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rachel
04-01-2003, 01:57 PM
I just found out I'm testing for my purple belt on Friday. Wish me luck. I think I'm gonna need it.:eek:

pesilat
04-01-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by rachel
I just found out I'm testing for my purple belt on Friday. Wish me luck. I think I'm gonna need it.:eek:

Nah. If you needed luck, you wouldn't be testing ;)

Rather, I'll wish you "good focus."

Relax, go with the flow. You'll do fine.

Mike

tarabos
04-01-2003, 02:17 PM
Good luck....have fun...

cali_tkdbruin
04-01-2003, 02:17 PM
Purple all ready? Well, you're sure moving along well right up the MA ladder.;)

I wish you the best at your testing, and hope you do an excellent job... :asian:

rachel
04-01-2003, 02:26 PM
Thank you. My problem is that I know everything I need to know. It's doing it at the drop of a hat that has me flustered. I have to execute it as soon as he says it without thinking and that has me worried. I practice out in the parking lot of the dojo with 2 others in my class while our kids have their class inside. That helps a little.

tunetigress
04-01-2003, 02:28 PM
I'm sure you won't need luck! Get plenty of rest and drink lots of water. Go for the gusto and have fun!

In my own case I enjoyed testing for Purple far more than testing for Orange. I felt more able to keep it all together under pressure.

All the best on your test. Will look forward to hearing about it!

:CTF:

pesilat
04-01-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by rachel
Thank you. My problem is that I know everything I need to know. It's doing it at the drop of a hat that has me flustered. I have to execute it as soon as he says it without thinking and that has me worried. I practice out in the parking lot of the dojo with 2 others in my class while our kids have their class inside. That helps a little.

In the wise words of a generally wisea$$ friend of mine, "Don't think of it as a test. Think of it as an intense training session. Nothing more."

Thinking of it as a "test" tends to get you stressed out. Just relax and do your thing.

Mike

SingingTiger
04-01-2003, 02:59 PM
Rachel,

I'm with pesilat: instead of "good luck," I'll wish you "good focus" (although a little luck never hurts ;) ).

In my tests so far, I've also been most nervous about being able to pull of whatever the tester calls at the drop of a hat (my tests have all been private, we don't do group tests). My advice would be, "trust yourself."

Rich

jfarnsworth
04-01-2003, 03:05 PM
Good Luck and I'm sure you will do fine.;)

theletch1
04-01-2003, 03:23 PM
:asian: Just breathe:D :asian:

You'll do fine, enjoy it, learn from it, build on it.

KenpoGirl
04-01-2003, 03:29 PM
How many techniques/kata/form etc... do you learn in each belt?

You've been training since november 2002, four months.
Please know that I'm not saying anything is wrong, just curious what your system is. :D

Dot

KenpoTess
04-01-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by KenpoGirl
How many techniques/kata/form etc... do you learn in each belt?

You've been training since november 2002, four months.
Please know that I'm not saying anything is wrong, just curious what your system is. :D

Dot

I'm curious too..


Takes almost 6 mos in our school to make even Yellow belt~!

rachel
04-01-2003, 03:36 PM
i have to do everything I've learned from the beginning plus 2nd overhead, 2nd side club,2 combination,5 combination and 1st dragon.plus sho lung. Tess, what do you have to know in your school to get purple? from beginner all the way up to purple. I know you're an owner/instructor and I respect your opinion alot.

KenpoTess
04-01-2003, 03:51 PM
Rachel.. Here you go :) We follow the I.K.K.O. curriculum.
hope this gives you an insight ~!

Tess


For Yellow Belt

KENPO CREED & 7 SAYINGS

STANCES
* Attention
* Natural
* Training Horse
* Neutral Bow
* Forward Bow
* 45 degree Cat

BLOCKS
* Inward
* Outward ( Vertical )
* Outward ( Extended )
* Upward
* Downward
* Downward horizontal forearm

PUNCHES
* Thrusting Horizontal
* Snapping Horizontal
* Thrusting Vertical
* Snapping Vertical
* Thrusting Uppercut
* Snapping Uppercut
* Step Through Punches

STRIKES
* Inward hand sword
* Outward hand sword
* Inward horizontal elbow
* Outward horizontal elbow
* Inward overhead elbow
* Obscure elbow
* Back hammer fist
* Outward horizontal back knuckle
* Back knuckle rake

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Inward overhead claw
* 5 - finger pinch

KICKS
* Front snapping ball
* Front snapping roundhouse
* Side snapping knife edge
* Back snapping heel
* Step through kicks

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Step through
* Step drag
* Drag step

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )

FORMS & SETS
SHORT FORM # 1
BLOCKING SET # 1

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES
1. B1a
2. B1b
3. B2a
4. B2b
5. B3a
6. B3b
7. B4a
8. B4b

Orange Belt

ORANGE PLEDGE & 10 SAYINGS

ORANGE I.K.K.O. PATCH DESCRIPTIONS

EQUATION FORMULA

STANCES
* Reverse Bow
* Wide Kneel
* Close Kneel

BLOCKS
* Inside Downward (palm down)
* Inside Downward (palm up)

PARRIES
* Inward Parry
* Outward Parry

PUNCHES
* Thrusting Horizontal - inverted
* Snapping Horizontal - inverted
* Step Through Block Punch

STRIKES
* Thrusting heel palm
* Upward elbow
* Back elbow
* Underhand reverse hammerfist

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Horizontal finger thrust
* Outward whip

KICKS
* Front snapping knife edge
* Front thrusting stomp
* Side thrusting stomp
* Back thrusting stomp
* Shuffle kicks (Drag/kick)

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Switch (F-B - B-F - I-P)
* Cover

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. CLUTCHING FEATHERS - (Front left hair grab)
2. TRIGGERED SALUTE - ( Front right hand direct push )
3. DANCE OF DEATH - ( Front right reverse punch )
4. THRUSTING SALUTE - ( Front right step through kick )
5. GIFT OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front handshake )
6. LOCKING HORNS - ( Front headlock )
7. EVADING THE STORM - ( Front right step through overhead club )
8. LONE KIMONO - ( front left hand lapel {palm up )
9. GLANCING SALUTE - ( Front right cross push )
10. FIVE SWORDS - ( Front right step through punch )
11. SCRAPING HOOF - ( Rear full nelson )
12. GRIP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
13. REPEATING MACE - ( Front left hand push )
14. SHIELDING HAMMER - ( Front left step through roundhouse punch )
15. STRIKING SERPENT'S HEAD - ( Front bear hug - arms free )
16. CRASHING WINGS - ( Rear bear hug arms free )

FORMS & SETS
LONG FORM # 1
KICKING SET # 1

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B1a 9. KB1a 17. B1aH 25. B1aHK
2. B1b 10. KB1b 18. B1bH 26. B1bHK
3. B2a 11. KB2a 19. B2aH 27. B2aHK
4. B2b 12. KB2b 20. B2bH 28. B2bHK
5. B3a 13. KB3a 21. B3aH 29. B3aHK
6 B3b 14. KB3b 22. B3bH 30. B3bHK
7. B4a 15. KB4a 23. B4aH 31. B4aHK
8. B4b 16. KB4b 24. B4bH 32. B4bHK


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - o
2. d - o
3. u - o
4. i - u
5. rr - rl -ll - lr
6. innovate



ORANGE BELT LEG EXERCISES

1. Slow motion - Positioning
2. Slow motion - Kicking
3. Fast motion - Kicking
4. Fast motion - Vary levels
5. Innovate

Purple Belt

PURPLE PLEDGE & 9 SAYINGS

PURPLE PATCH DESCRIPTIONS

STANCES
* One Leg F/R
* Cat (90 degree)
* Front Twist
* Rear Twist

BLOCKS
* Push down
* Cross (upward)
* Universal

PARRIES
* Inside downward
* Outside downward

PUNCHES
* Roundhouse

STRIKES
* Inward horizontal forearm
* Outward horizontal forearm
* Inner diagonal wrist
* Underhand heel palm
* Inward horizontal heel palm
* Upward lifting back knuckle
* Downward elbow
* Inward overhead elbow
* Vertical thrusting back knuckle
* Vertical snapping back knuckle

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Vertical finger thrust
* Upward thrust
* Overhand whip
KICKS
* Front thrusting ball
* Front thrusting roundhouse
* Side thrusting knife edge
* Back thrusting heel
* Thrusting sweep

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Push drag
* Front crossover
* Rear crossover

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. TWIRLING WINGS - ( Rear 2 hand stiff arm shoulder grab)
2. SNAPPING TWIG - ( Front left hand chest push )
3. LEAPING CRANE - ( Front right step through punch )
4. BUCKLING BRANCH - ( Front left step through kick )
5. CRUSHING HAMMER- ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. CAPTURED LEAVES - ( Right flank finger lock )
7. CALMING THE STORM - ( Front right step through roundhouse club )
8. CROSSING TALON- ( front right cross wrist grab )
9. REVERSING MACE - ( Front left step through punch )
10. THRUSTING PRONGS - ( Front bear hug - arms pinned )
11. LOCKED WING - ( Rear right hammer lock )
12. OBSCURE WING - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
13. RAINING CLAW - ( Front right uppercut punch )
14. SPIRALING TWIG - ( Rear bear hug - arms free )
15. TWISTED TWIG - ( Front wrist lock )
16. OBSCURE SWORD - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )

FORMS & SETS
SHORT FORM # 2
COORDINATION SET # 1
STANCE SET # 1
OWN FORM (5 TECHNIQUES)

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B5a 9. tsKrk 17. tsKB5aPbk 25. rKtsKB5a
2. B5b 10. rKtsk 18. tsKB5aPhk 26. rKtsKB5b
3. B5aP 11. B1atsKrK 19. tsKB5aPbkhK 27. rKtsKB5aP
4. B5bP 12. tsKrKB1a 20. tsKB5aPhKbk 28. rKtsKB5bP
5. B5aPbk 13. tsKB5a 21. rKtsK6bk 29. rKtsKB5aPbk
6 B5bPhK 14. tsKB5a 22. rKtsK6hK 30. rKtsKB5aPhK
7. B5aPbkhK 15. tsKB5b 23. rKtsK6bkhK 31. rKtsKB5aPbkhK
8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - p - o - p
2. d- p - o - p
3. u - p - o - p
4. i - p - u - p
5. rl - rl
6. lr - lr
7. rr - ll
8. innovate

brianhunter
04-01-2003, 03:56 PM
Good to see others have to suffer through leg exercise LOL

rachel
04-01-2003, 05:56 PM
wow. I'm speechless.:eek:

SingingTiger
04-01-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by KenpoTess
COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - o
2. d - o
3. u - o
4. i - u
5. rr - rl -ll - lr
6. innovate



COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - p - o - p
2. d- p - o - p
3. u - p - o - p
4. i - p - u - p
5. rl - rl
6. lr - lr
7. rr - ll
8. innovate

Tess,

Can you elaborate on these? Maybe just an indication of what the letters stand for, and a description of one or two?

Thanks,
Rich

jfarnsworth
04-01-2003, 08:13 PM
Go look at Mr. C's website. :asian:

KenpoGirl
04-01-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by rachel
wow. I'm speechless.:eek:

And what you have to realise Rachel is that is only the Yellow and Orange belts for the IKKO there are 6 plus other belts. :eek:

I believe the IKKO curriculum is one of the more advanced and the amount you need to know of the various systems. Of course this is just a guestimation haven't really seen anyone else’s except the local stuff.

Regardless I am starting on 3rd Brown so I'm up to what? Something like 72 techniques, 4 forms, and 6 sets. Not to mention the basics though for us they are not a requirement of the test, but must be learned in class. It is a challenge to get through all of them, an excellent workout.

But many systems vary, the IKCA only has 54 techniques for the whole system, which must be completed in one LONG form for the test, plus has to be done on an attacker. At least that's what I'm told, I could have parts of that wrong.

Then you have Tracy Kenpo, which has what is it Ricardo 600 techniques plus forms and sets. So see it varies from style to style.

:asian:

KenpoTess
04-01-2003, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by SingingTiger
Tess,

Can you elaborate on these? Maybe just an indication of what the letters stand for, and a description of one or two?

Thanks,
Rich

Here ya go Rich :)


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - o Inner block - outer block
2. d - o down block-outer block
3. u - o upward block -outer block
4. i - u Inner block -upward block
5. rr - rl -ll - lr done right right side.. right left.. left -left left right
6. innovate -

COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - p - o - p P for Parry
2. d- p - o - p
3. u - p - o - p
4. i - p - u - p
5. rl - rl
6. lr - lr
7. rr - ll
8. innovate

Seig
04-02-2003, 02:21 AM
add to which, I'm picky.:D

Seig
04-02-2003, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by KenpoTess

COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - p - o - p P for Parry
2. d- p - o - p
3. u - p - o - p
4. i - p - u - p
5. rl - rl
6. lr - lr
7. rr - ll
8. innovate
She can't read my notes, the P is for Punch.

cali_tkdbruin
04-02-2003, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Seig
She can't read my notes, the P is for Punch.

Do you and KenpoTess have your own personal PCs that you use to access MTalk, or do you two have to spar for control the the keyboard? If so, who taps out first??? :boxing:


:D

Seig
04-02-2003, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by cali_tkdbruin
Do you and KenpoTess have your own personal PCs that you use to access MTalk, or do you two have to spar for control the the keyboard? If so, who taps out first??? :boxing:


:D
We have seperate PCs, DSL, a router and a hub.
We're often on at the same time.

KenpoTess
04-02-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Seig
She can't read my notes, the P is for Punch.

*standing in the penalty box doing lots of punches*
:o

SingingTiger
04-02-2003, 11:42 PM
Thanks Tess!

So are those coordination exercises in a horse or other stationary stance, or are there stance changes involved? And is the "innovate" on the part of the person conducting the test, or the person taking the test?

I'm only asking because we have to do coordination movements on our tests, and those are always the ones I'm most concerned about, so I'm curious to see what others have to do. None of ours are specified as "requirements" on the charts, although there are several that usually get called. The person conducting the test will just call out something like, "stepping back into a cat, perform a pushdown block followed by a backfist followed by a front snap kick." My understanding is that the person conducting the test isn't looking at whether or not you perform all of the movements perfectly as much as at whether or not you react quickly and effectively. I haven't had any problems so far, but I've mostly had to do only two or three movements, maybe four once or twice. Once I get up to four, my brain gets a little overloaded, so the next test or two should be interesting. :)

Speaking of parries, when do you introduce them?

Rich

Goldendragon7
04-03-2003, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by SingingTiger
So are those coordination exercises in a horse or other stationary stance, or are there stance changes involved?
Rich

Both, we start in a stationary horse then as the student advances, we increase the difficulty (stance changes, moving in stances etc.) speed and other variables.


Originally posted by SingingTiger
Is the "innovate" on the part of the person conducting the test, or the person taking the test?
Rich

Both, but initially to illustrate and drill the coordination needed within the various combinations that are possible and to learn several different combinations of blocking, parrying, punching or striking, etc., all weaved together effectively.


Originally posted by SingingTiger
The person conducting the test will just call out something like, "stepping back into a cat, perform a pushdown block followed by a backfist followed by a front snap kick."
Rich

That is a great drill as well, that type of impromptu command response is more during the innovate section.


Originally posted by SingingTiger
Speaking of parries, when do you introduce them?
Rich

From the start {they are a sub categories of blocking} and a necessary portion of understanding the "double factor" when training or practicing the various coordinations exercises or drills with 2 arms.

:asian:

bahenlaura
04-04-2003, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by KenpoTess
Rachel.. Here you go :) We follow the I.K.K.O. curriculum.
hope this gives you an insight ~!

Tess


For Yellow Belt

KENPO CREED & 7 SAYINGS

STANCES
* Attention
* Natural
* Training Horse
* Neutral Bow
* Forward Bow
* 45 degree Cat

BLOCKS
* Inward
* Outward ( Vertical )
* Outward ( Extended )
* Upward
* Downward
* Downward horizontal forearm

PUNCHES
* Thrusting Horizontal
* Snapping Horizontal
* Thrusting Vertical
* Snapping Vertical
* Thrusting Uppercut
* Snapping Uppercut
* Step Through Punches

STRIKES
* Inward hand sword
* Outward hand sword
* Inward horizontal elbow
* Outward horizontal elbow
* Inward overhead elbow
* Obscure elbow
* Back hammer fist
* Outward horizontal back knuckle
* Back knuckle rake

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Inward overhead claw
* 5 - finger pinch

KICKS
* Front snapping ball
* Front snapping roundhouse
* Side snapping knife edge
* Back snapping heel
* Step through kicks

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Step through
* Step drag
* Drag step

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )

FORMS & SETS
SHORT FORM # 1
BLOCKING SET # 1

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES
1. B1a
2. B1b
3. B2a
4. B2b
5. B3a
6. B3b
7. B4a
8. B4b

Orange Belt

ORANGE PLEDGE & 10 SAYINGS

ORANGE I.K.K.O. PATCH DESCRIPTIONS

EQUATION FORMULA

STANCES
* Reverse Bow
* Wide Kneel
* Close Kneel

BLOCKS
* Inside Downward (palm down)
* Inside Downward (palm up)

PARRIES
* Inward Parry
* Outward Parry

PUNCHES
* Thrusting Horizontal - inverted
* Snapping Horizontal - inverted
* Step Through Block Punch

STRIKES
* Thrusting heel palm
* Upward elbow
* Back elbow
* Underhand reverse hammerfist

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Horizontal finger thrust
* Outward whip

KICKS
* Front snapping knife edge
* Front thrusting stomp
* Side thrusting stomp
* Back thrusting stomp
* Shuffle kicks (Drag/kick)

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Switch (F-B - B-F - I-P)
* Cover

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. CLUTCHING FEATHERS - (Front left hair grab)
2. TRIGGERED SALUTE - ( Front right hand direct push )
3. DANCE OF DEATH - ( Front right reverse punch )
4. THRUSTING SALUTE - ( Front right step through kick )
5. GIFT OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front handshake )
6. LOCKING HORNS - ( Front headlock )
7. EVADING THE STORM - ( Front right step through overhead club )
8. LONE KIMONO - ( front left hand lapel {palm up )
9. GLANCING SALUTE - ( Front right cross push )
10. FIVE SWORDS - ( Front right step through punch )
11. SCRAPING HOOF - ( Rear full nelson )
12. GRIP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
13. REPEATING MACE - ( Front left hand push )
14. SHIELDING HAMMER - ( Front left step through roundhouse punch )
15. STRIKING SERPENT'S HEAD - ( Front bear hug - arms free )
16. CRASHING WINGS - ( Rear bear hug arms free )

FORMS & SETS
LONG FORM # 1
KICKING SET # 1

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B1a 9. KB1a 17. B1aH 25. B1aHK
2. B1b 10. KB1b 18. B1bH 26. B1bHK
3. B2a 11. KB2a 19. B2aH 27. B2aHK
4. B2b 12. KB2b 20. B2bH 28. B2bHK
5. B3a 13. KB3a 21. B3aH 29. B3aHK
6 B3b 14. KB3b 22. B3bH 30. B3bHK
7. B4a 15. KB4a 23. B4aH 31. B4aHK
8. B4b 16. KB4b 24. B4bH 32. B4bHK


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - o
2. d - o
3. u - o
4. i - u
5. rr - rl -ll - lr
6. innovate



ORANGE BELT LEG EXERCISES

1. Slow motion - Positioning
2. Slow motion - Kicking
3. Fast motion - Kicking
4. Fast motion - Vary levels
5. Innovate

Purple Belt

PURPLE PLEDGE & 9 SAYINGS

PURPLE PATCH DESCRIPTIONS

STANCES
* One Leg F/R
* Cat (90 degree)
* Front Twist
* Rear Twist

BLOCKS
* Push down
* Cross (upward)
* Universal

PARRIES
* Inside downward
* Outside downward

PUNCHES
* Roundhouse

STRIKES
* Inward horizontal forearm
* Outward horizontal forearm
* Inner diagonal wrist
* Underhand heel palm
* Inward horizontal heel palm
* Upward lifting back knuckle
* Downward elbow
* Inward overhead elbow
* Vertical thrusting back knuckle
* Vertical snapping back knuckle

FINGER TECHNIQUES
* Vertical finger thrust
* Upward thrust
* Overhand whip
KICKS
* Front thrusting ball
* Front thrusting roundhouse
* Side thrusting knife edge
* Back thrusting heel
* Thrusting sweep

FOOT MANEUVERS
* Push drag
* Front crossover
* Rear crossover

SELF DEFENSE TECHNIQUES
1. TWIRLING WINGS - ( Rear 2 hand stiff arm shoulder grab)
2. SNAPPING TWIG - ( Front left hand chest push )
3. LEAPING CRANE - ( Front right step through punch )
4. BUCKLING BRANCH - ( Front left step through kick )
5. CRUSHING HAMMER- ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. CAPTURED LEAVES - ( Right flank finger lock )
7. CALMING THE STORM - ( Front right step through roundhouse club )
8. CROSSING TALON- ( front right cross wrist grab )
9. REVERSING MACE - ( Front left step through punch )
10. THRUSTING PRONGS - ( Front bear hug - arms pinned )
11. LOCKED WING - ( Rear right hammer lock )
12. OBSCURE WING - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
13. RAINING CLAW - ( Front right uppercut punch )
14. SPIRALING TWIG - ( Rear bear hug - arms free )
15. TWISTED TWIG - ( Front wrist lock )
16. OBSCURE SWORD - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )

FORMS & SETS
SHORT FORM # 2
COORDINATION SET # 1
STANCE SET # 1
OWN FORM (5 TECHNIQUES)

FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B5a 9. tsKrk 17. tsKB5aPbk 25. rKtsKB5a
2. B5b 10. rKtsk 18. tsKB5aPhk 26. rKtsKB5b
3. B5aP 11. B1atsKrK 19. tsKB5aPbkhK 27. rKtsKB5aP
4. B5bP 12. tsKrKB1a 20. tsKB5aPhKbk 28. rKtsKB5bP
5. B5aPbk 13. tsKB5a 21. rKtsK6bk 29. rKtsKB5aPbk
6 B5bPhK 14. tsKB5a 22. rKtsK6hK 30. rKtsKB5aPhK
7. B5aPbkhK 15. tsKB5b 23. rKtsK6bkhK 31. rKtsKB5aPbkhK
8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk


COORDINATION EXERCISES

1. i - p - o - p
2. d- p - o - p
3. u - p - o - p
4. i - p - u - p
5. rl - rl
6. lr - lr
7. rr - ll
8. innovate

:D
When do you guys sleep? LOL.
Just kidding!
;)

Seig
04-04-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by bahenlaura
:D
When do you guys sleep? LOL.
Just kidding!
;)
Sleep?:confused: What's that?

pesilat
04-04-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by Seig
Sleep?:confused: What's that?

Isn't that what people do after they die? Life is about living, not about sleeping ;)

Having said this, it's past my bedtime and I still gotta pack, then get up and drive a couple of hours in the morning.

Mike

Goldendragon7
04-04-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by bahenlaura
When do you guys sleep? LOL.Just kidding!;)


You tryin to cause trouble?

:rofl:
:asian:

Chicago Green Dragon
04-04-2003, 02:26 PM
Good Luck .........:asian:



Chicago Green
Dragon :asian:

Chu-Chulain
04-04-2003, 07:34 PM
FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B5a 9. tsKrk 17. tsKB5aPbk 25. rKtsKB5a
2. B5b 10. rKtsk 18. tsKB5aPhk 26. rKtsKB5b
3. B5aP 11. B1atsKrK 19. tsKB5aPbkhK 27. rKtsKB5aP
4. B5bP 12. tsKrKB1a 20. tsKB5aPhKbk 28. rKtsKB5bP
5. B5aPbk 13. tsKB5a 21. rKtsK6bk 29. rKtsKB5aPbk
6 B5bPhK 14. tsKB5a 22. rKtsK6hK 30. rKtsKB5aPhK
7. B5aPbkhK 15. tsKB5b 23. rKtsK6bkhK 31. rKtsKB5aPbkhK
8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk

COuld someone please explain this, especially the coding and how it is implemented?

Thanks...

jfarnsworth
04-04-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Chu-Chulain
FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

COuld someone please explain this, especially the coding and how it is implemented?Thanks...

You know this stuff takes time on the mat. Anyone can explain these but without proper mat time with the instructor some maybe hard to understand. :asian:

KenpoGirl
04-05-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by jfarnsworth
You know this stuff takes time on the mat. Anyone can explain these but without proper mat time with the instructor some maybe hard to understand. :asian:

Not all instructors teach the freestyle techniques.

Mine doesn't the only experience I have with it was the little bit Dennis taught me a while ago.

:shrug:

jfarnsworth
04-05-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by KenpoGirl
Not all instructors teach the freestyle techniques.

They are just one of many a useful tool of motion to have. I believe a beginner should have these to get an idea on sparring combo's before they actually put the gloves on. The studio I attend doesn't either however I feel they are another aspect of kenpo to touch up on.:asian:

Chu-Chulain
04-06-2003, 05:58 PM
Sorry, I don't think I made my question clear.

What do the actual codes indicate?

e.g. for

8. B5bPhKbk 16. tsKB5aP 24. rKtsK6hKbk 32. rKtsKB5aPhKbk

Is B - Block? what is 5?

What is significane of uppercase vs lower, etc.??

Thanks

Michael Billings
04-06-2003, 11:33 PM
B = Base move, (not necessarily a block)

B5bPhKbk

B for this particular technique, if my memory is not too faulty, is a left-to-left grab, pulling down and out (check height, width and depth

5 as you step through (with a possible tsk)

b and punch to the kidney or rib

P followed by a left punch to the head as the right hand supresses and check the opponent's left arm.

hK immediately flowing into and executing a right heel kick

bk followed by a right outward back knuckle strike as you plant your right foot.

This is just a taste of one of the freestyle basics. I teach them not just for freestyle sparring patterns, but more so to "close the gap" in the street once the conflict has initiated and you are dealing with a fighter who is not going to grab or cleanly execute a punch. They are nice to train to flow into various techniques and a good platform from which to explore variable expansion of actual self-defense techniques.

-Michael

Chu-Chulain
04-08-2003, 04:35 PM
Interesting, they sound a lot like techniques.

What are the fundamental differences between a freestyle and a regular technique, is it just the style of attack??

Does anyone know where can I find out more details and examples of these?

Thanks

KenpoTess
04-08-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Chu-Chulain
Interesting, they sound a lot like techniques.

What are the fundamental differences between a freestyle and a regular technique, is it just the style of attack??

Does anyone know where can I find out more details and examples of these?

Thanks

These are used in EPAK :) Though not all schools utilize the freestyle.. Mr. Conatser (Goldendragon7) is my instructor and he uses every one of them ~!!


I see you're a blue belt.. what Kenpo system do you train in?

SingingTiger
04-08-2003, 06:40 PM
By the way, thanks to KenpoTess and Mr. Conatser for clarifying a few things! (I'm glad someone else brought this thread back to the top!)

Rich

Chu-Chulain
04-10-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by KenpoTess
These are used in EPAK :) Though not all schools utilize the freestyle.. Mr. Conatser (Goldendragon7) is my instructor and he uses every one of them ~!!


I see you're a blue belt.. what Kenpo system do you train in?

Basically I am training in an EPAK school, but clearly not covering quite the same material as others. Maybe the freestyle is something that will be introduced later, or maybe not...

I would be interested in finding out more, if for no other reason than a thirst for knowledge! Any suggestions of where to get more info?

Thanks...

Chu-Chulain
04-10-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by KenpoTess
These are used in EPAK :) Though not all schools utilize the freestyle.. Mr. Conatser (Goldendragon7) is my instructor and he uses every one of them ~!!


I see you're a blue belt.. what Kenpo system do you train in?

Hey, I just checked your profile and see you quote Samurai Jiu-Jitsu. Are you studying this currently, or in the past? How much experience do you have?

I used to train in England, many, many years ago. Great art and good compliment to Kenpo. I wish I could find a local school, but BJJ appears to be on every corner now I can't find the traditional style anywhere :(

KenpoTess
04-10-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Chu-Chulain
Hey, I just checked your profile and see you quote Samurai Jiu-Jitsu. Are you studying this currently, or in the past? How much experience do you have?

I used to train in England, many, many years ago. Great art and good compliment to Kenpo. I wish I could find a local school, but BJJ appears to be on every corner now I can't find the traditional style anywhere :(

Yeppers.. Samurai Jiu-jitsu is very complementary to American Kenpo.. especially so for women in my humble opinion :) I studied it for 6 yrs and since our transition to EPAK we have all we can handle working on the I.K.K.O. Curriculum :) We do play with Penjak Silat and Kali one night a week which is alot of fun ~!

We teach Kenpo at the local college and still incorporate Samurai Jiu-jitsu to those students (good to keep up on it)
I hope you find a school to meet your wants :)

Tess

brentb
04-12-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Chu-Chulain
FREESTYLE TECHNIQUES

1. B5a 9. tsKrk 17. tsKB5aPbk 25. rKtsKB5a
2. B5b 10. rKtsk 18. tsKB5aPhk 26. rKtsKB5b



COuld someone please explain this, especially the coding and how it is implemented?

Thanks...

Check out this link from kenponet.com that may help you figure them out.

http://kenponet.tripod.com/curriculum/techniques/freestyle.html

take care
Brent

stacks
04-18-2003, 03:07 PM
good luck and have fun and you will be fine, I tell my students not to think of it as a test, it is another day of kenpo and you are doing what you love, so it is not work. do not try to think about what to do - just do it, most of all RELAX

stacks