View Full Version : Poll: Have you been attacked or assaulted? With a weapon?
Mormegil
02-21-2003, 05:57 PM
Please read carefully:
If you have ever been involved in an assault, or attacked, was a weapon involved?
Weapon = knife, gun, stick, pool cue, rock, hammer, bottle, etc.
Jill666
02-21-2003, 06:29 PM
Yes, and yes. More than once, more than twice.
:apv:
I'm still here.
pesilat
02-21-2003, 07:13 PM
I put yes because the majority of times that I've been assaulted, there's been a weapon involved. But there have been a few times when there wasn't.
Mike
chufeng
02-21-2003, 10:12 PM
I've never used a weapon against another...other than my own two hands...but I've been assaulted with weapons three times.
:asian:
chufeng
karatekid1975
02-21-2003, 11:53 PM
I've been assulted, but I couldn't say that he had a weapon. He might of and I didn't see it or he had it hidden. I used my only weapons ..... my hands and feet.
Kempojujutsu
02-22-2003, 01:55 AM
Yes I have, it's been over thirty years. I was in 1st grade when I was walking home from school and a bully pulled a pocket knife on me. Walked about 5 blocks backwards making sure he didn't stab me. I wish, that iI had some kind of MA training prior to this. I am glad that my son who is 5 yr now is still showning intrest in MA. By the way the town I lived in only had a pop. of around 1600, not a big metro area.
Bob :asian:
yilisifu
02-22-2003, 06:55 AM
Yes - with knives, handguns, long sticks (like a staff), swords (duels count, don't they?).
Master of Blades
02-22-2003, 07:47 AM
It wasnt me being assaulted but my friend, well not even a friend, was being assaulted by two guys with poles. So me and my friends ran over to help him. I managed to disarm one of them and get whacked in the arm by the other. Left a nasty bruise but the guys ended up leaving. Only time I have ever had to use Martial Arts......wasnt a great first experiance either :( But I have to say if I hadnt done Kali for two years prior I doubt I would have even ran over.
arnisador
02-22-2003, 11:49 PM
Three guys, one knife.
James Kovacich
02-23-2003, 12:08 AM
Both, with and without weapons. When I was a teenager I had a several. I guess a few people took offense to the way I talk.
I bet you guys would of never thought that I had a big mouth.:D
As a teenager I was attacked with a bullworker ('70's) work out bar. And by a bat and with sticks several times.
As an adult I was attacked with a crow bar.
Marginal
02-23-2003, 01:52 AM
Yes. Got smacked in the back of the head several times with a backpack once.
Arthur
02-23-2003, 09:20 AM
Yup, knives a few times and a bottle once.
Arthur
Rich Parsons
02-23-2003, 12:41 PM
I have been attacked by many with weapons and also many without weapons. By Weapons I mean something other than their body.
I answered the poll by saying weapons, for in the cases I was most afraid, it was with weapons.
I was not the smartest boy going through college, I found myself being a bouncer and working security, since the hours were flexible enough and paid more than minimum wage, while I was going to school.
Question? Why did you ask this poll?
Mike Clarke
02-24-2003, 06:19 AM
I'm not sure if they class as assaults? but I have been involved in many fights [some street battles]. All were long ago when I was a teenager [and not the big softy I am now].
English soccer matches have a way of bringing out the nasty side of folk who just happen to be on the loosing side, or who's home ground you happen to be visiting.
One night however I turned a corner only to face someone who was looking for me. He had a kitchen knife in his hand and his German Shepard dog with him.
I kicked the dog in the jaw as hard as I could [think I broke it?], and slashed at the guy with an aluminum comb I use to carry in the back pocket of my Levi's. I didn't make contact with him but he dropped the knife and took off.
Had I been completely sober at the time, I'm not sure how I'd have reacted :confused:
Mike.
lhommedieu
02-24-2003, 07:40 PM
Drunk driver with a rebar (concrete reinforcement rod).
A.R.K.
02-25-2003, 07:16 PM
Multiple times. Usually a shank or other improvised weapon such as broom handle, mop ringer etc. Once with 2x4, once with baseball bat. Twice with firearms.
Patty
02-25-2003, 08:37 PM
Eighth grade. 12 guys, 1 me - no weapons
arnisador
02-25-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Patty
Eighth grade. 12 guys, 1 me - no weapons
At a 12-to-1 ratio, I think it counts as a weapon--a mass attack.
pesilat
02-25-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by arnisador
At a 12-to-1 ratio, I think it counts as a weapon--a mass attack.
Yup. That's my opinion, too. If I'm faced with multiple opponents (even just 2 or 3, much less 12), I approach it as if I'm facing a weapon. Problem with groups of attackers is that they tend to goad each other on. A group of attackers is more likely to continue dishing out punishment long after a single attacker would have quit and walked away. And when you've got multiple people (especially 12) stomping holes in you, you're almost certainly going to the hospital, and the chances of going to the morgue are pretty high, too.
Although, this probably wasn't the case when you were in the 8th grade. But, as an adult, if I'm faced with multiple adult attackers, I consider it to be a very serious situation. How serious will depend on the specific situation. But there are conceivable situations (not even stretches) where I would consider my life to be endangered even if there were no weapons involved. And you can bet your sweet looloo that I'd be trying to get hold of something inanimate to use to my advantage.
Mike
Rich Parsons
02-26-2003, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by pesilat
Yup. That's my opinion, too. If I'm faced with multiple opponents (even just 2 or 3, much less 12), I approach it as if I'm facing a weapon. Problem with groups of attackers is that they tend to goad each other on. A group of attackers is more likely to continue dishing out punishment long after a single attacker would have quit and walked away. And when you've got multiple people (especially 12) stomping holes in you, you're almost certainly going to the hospital, and the chances of going to the morgue are pretty high, too.
Although, this probably wasn't the case when you were in the 8th grade. But, as an adult, if I'm faced with multiple adult attackers, I consider it to be a very serious situation. How serious will depend on the specific situation. But there are conceivable situations (not even stretches) where I would consider my life to be endangered even if there were no weapons involved. And you can bet your sweet looloo that I'd be trying to get hold of something inanimate to use to my advantage.
Mike
The Crowd / Multiple opponents.
I also consider multiple opponents to be a weapon. And I agree that I have felt fear and was concerned for for my survival. Some of the thigns I did were not nice and some of my opponents ended up in the hospital. (* I did also a few times *). Yet, I found if I hurt one fo them really bad and gave the rest time to think about the destruction they were going to get themselves.
You see I was the cornered animal and I was not playing anymore, I was serious, there was no holding back. They had to understand that fact. :( :( :eek:
Sorry to ramble on again
pesilat
02-26-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Rich Parsons
The Crowd / Multiple opponents.
I also consider multiple opponents to be a weapon. And I agree that I have felt fear and was concerned for for my survival. Some of the thigns I did were not nice and some of my opponents ended up in the hospital. (* I did also a few times *). Yet, I found if I hurt one fo them really bad and gave the rest time to think about the destruction they were going to get themselves.
You see I was the cornered animal and I was not playing anymore, I was serious, there was no holding back. They had to understand that fact. :( :( :eek:
Sorry to ramble on again
Absolutely. That is a common thing with groups. When you hurt one of them badly and quickly, it reminds the rest of the group that they are, in fact, still individuals.
It doesn't always happen. Sometimes they are too caught up in their mindset that they even notice or think about what happened to their comrade. I assume that after taking the first out of the game, you didn't just stand there and let them assess the situation; you moved to the next ASAP and kept moving and attacking.
In my opinion, once things get physical, there's no such thing as self-defense left. It's all about offense until I find an exit or the threat has been nullified. Then it becomes self-defense again as I exit or try to explain my actions to the authorities.
Mike
tshadowchaser
07-30-2008, 02:50 PM
a couple of times with knives and a couple with sticks ( read bats )
i am still here and came out without serious injury in all cases
dose haveing a baseball or basketball thrown at the back of your head count
bowser666
07-30-2008, 03:16 PM
I have been attacked a few times, once with a broken beer bottle, and once with a knife, a few times barehanded as well. Was able to defend myself and subdue the people, but i did get a nice slice to a finger with that bottle.
bluemtn
07-30-2008, 03:40 PM
Does having a telephone getting thrown at you by an irate fellow employee count? If so, it was offensive, and I didn't have to do anything more than step away and get management.
MA-Caver
07-30-2008, 03:49 PM
Yes, with knives, guns and blunt instruments. I've only used a knife in an offensive manner when the situation changed from defense to offense (I was young and stupid).
There's no such thing as a fair fight.
I've been attacked by multiple attackers many, many times;
been stabbed once in the chest with a switchblade;
head bashed in with a very large, very heavy Maglite flashlight ( http://www.postfreeoutdoorgear.co.uk/acatalog/Maglite-dcell.jpg ) ;
smacked around a bit with a PR-24 baton ( http://mypersonalsafetysolutions.com/pr_24_baton.jpg ) ;
head bashed in / jaw broken with a tire tool (something similar to this: http://www.rx7junkie.com/images/parts/wheels/P2241679.JPG )
Once, while confronted by three attackers, I used escrima sticks with surprising effectiveness considering I had no formal training. Of course, during my moment of surprise I was tackled and subsequently beaten with the above tire tool ;)
Other than that, I've always been unarmed and outnumbered.
celtic_crippler
07-30-2008, 05:02 PM
I've defended myself against a gun and a knife....not at the same time thankfully!
I've used a "boom box" and a board pulled off of a pallet as weapons...the "boom box" was used in the gun scenario mentioned above.
...would you consider a gas hose as a weapon? You know...like at a gas pump....they're great for disarming knife-wielding illegals trying to roll you for cash.
Daniel Sullivan
07-30-2008, 06:25 PM
Please read carefully:
If you have ever been involved in an assault, or attacked, was a weapon involved?
Weapon = knife, gun, stick, pool cue, rock, hammer, bottle, etc.
No, yes, and yes. Never been involved in an assault (I assume that that means doing the assaulting) but I have been attacked, both with and without weapons. Thankfully, I acquitted myself well in each occurrance, resulting in the attackers backing off and all going home relatively unscathed.
Daniel
Daniel Sullivan
07-30-2008, 06:26 PM
Does having a telephone getting thrown at you by an irate fellow employee count? If so, it was offensive, and I didn't have to do anything more than step away and get management.
Do you work with Naomi Campbell?
Daniel
MA-Caver
07-30-2008, 07:36 PM
I've been attacked by multiple attackers many, many times;
been stabbed once in the chest with a switchblade;
head bashed in with a very large, very heavy Maglite flashlight ( http://www.postfreeoutdoorgear.co.uk/acatalog/Maglite-dcell.jpg ) ;
smacked around a bit with a PR-24 baton ( http://mypersonalsafetysolutions.com/pr_24_baton.jpg ) ;
head bashed in / jaw broken with a tire tool (something similar to this: http://www.rx7junkie.com/images/parts/wheels/P2241679.JPG )
Once, while confronted by three attackers, I used escrima sticks with surprising effectiveness considering I had no formal training. Of course, during my moment of surprise I was tackled and subsequently beaten with the above tire tool ;)
Other than that, I've always been unarmed and outnumbered.
Do you just naturally tick people off or do you have to work at it?
Sheesh man. I'd find me a deserted island somewhere so I don't have to worry about all the stuff that's happened to you. Woah.
I mean I've been shot at, stabbed and had to face as many as 8 attackers but have seemed to come out of it alright. So have you.
Made ME wonder if I had a natural proclivity to tick people off.
shihansmurf
07-30-2008, 07:45 PM
IN Ramadi, Iraq my squad and I were performing a cordon and search of several houses. For reasons that now escape me I was armed with an M9 pistol.
So, we were working our way through this rather large and oddly nice home, when we encountered some of the owners of said home. During the shoting I got seperated from the rest of the squad. Bad news. As I found myself alone and in the dark I kicked open what turned out to be a bedroom door. As I stepped in the inhabitant swung a claw hammer at me. I ducked but he managed to hit me in the arm with his forearm which caused me to drop the pistol (it also went off, in a rather small cement room, a fact I didn't notice until a bit later).
I grabbed him in the clinch and kneed him in the groin. Osoto gari followed that. I was able to get the mount, then I proceeded to hit him with straight rights until the rest of my squad showed up.
Like all good war stories I survived and the bad guy was carted off me the medics with a lot of structural damage to his face and a ruptured testicle.
I sprained my wrist and vomited from the god awful adrenaline surge. In all my life I never thought I would have someone attack me with a hammer in a combat zone. Shot at, IED's and mortars I understood, but a hammer?
That's my only cool story about being attacked with a weapon. Well, if I understand the op's intent. I've been shot at, shelled, and nearly blown up in an IED(most of the gray matter still intact, although I was in a coma for three days) but all that is normal occupational hazard type stuff for a soldier. That hammer incident, though...
Mark
Twin Fist
07-30-2008, 08:42 PM
yes and yes, it sucks
Cirdan
07-31-2008, 02:35 AM
Been attacked a few times. No weapons unless you count two would-be muggers using their belts.
Do you just naturally tick people off or do you have to work at it?
Er.. little of both :)
Not so much anymore. I've decided that while people really do need hear things, it doesn't necessarily need to be ME telling them. And me NOT telling them generally results in a better day than if I do. ;)
terryl965
07-31-2008, 08:05 PM
Been stabbed with a knife in the stomach, it was not fun but then again he was having much fun either for a few weeks. I will only use extreme force when a weapon is involved.
MA-Caver
07-31-2008, 10:08 PM
Er.. little of both :)
Not so much anymore. I've decided that while people really do need hear things, it doesn't necessarily need to be ME telling them. And me NOT telling them generally results in a better day than if I do. ;)
Yah, I had to learn that the hard way too. :lfao:
kailat
07-31-2008, 10:20 PM
Yes, tree limbs, a tire iron, a knife, and a pair brass knuckles. all seperate occassions...LOL...god I had a rough childhood. Not really, but i just seemed to find myself in some rough situations.. probably alot to do w/ who i hung out w/ and the mentality I had back then. But answer is YES!! Still have the scars to remind me of those days too... not so good!!!
naneek
07-31-2008, 10:20 PM
yes i have been attacked with a variety of weapons knives , broken bottles , baseball bats, batons, bar stools also may un armed conficts too, most times no damage occured to me except with the knife i got slashed on my fore arm requiring 32 stiches ouch
... most times no damage occured to me except with the knife i got slashed on my fore arm requiring 32 stiches ouch
I gotta ask: did the slash hurt when it happened or later?
When I got stabbed, I wasn't even sure I got stabbed until I got to another location, took off my shirt, and saw the blood.
Now, once they started cleaning it out with humungous Q-tips and iodine.. THEN it was a BIG ouch!
Ceicei
08-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Yes, I've been attacked. No weapons, but I did use my knee.
tshadowchaser
09-13-2008, 05:56 AM
Dose the use of a iron frying pan swung by my wife in a moment of anger count
Yes it connected with the side of my head and hot eggs went all over the place
Adept
09-17-2008, 05:26 AM
Been hit with bottles, glasses, ashtrays, poolcues, and I've got a neat little scar across my eyebrow where I was beaned in the noggin with a microphone stand...
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