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Jas0n
04-01-2003, 10:43 PM
In Class tonight a black belt invited me to his place on sundays to do some stick fighting he and some others train in? I missed what he called it? anyone know of anything? I think it started with a K? maybe?

pesilat
04-01-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Jas0n
In Class tonight a black belt invited me to his place on sundays to do some stick fighting he and some others train in? I missed what he called it? anyone know of anything? I think it started with a K? maybe?

Probably "Kali."

It's Filipino martial martial arts. Also may be known as "Eskrima" or "Arnis" ... though some people really get hung up on the words they use.

Check out the Filipino Martial Arts - General and Modern Arnis sections of this discussion group for more information on it :)

Of course, there's a lot more to the FMA than just stick fighting, but sticks and blades are what they're best known for.

It's possible that he's referring to another stickfighting art, but that'd be my guess.

For instance, he may be referring to "Kalaripayatt" which is an Indian martial art that, as far as I know, does some stick work (though I'm not sure how much ... "Lahti" is the Indian art that's most commonly associated with sticks).

Or, he may have even said, "La Canne" (sp?) which is a French stick fighting art :)

But I'd guess he said "Kali" :D

Mike

Jas0n
04-01-2003, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by pesilat
Probably "Kali."

It's Filipino martial martial arts. Also may be known as "Eskrima" or "Arnis" ... though some people really get hung up on the words they use.

Check out the Filipino Martial Arts - General and Modern Arnis sections of this discussion group for more information on it :)

Of course, there's a lot more to the FMA than just stick fighting, but sticks and blades are what they're best known for.

It's possible that he's referring to another stickfighting art, but that'd be my guess.

For instance, he may be referring to "Kalaripayatt" which is an Indian martial art that, as far as I know, does some stick work (though I'm not sure how much ... "Lahti" is the Indian art that's most commonly associated with sticks).

Or, he may have even said, "La Canne" (sp?) which is a French stick fighting art :)

But I'd guess he said "Kali" :D

Mike Ah! ty for the info. I do believe he said it was not an easy art to learn. this guy has his black belt in EPAK and has taken Sholin Kenpo and like 7 yrs of Tai kwon do (sp). He is very talented! and dedicated.

pesilat
04-01-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Jas0n
Ah! ty for the info. I do believe he said it was not an easy art to learn. this guy has his black belt in EPAK and has taken Sholin Kenpo and like 7 yrs of Tai kwon do (sp). He is very talented! and dedicated.

Well, I hope he's also trained in some Kali along the way :D

Anyway, I personally think Kali is no more or less difficult to learn than any other art.

I think you'll enjoy the training, though. It's a lot of fun. When I came into it, I also came from a Karate background (Goju-Ryu specifically) and training in Kali was kind of like recess for me because I got to play with "toys" (i.e.: the weapons). At first, for me, the Kali was just a means to an end. I was really interested in Silat training, and the Kali was just part of the package. But, over time, I fell in love with the Kali. While my passion is still Silat, I still love the Kali and love training in it.

Mike

dutchboy
04-01-2003, 11:38 PM
I agree, it is definitely worth training in. I came from a kenpo background and started training in Arnis. Now I'm lovin every minute of it.

Rich Parsons
04-01-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by pesilat
Well, I hope he's also trained in some Kali along the way :D

Anyway, I personally think Kali is no more or less difficult to learn than any other art.
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I still love the Kali and love training in it.

Mike

Jas0n,

I have to agree with pesilat, that no art is truly more difficult to learn than another. Many people assume that weapon training is harder since they have not done it. It is just different and should be respected just as much as the rest of the other techniques and weapons *( hands/feet/etc. *).

Now, I will say this, it is sometimes harder to go from a completly hard and linear style to a softer and circular style. Why, because you do not relax and you try to do the new techniques based upon your previous knowledge. Go into the lessons with an empty glass or blank slate mentality and this will help.

Good Training to you :)

pesilat
04-01-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Rich Parsons
Now, I will say this, it is sometimes harder to go from a completly hard and linear style to a softer and circular style. Why, because you do not relax and you try to do the new techniques based upon your previous knowledge. Go into the lessons with an empty glass or blank slate mentality and this will help.

Good Training to you :)

LOL. Yup. With my Goju background, it took me months to get my feet moving the way they were supposed to in the Kali :)

Mike

arnisador
04-02-2003, 01:22 AM
Many EPAK schools do some FMA-influenced stickwork, I understand.

pesilat
04-02-2003, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by arnisador
Many EPAK schools do some FMA-influenced stickwork, I understand.

Yup. That's been my impression, too. I know Huk Planas has some good stick work.

Mike

moromoro
06-15-2003, 09:11 AM
WHAT the heck is EPAK??????????:confused:

pesilat
06-15-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by moromoro
WHAT the heck is EPAK??????????:confused:

Ed Parker American Kenpo

Mike

Tapps
06-20-2003, 10:18 AM
How did the class go ?