had a sleeve placed into the 06 chamber so that they would accept the new 7.62 x 51 round.
30-40 Craig, now that is a nice shooting peice. Some of them had the mag. on the left side of the stock.

[KenpoTex]

so what caliber is your rifle? :)

[searcher]

I have a rare find for my family. I have my Great-grandfather's .22 rifle that my Great Great-grandfather gave to him when they came across the plains shortly after arriving in this country. It is still in mint operating condition and has slain many a squirrel and rabbit.

[sgtmac_46]

Rare? I've got a Polish F.B. Radom VIS.35 9mm semi-automatic handgun made in Poland in 1939 under Nazi occupation.

Most everything else I have is common and modern.....though my grandfather has quite a number of rare items in his collection that is my birthright.

[terryl965]

A few months ago I purchased a very rare find, a Garand chambered in 7.62x59. This is not a 30.06 with a chamber plug. This Garand was manufactured in the mid 50's from what I have been told and it is in mint condition.
Anyone else out there with a rare peice? :shooter:

Sounds like you have something that is very special enjoy.

[LawDog]

7.62x51

[Andy Moynihan]

7.62x51

Ok. In civvie terms, .308.

[Deaf Smith]

I've always wished Springfield Armory would make a 'Tanker' Garand in .308 (yes 7.62x51).

An 18 inch barreled Garand! No 20 round mag stick out. A simple 8 round in block clip and receiver shortend to just .308 dimensions. Weigh around 7.5 to 8 lbs.

I know there have been some 'Tanker's made by other companies, but I bet Springfield Armory could make it right.

And that would be legal even in California!

Deaf

[HM2PAC]

Nice find on the 7.62x51 Garand.

Read up on them. Very few were made, mostly for the USN.

Springfield Armory is now making them as well as the -06 version.

[AzQkr]

Good morning Alan,

I've seen 308/7.62x51 Garands from time to time, but not one from the 50's. Many were converted over the years, and I believe yours would be in this category as well. Unlikely to be the original caliber. What make is yours?

H+R, SA, etc?

BTW--Tell Al Jr. Brownie said hello from Az. Is he still into bow hunting?

Brownie

[Grenadier]

Very uncommon, but I did have a Glock model 31 (357 Sig caliber), that used the 2nd generation (no finger grooves, no rails) frame.

Excellent shooter, and I hate myself for having sold it!

[LawDog]

Hey,
How ya doing. I just doubled checked my Springfield Garand. On the upper portion of the receiver just below the sight there is an old stamping of 7.62/2. On the barrel and ejector slide there is stamped 7.62/2.
Many reconditioned Garands fininsh did not match much like the infamous Korea "black bolt" Garands. On mine the entire guns finish is old and matches.
I do know that the military began trying out the new 7.62x51 very early. The test beds were the old Garands. When I went through basic training in "67" our basic training weapon was the M-14 along with a few 308 Garands. Wheather there were re-barreled by the Military I am not sure of but I did see them.
Al Jr. is still bow hunting. He is still one of the upper end boys. He holds many records in game taken including being in the top 10 in Bear in Canada. He is an LEO in Middleborough now, 3 years I believe.
How about yourself.?

[LawDog]

AzQkr,
I took the numbers off of this Garands receiver and ran it to obtain a firearm history. It was produced 1954 - 56. The cal. listed was 7.62 and nothing else.
Thats all that I could find.
Take care.

[Grenadier]

Hmmm, browsing through Guns America, and found a Luger chambered for the 357 Sig, made by the Luger guru, John V. Martz:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/992506377/Guns/Pistols/Luger-Pistols/John_Martz_P08_Luger_in_357_SIG_NEW.htm

[LawDog]

Thats a new one on me.

[Grenadier]

Thats a new one on me.

Really unusual combination, indeed! He's taking a pistol whose original design is for a cartridge that has a SAAMI max of 35,000 psi, and chambers it for a cartridge of 40,000 psi SAAMI max pressure.

I'm wondering how a Luger would hold up to long-term use with such a cartridge? Given the battering that some of the earlier357 Sig pistols took, I'm rather curious.

It's probably a moot issue anyways, since I doubt anyone would want to shoot one of Martz's wonderful creations to death...

[Andy Moynihan]

Really unusual combination, indeed! He's taking a pistol whose original design is for a cartridge that has a SAAMI max of 35,000 psi, and chambers it for a cartridge of 40,000 psi SAAMI max pressure.

I'm wondering how a Luger would hold up to long-term use with such a cartridge? .


I don't.

*Mimes mushroom cloud*

[sgtmac_46]

7.62x51 7.62 Nato.....now is this a new Springfield Arms Garand, or is it an M-1E14, M-1E14 Mark 2 Model 0, M-1E14 Mark 2 Model 2, or another variant?

[chinto]

7.62x51


so the garand is in 7.62X51mm / .308 nato ??