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Matt Stone
02-14-2003, 09:37 PM
It has come to the fore in another thread that the specific details of a person's training can lead to an understanding of their grading/ranking and qualifications as an instructor or senior student.

In an effort to better clarify backgrounds, I propose we begin providing specific information, dates, durations of training and with whom, etc., for any who are willing to share.

Here's mine:

I began training in Yiliquan in October 1985 under the direct instruction of Sifu Phillip Starr (founder and headmaster of Yiliquan).

I trained until June 1987, when I went into the Army.

I was in the Army from June 1987 - May 1990. During that time I continued to practice the forms and techniques I had learned during my previous training. I practiced with people from Shotokan, TKD, Wing Chun and Drunken Kung Fu since they were the only people I could find that were worthy of spending time with. I didn't learn their methods, we just provided each other with punching dummies.

I returned to training some time late in 1990. I don't remember when. In 1991 I was tested and promoted to Advanced Level 7 (two tests below Senior grade, or "black belt" level).

In 1991 I was authorized to begin teaching at a small class location by Sifu Starr. I taught the class in tandem with another classmate, Tim Heuertz.

Sometime after that class terminated, I taught a class at a TKD school, and a class at a combined martial arts school called Dojo Omaha.

Our school closed and our teacher retired from teaching in 1992.

I reenlisted in the Army and returned to active duty in March of 1995. I continued to train with the material I had learned to that point.

From 1995 until 1997 I taught at Fort Riley, Kansas. I was the only martial arts instructor with an official class on the installation at that time.

In July 1998 I was tested by now Sifu Tim Heuertz (who was senior to me and authorized to test me by our mutual teacher, Sifu Starr) to Senior Level 1 (black belt level).

In 1999 I was reassigned to Camp Zama, Japan. In late 1999 I began teaching Yiliquan and a small Taijiquan class. I taught until just before I left Japan in 2002. I studied Shuri-te Ha Karate-do for about 2 - 3 months until the schedule simply became too difficult to manage with my work and home life. I studied Modern Arnis under Guro John Lehmann from around October 2001 until just before I left in September 2002. I began studying Ryu Te Karate under Sensei Robert Rousselot informally for the last few months before I left. I have no formal rank in any of those styles at all. I taught two Modern Arnis seminars in Gifu, Japan on behalf of Guro Lehmann, at his direction and authorization.

In 2000, Sifu Starr returned to teaching the previous Yiliquan students that remained in training after his retirement. In November of 2000 I was promoted by Sifu Starr to Senior Level 2.

In September 2002 I was reassigned to Fort Lewis, Washington. I continue training with Sifu Mark Hachey and his Yiliquan club in Puyallup, Washington.

Anybody else want to pony up with their details? Since details are what are asked of some (and not forthcoming from others), I figured I would set the tone... I have nothing to hide, and I demonstrate that by laying my cards on the table for any to question.

Don't forget, dates and durations are important...

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

chufeng
02-14-2003, 10:54 PM
Prior to Yili, I studied both Judo and TaeKwonDo...I had five years of Judo and had attained the rank of Sankyu...Prior to these arts I wrestled and boxed (both of my brothers were Golden Gloves champions for ten years in a seven state region...John actually fought for the US team overseas...I regularly kicked his butt, but was not interested in competing)...none of those arts had what I was looking for...

I studied YiLi with Sifu Starr from October, 1982 thru June, 1986.
Then I joined the Army (for a second time)...
I trained at the kwoon 4 to 6 days a week and attended every "weekend intensive seminar" that was offered (5 hours on Friday evening...0730 - 2300 on Saturday...and 0730 to 1730 on Sunday), they were offered about three times a year. When I trained at the kwoon, I sometimes would attend morning and evening classes and would train for three hours at home, as well.

I also attended a number of seminars in other systems...
Oyata Sensei x 2...Nishiyama Sensei x 1...Fusaro Sensei x 1...Smaby Sensei x 5...

It seems like a short time (4 years) but when you add up the hours...it was the equivalant of maybe 9 years at a regular dojo.

Once I left Iowa, I trained for 3 to 7 hours every day...1986 to 1991...(during this time I also trained in Aikido and FutGar Kung Fu...I found those same elements in our system...)

I taught YiLi to anyone interested...many people came (mostly black belts), few stuck around...training is hard...and when it comes to meeting the "standard" for our system, I am a butthead.

In 1991, I started my Master's program in anesthesia...I had to cut back on my training...but the time I put in up front paid off in spades...because, even though I'm a broken down fat fart now, I can still whoop Yiliquan1's butt

At any rate...the secret to skill in any art is simply HARD WORK...
I am as much a student now as I was when I walked through the
doors of Sifu Starr's school back in 1982...

:asian:
chufeng

Matt Stone
02-17-2003, 05:00 PM
Just to get this back up to the top of the forum...

Is anyone else going to post their background, or not?

This has had nearly 50 views, but only 2 posts of background and training...

Too many lurkers!

:shotgun: :stoplurk: :enfo:

pesilat
02-17-2003, 05:46 PM
I began training at age 8 in 1979 in Tae Kwon Do. I was a 7th Gup when my instructor had to quit teaching to pursue her career. I then began training in Okinawan Goju-Ryu Karate and had attained a 5th Kyu when my parents pulled me from the class so I'd have more time to devote to homework. For several years, I didn't officially study anywhere but continued to train and spar with friends who were still involved in the martial arts. In 1993, I returned to Okinawan Goju-Ryu and started as a white belt again. I had again worked my way up to 5th Kyu when I met Guru Ken Pannell at Asian Fighting Arts in Dayton, Ohio and was introduced to Sikal (a blend of elements from several systems of Filipino Kali and Indonesian Pentjak Silat).

I've trained intensively under Guru Ken Pannell in the system of Sikal since February 1995 and earned my full instructorship in Sikal in September 1999. I still regularly visit Guru Ken to continue training in Sikal. I also hold a fourth degree black belt in Doce Pares Eskrima/Eskrido from Grandmaster Cacoy Canete. (see the "Dan rank in another system" for details on that)

I met Willem "Uncle Bill" de Thouars in 1998 and was exposed to his Kun Tao Silat system. I trained informally in it until January 2002 when I formally became a student under Uncle Bill.

I moved to Nacogdoches, Texas in February 2001 to train in Shen Chuan, get mentoring in writing from Professor Joe Lansdale, and to teach some Sikal at Professor Lansdale's school.

In September 2002, I was awarded with a 2nd Dan in Shen Chuan from Professor Lansdale. In October 2002, I moved to Louisville, Kentucky and started I.M.P.A.C.T. Academy.

I now teach a Kali curriculum and a Silat curriculum (drawn from the Sikal curriculum that I learned from Guru Ken). I teach the Shen Chuan curriculum I learned from Professor Lansdale. And I run a Kun Tao Silat de Thouars training group (I'm not an instructor under Uncle Bill, but have his blessing to run the training group).

Mike

Aegis
02-17-2003, 06:18 PM
Well, ok, why not. Shouldn't exactly take me long!

I started training in Judo at age 10 or so. After several years of "fun" training, I got into the competetive side and fought for grades up to and including 1st Kyu. After that I started to realise that I preferred to teach te system rather than fight using it, and took my Preliminary Club Coach Award and my Club Coach Award with the BJA. After 2 years or so of helping to coach at my instructors club, I allowed my awards to expire when I realised that there was more elsewhere to offer me.

At about the time I stopped going for gradings, I started learning Jujitsu. For a while I was in a competetive Jujitsu style, and that seemed better to me, until I found a much more traditional club over a year later.

I now train almost exclusively in that style of Jujitsu, and am always trying to improve my ability enough to get to the next grade (where we get to learn different techniques)

James Kovacich
02-17-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Aegis
Well, ok, why not. Shouldn't exactly take me long!

I started training in Judo at age 10 or so. After several years of "fun" training, I got into the competetive side and fought for grades up to and including 1st Kyu. After that I started to realise that I preferred to teach te system rather than fight using it, and took my Preliminary Club Coach Award and my Club Coach Award with the BJA. After 2 years or so of helping to coach at my instructors club, I allowed my awards to expire when I realised that there was more elsewhere to offer me.

At about the time I stopped going for gradings, I started learning Jujitsu. For a while I was in a competetive Jujitsu style, and that seemed better to me, until I found a much more traditional club over a year later.

I now train almost exclusively in that style of Jujitsu, and am always trying to improve my ability enough to get to the next grade (where we get to learn different techniques)


That was a bit generic. You left out who exactly trained you and where. Using the words Judo and Judo is not complete.

Aegis
02-17-2003, 07:38 PM
But then I haven't claimed to be teaching a new system, so who I trained with is not relevant information. If requested I can give my British Judo Association lisence number which can probably be used to verify that I do indeed hold a brown in Judo. I could also supply my information for the 2 styles of Jujitsu that I do, but since I only have an orange and a yellow in them, I don't think you'd be too interested in tracking down those grades.

If I was back home I could also dig out my Coach number, but I never bothered to memorise that.

However, as I pointed out, I'm not teaching anyone anything. If people are more interested in my training, I'm sure I can answer more specific questions. I'm not claiming to have anywhere near mastered anything, and in fact only claim remotely high rank in one art, which I have stopped training in. My credentials are only on display because people were getting irritated that members of this board were not posting their training history.

karatekid1975
02-17-2003, 09:00 PM
Ok, I'll give it a shot. It's not much, though.

I trained in Tang Soo Do (mixed with Hapkido) for a year and a half ( www.imahq.net ). I reached 5th gup (before moving).

I did a little bit of Jujitsu ( www.ajjf.org ) also, but never made it past white belt (because I moved).

I moved to NY. I've been doing a TKD style that is mixed with Kung Fu/Chin Na and WTF style TKD. I'm currently a blue belt.

I just started Judo (US Judo Fed). I'm just a white belt.

GaryM
02-17-2003, 09:11 PM
Eight years training under Sammy Torres in American Kenpo, two as assistant instructor, two as instructor. Three more years teaching on my own. One A.T.A.M.A seminar, one seminar with Mark Boy (Earl Montaigue student). Few other seminars not worth mentioning so I won't.

James Kovacich
02-17-2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Aegis
But then I haven't claimed to be teaching a new system, so who I trained with is not relevant information. If requested I can give my British Judo Association lisence number which can probably be used to verify that I do indeed hold a brown in Judo. I could also supply my information for the 2 styles of Jujitsu that I do, but since I only have an orange and a yellow in them, I don't think you'd be too interested in tracking down those grades.

If I was back home I could also dig out my Coach number, but I never bothered to memorise that.

However, as I pointed out, I'm not teaching anyone anything. If people are more interested in my training, I'm sure I can answer more specific questions. I'm not claiming to have anywhere near mastered anything, and in fact only claim remotely high rank in one art, which I have stopped training in. My credentials are only on display because people were getting irritated that members of this board were not posting their training history.


Don't take it wrong. When I put myself out there you were one of the ones who offered opinion but kepts us in the dark about where your opinion comes from, thats all.

I may be wrong but I think a timeline was where it was headed. Thats how it started anyway. I've exposed myself honestly and dealt with a lot of "stuff" coming out of left field. I'm not trying to discredit anybody at all. But I know you went through the posts because you had your opinion.

Claiming to teach a new system has nothing to do with it! Your opening line is my proof of how the responses were towards me. You know if someone talks smack to me, I am going to give it right back. And I've been smacked around.

RyuShiKan
02-17-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by akja
You know if someone talks smack to me, I am going to give it right back. And I've been smacked around.


Don't you just lower yourself to their level at taht point.........
Wouldn't it be better to reply with a sound & logical point of view?

chufeng
02-18-2003, 11:09 AM
Thats how it started anyway. I've exposed myself honestly and dealt with a lot of "stuff" coming out of left field. I'm not trying to discredit anybody at all.

Excuse me...I'm coming out of right field...and occasionally the pitcher's mound...but never left field;)

:asian:
chufeng

James Kovacich
02-19-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by chufeng
Excuse me...I'm coming out of right field...and occasionally the pitcher's mound...but never left field;)

:asian:
chufeng

The one coming out of left field were not the few that I talked to the most this last week. I was referring to the ones that strike and dissapear.

Disco
02-19-2003, 10:14 AM
Been training for over 30 years.

Started in Brooklyn N.Y. with Master Vinny Boombotts
Style - Busta-U-Assa
Rank - Only made it to knee breaker 1st degree

Then went and trained with Lance Midriff in San Francisco
Style - Limp-Wrist-Whinning
Rank - 2nd Degree Prancer
(I HEARD THAT.....Hey! I believe in cross training)
Wanted to get into submission holding, but could'nt find a teacher

Then went back to N.Y. And studied with the famous Russian female Master Ivana Humpalot.
Style - Squeeze-A-Testee
Rank - Seducer 3rd Degree

Was then able to get back with my first Instructor (Paroled)
I was fortunate enough to have him take me to Italy (Deported) to study at their famous school (Whats-Amatter-U).
Main Interest was weapons training (Ice Pick, Ball Bat, Tire Iron and Silencer).

Would have also told you about my advanced training with the great Polish Mime Master, but I did'nt want to give you guys any ammo to make light of the training.

But I could use some input. Been thinking about my own style/system combining all my training. Kind of stuck for a name though. Any suggestions?

pesilat
02-19-2003, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Disco
Been training for over 30 years.

Started in Brooklyn N.Y. with Master Vinny Boombotts
Style - Busta-U-Assa
Rank - Only made it to knee breaker 1st degree

Then went and trained with Lance Midriff in San Francisco
Style - Limp-Wrist-Whinning
Rank - 2nd Degree Prancer
(I HEARD THAT.....Hey! I believe in cross training)
Wanted to get into submission holding, but could'nt find a teacher

Then went back to N.Y. And studied with the famous Russian female Master Ivana Humpalot.
Style - Squeeze-A-Testee
Rank - Seducer 3rd Degree

Was then able to get back with my first Instructor (Paroled)
I was fortunate enough to have him take me to Italy (Deported) to study at their famous school (Whats-Amatter-U).
Main Interest was weapons training (Ice Pick, Ball Bat, Tire Iron and Silencer).

Would have also told you about my advanced training with the great Polish Mime Master, but I did'nt want to give you guys any ammo to make light of the training.

But I could use some input. Been thinking about my own style/system combining all my training. Kind of stuck for a name though. Any suggestions?

"Busta-Limp-Testee"?

Mike

Disco
02-19-2003, 10:56 AM
HEY! I like it......... Has that kind of continental sav wha fair ring to it.

No belt ranks though. I think we'll issue scarfs.......

Zujitsuka
02-19-2003, 12:35 PM
1985 - 1988: Shotokan Karate and Sanuces Jujutsu

1990 - 1992: Judo

1991 - 1993: TaeKwonDo and Hapkido

1993 to present: Zujitsu (an eclectic martial art using concepts from Aikido, Jujutsu, Goju Karate, Judo, and TaeKwonDo)

2002 to present: Western Boxing


Keep on learnin' folks because as the founder of the McDonald franchise, Ray Kroc said, "When you're green you're growing. Once you think you're ripe, all that you can do is rot."

Peace & blessings,

James Kovacich
02-19-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Zujitsuka
1985 - 1988: Shotokan Karate and Sanuces Jujutsu

1990 - 1992: Judo

1991 - 1993: TaeKwonDo and Hapkido

1993 to present: Zujitsu (an eclectic martial art using concepts from Aikido, Jujutsu, Goju Karate, Judo, and TaeKwonDo)

2002 to present: Western Boxing


Keep on learnin' folks because as the founder of the McDonald franchise, Ray Kroc said, "When you're green you're growing. Once you think you're ripe, all that you can do is rot."

Peace & blessings,

Did you have a chance to learn directly from, Moses Powell?

Zujitsuka
02-19-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by akja
Did you have a chance to learn directly from, Moses Powell?

No I did not have the opportunity to train directly with Master Powell. I was trained informally by a neighbor's dad who is a black belt in the system. Also, I have trained directly with Master Chaka Zulu, the founder of 'Zujitsu' who earned his black belt in Sanuces Jujutsu directly by Master Powell.

Peace,

A.R.K.
02-19-2003, 07:38 PM
1972 - began Uechi-ryu and trained to Green belt. Due to changes in the systems hierarchy in Okinawa different factions spit off. Continued on in Pangai-noon off shoot as well as boxing [Grandfather was Golden gloves].

1980 - First Dan.

1983 - Second Dan.

1986 - 3rd Dan, taught military personel Incirlik AB, Turkey. Brad Barnett my Instructor.

1988 - 4th Dan, taught military personel Mcguire AFB, NJ. Instructor James Hill.

1990 - Began training in Shuri Te under Bob Harmer. American off shoot of Shuri Ryu. Began Academy. Began working on the unnamed ZDW system in ernest.

1993 - 5th Dan Pangai-noon A.J. Leverett. First Dan Shuri Te. E.P. Training K.C. Poulin & Ed Wilson. Chemical weapons Instructor O.C.S.O.

1995 - 2nd Dan Shuri Te. Began teaching the as yet unnamed system of ZDW to off duty LEO's. Began training in Chin Na under R. Wilson

1996 - Police D.T. Instructor [John Dressback S.P.P.D.], Police Firearms Instructor J.J. Webber P.C.S.O.], Police Emergency Preparedness Instructor.

1997 - 6th Dan Pangai-noon.

1998 - 3rd Dan Shuri Te.

1999 - Israeli Instinctive Shooting Instructor [Hunan Yadin].

2000 - 4th Dan Shuri Te. Trained under Tony Blauer [S.E.P.S.I.].

2001 - 7th Dan Pangai-noon. Edged weapon Instructor [Sir Peter Boatman]. High Liabilty Instructors-Only seminar with Joe Hess& Tony Lambria [Lead D.T. Instructor for F.L.E.T.C.]. Began training in Catch-as-Catch-can Submission wrestling under G. Long [who trained under Matt Furey].

2002 - Krav Maga practioner [Moti Horenstein], Official recognition of ZDW system. KYHA Florida representative. 5th Dan Shuri Te Michael Dunn. Martial Arts Association of Asia Hall of Fame inductee.

2003 - 8th Dan Pangai-noon. Worldwide Alliance of Martial Artist's Hall of Fame Inductee[Law Enforcement Trainer of the Year].

As I stated earlier the 8th was probably a mistake as it was rushed and I should have been content with 7th as I'm no longer active in teaching this system. But thats 20-20 hindsight. Overall I am satisfied with everything. Looking forward to enhancing things :)

chufeng
02-19-2003, 07:44 PM
:asian:
chufeng

A.R.K.
02-19-2003, 07:59 PM
Chufeng,

I noticed from your profile your involvements in Chinese arts such as Yiliquan etc. I am interested if you have some indepth information, history, background, techiques etc to direct me to. I'm always on the look out to improve what I know.

I have found Chin Na to be one of the most useful techniques in my line of work. If I had to put a % to it I would say I use these types of techniques [joint locks, joint maipulation, pain compliance etc] 90% of the time on duty. Anything along these lines would be very welcome information indeed.

Thank you. :)

Abbax8
02-19-2003, 08:18 PM
Began to train at the Phoenixville YMCA 1967 Judo, Barbara Alexander Nikyu, instructor, Don Rohrabaugh, Sankyu assistant.

I assisted Mr Rohrabaugh in 1968 and 69 to teach a junior class on Saturday mornings.

Up to 1972 I achieved the rank of junior nikyu, then upon turning 17 dropped two ranks. As a senior moved up back to Nikyu by 1974. I was now assistant instructor- St. Ann's Judo Club. Promotions through USJF- Shufu Yudanshikai. Many testings done at Ishikawa's Judo School, Philadelphia, PA.

1974 to 1976 in college at Penn State and doing some judo, but a bad knee kept from training hard.

1977- Enrolled at Ursinus College. With my partner restarted to MA Club.

With my partner, William Clarke, we taught a for credit PE course on judo and self defense that we were enrolled in. We knew more than the instructor.

1980- graduated. Some practice with my friends, nothing formal.

1994- Opened my on club- Kyu Shin Do Dojo. Classes in Altoona and Ebensburg. Promoted to Ikkyu.

1995- Promoted to Shodan at a USJA camp in Bryn Mawr, PA.

1997- Promoted to Nidan, current rank. Currently teach a combined class, kids and adults, twice a week. Also hold a Level 1 Certified Coach Certificate from USJA.

Peace
Dennis

RyuShiKan
03-01-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
1972 - began Uechi-ryu and trained to Green belt. Due to changes in the systems hierarchy in Okinawa different factions spit off. Continued on in Pangai-noon off shoot

First you lead us to believe it was THE Pangainoon and now you say it is an offshoot.
How many times are you going to change the story or try to deceive people?


Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei

1997 - 6th Dan Pangai-noon.
And who issued that? (Instructor’s name?)


Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
2001 - 7th Dan Pangai-noon.

And who issued that? (Instructor’s name?)


Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
2003 - 8th Dan Pangai-noon.

And who issued that? (Instructor’s name?)

A.R.K.
03-01-2003, 05:41 PM
I'm having the best time with you :D

chufeng
03-01-2003, 06:11 PM
Zhao,


I am interested if you have some indepth information, history, background, techiques etc to direct me to. I'm always on the look out to improve what I know.

Have you checked our school link?
It is in Yiliquan1's profile...or you can go to "schools" we have a link down there.

But, you will need to find someone who can SHOW you how things work...books are OK references IF you already know the technique...

The books that have helped me most with my development in YiLi are philosophical works.

:asian:
chufeng

A.R.K.
03-01-2003, 07:47 PM
Chufeng,

Thanks, I'll check out the site. :)

Johnathan Napalm
03-02-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
I'm having the best time with you :D

Why wouldn't you answer his questions?

A.R.K.
03-04-2003, 08:11 PM
Because I've completed enough of a job application as it is and have posted more about myself and offered contacts for verification in various threads, PM's and emails than 95% of the posters here.

Only one person here has bothered to check me out first hand...and he is now my student.

If that is not enough for you...learn to live with it.

Johnathan Napalm
03-05-2003, 12:03 PM
RSK's questions are simple. How could you NOT remember your instructors' names? huh? I am shocked!

A.R.K.
03-05-2003, 06:34 PM
Has nothing to do with remembering. The answer is right in the post. If you are unable to understand that...well what can I say. I'm as legitimate as anyone here AND with practical experience. Which as I've said, only one poster here has actually checked out first hand rather than issue unsubstantiated accusations...and they are now one of my students. If anyone wants to continue to talk trash, it is through ignorance or merely because they like to cause problems.

Your just mad cause of the direction of the other thread. :rolleyes:

Disco
03-05-2003, 07:39 PM
AH! Grasshoppers, Do we have a case of Re-incarnation?

A.R.K.
03-05-2003, 07:45 PM
Nah, just a case of beating a dead horse :D

DAC..florida
03-06-2003, 12:54 AM
I started in TKD at age seven in Rhode Island my instructors names were David P. Valdez, William Maher and Robert D'benadeto...............1982 to 1991 in 1984 the shcool i was attending closed and myself and a friend began private 5hr lessons twice a week until I moved to florida in 1991 I was a bit of a hellion as a child and this was my fathers way of diclipine.......It worked.
from 1991 thru 1995 I continued training in several shcools in my area never really calling any home for too long.
from 1995 thru present Ive been training in TKD I also have over 3500 hrs. of law enforcement self defence training and seminars.

Recently I have been training in self defence, grappling, ground fighting and close quarters combat with an american who has founded thier own style and I am very excited about this new training.

In summary I guess you could say I have some martial arts experience....I like to consider myself as merly a serious student!

James Kovacich
03-06-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by DAC..florida
I started in TKD at age seven in Rhode Island my instructors names were David P. Valdez, William Maher and Robert D'benadeto...............1982 to 1991 in 1984 the shcool i was attending closed and myself and a friend began private 5hr lessons twice a week until I moved to florida in 1991 I was a bit of a hellion as a child and this was my fathers way of diclipine.......It worked.
from 1991 thru 1995 I continued training in several shcools in my area never really calling any home for too long.
from 1995 thru present Ive been training in TKD I also have over 3500 hrs. of law enforcement self defence training and seminars.

Recently I have been training in self defence, grappling, ground fighting and close quarters combat with an american who has founded thier own style and I am very excited about this new training.

In summary I guess you could say I have some martial arts experience....I like to consider myself as merly a serious student!

So are you ZDW's new student?

Johnathan Napalm
03-06-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Mya Ryu Jitsu
Has nothing to do with remembering. The answer is right in the post. If you are unable to understand that...well what can I say. I'm as legitimate as anyone here AND with practical experience. Which as I've said, only one poster here has actually checked out first hand rather than issue unsubstantiated accusations...and they are now one of my students. If anyone wants to continue to talk trash, it is through ignorance or merely because they like to cause problems.

Your just mad cause of the direction of the other thread. :rolleyes:

Seems to me, you are unable to answer a straight forward question. Yet, you are quick to make assumption about everyone else. RSK asked you who awarded you those ranks. Why can't you just answer those easy questions? WHo here would have a problem sharing information about the name of their instructors? Seems to me, because the answers can be verified, they are hard to fake. You are simply giving the impression that you are trying to weasel your way out of it. So, by avoiding the question and making accusation, you are doing your reputation and credibility more harm.

Matt Stone
03-06-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Mya Ryu Jitsu
1972 - began Uechi-ryu and trained to Green belt. Due to changes in the systems hierarchy in Okinawa different factions spit off. Continued on in Pangai-noon off shoot as well as boxing [Grandfather was Golden gloves].

1980 - First Dan.

1983 - Second Dan.

1986 - 3rd Dan, taught military personel Incirlik AB, Turkey. Brad Barnett my Instructor.

1988 - 4th Dan, taught military personel Mcguire AFB, NJ. Instructor James Hill.

1990 - Began training in Shuri Te under Bob Harmer. American off shoot of Shuri Ryu. Began Academy. Began working on the unnamed ZDW system in ernest.

1993 - 5th Dan Pangai-noon A.J. Leverett. First Dan Shuri Te. E.P. Training K.C. Poulin & Ed Wilson. Chemical weapons Instructor O.C.S.O.

1995 - 2nd Dan Shuri Te. Began teaching the as yet unnamed system of ZDW to off duty LEO's. Began training in Chin Na under R. Wilson

1996 - Police D.T. Instructor [John Dressback S.P.P.D.], Police Firearms Instructor J.J. Webber P.C.S.O.], Police Emergency Preparedness Instructor.

1997 - 6th Dan Pangai-noon.

1998 - 3rd Dan Shuri Te.

1999 - Israeli Instinctive Shooting Instructor [Hunan Yadin].

2000 - 4th Dan Shuri Te. Trained under Tony Blauer [S.E.P.S.I.].

2001 - 7th Dan Pangai-noon. Edged weapon Instructor [Sir Peter Boatman]. High Liabilty Instructors-Only seminar with Joe Hess& Tony Lambria [Lead D.T. Instructor for F.L.E.T.C.]. Began training in Catch-as-Catch-can Submission wrestling under G. Long [who trained under Matt Furey].

2002 - Krav Maga practioner [Moti Horenstein], Official recognition of ZDW system. KYHA Florida representative. 5th Dan Shuri Te Michael Dunn. Martial Arts Association of Asia Hall of Fame inductee.

2003 - 8th Dan Pangai-noon. Worldwide Alliance of Martial Artist's Hall of Fame Inductee[Law Enforcement Trainer of the Year].

As I stated earlier the 8th was probably a mistake as it was rushed and I should have been content with 7th as I'm no longer active in teaching this system. But thats 20-20 hindsight. Overall I am satisfied with everything. Looking forward to enhancing things :)

This was posted earlier by ZDW, teacher of Zhao Dai Wei (now recently renamed to Mya Ryu Jitsu - though the spelling of the last word is still incorrect). He lists the names of a number of instructors that he alleges promoted him to the grades stated.

It appears, to me at any rate, that he has finally met RyuShiKan's request. I only wonder why it took so long...

ZDW/MRJ, what does Mya Ryu Jutsu mean?

Thanks.

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

DAC..florida
03-06-2003, 10:34 PM
To ajka


to answer your question, yes I am ZDW's student, and I must admit I am impressed.

As you can see I benefited from this site, over the years I have trained with at least 50 Martial Artist's and I can honestly say that he is the real deal. He has plenty of credentials and wall candy but he also has the skills to back it up! and in my book thats what really matters, ZDW made me an offer thru a PM to train with him at his dojo and I accepted now Im hooked I extend this offer to anyone who is planning to visit this area, trust me when I say I dont think youll be disapointed, I thought my skills in self defence were pretty good, not to knock them but I still have much to learn. ZDW and myself only live about one hr. apart in neighboring counties so I understand it was easy for me to take him up on his offer, I would like someday to meet all of you if possible.

Cthulhu
03-06-2003, 10:36 PM
I go to the Tampa area from time to time to see family. May look him up one of those times, if I have the spare time during the trip.

Cthulhu

DAC..florida
03-06-2003, 10:44 PM
cthuhu


send me a PM or e-mail with dates when your heading down I would love to meet with and share some techniques. I cant speek for ZDW but Im sure he would agree.

chufeng
03-06-2003, 10:55 PM
DAC,

I HIGHLY suspected you were ZDW's student when you first posted on the thread that asked if it was OK to gain rank recognition from others outside of your art.

Quite frankly, I could care less if ZDW (or whatever he chooses to call himself these days) teaches whatever it is he teaches...
I only hope that WHAT he teaches is helpful to his students.

I don't want to cast doubt on his students...
BUT, the terminology he used before was highly suspiscious.
OK, he didn't know...I accept that...many "sensei" in this country have been sold a bunch of crap about lineage and other things...
Doesn't mean they can't fight...doesn't necessarily make them bad teachers...but it does lump them together with those who would use titles to gain economic advantage at the cost of the ignorant...

ZDW has changed some of the terminology on his website...has it changed his teaching style? NO!

If he is legitimate, as you say, then the semantics should be small potatoes to you and your fellow students...

From the posts I've read (not counting the arguments) he seems to be genuinely interested in providing his students with the best he can offer...

My only complaint (and it is no longer an issue) was his absolute unwillingness to post his training history and WHO promoted him.
He has done that recently...and for that I thank him...

I've got certificates that say grandiose things...but, I don't feel grandiose (except maybe when I'm trying to get into a pair of pants that fit fit me four years ago)...
I recently changed my martial arts business card...it shows no rank...just that I teach, and I learn...

I think most folks will notice that once ZDW posted his biography, I backed off...way off...

Now, on with the discussions on this darn webBoard...

:asian:
chufeng

DAC..florida
03-06-2003, 11:20 PM
The only comment I choose to make about that is that I have been training in the martial arts for a long time I have seen fake and ZDW knows how to teach self defence that really works I do work in a career where unfortunatelly I do have to test my skills occasionally. ZDW is the real deal in the dojo and I would not want to be on the recieving end of a real life attack by him.

chufeng
03-06-2003, 11:32 PM
Then I congratulate both of you...

I am not opposed to innovation in the arts...only in fakery.

If what you say about ZDW, is true...I'm OK with that...

I commend you on being ballsy enough to defend your teacher in an open forum...very nice to see...

good training to both of you...

:asian:
chufeng

DAC..florida
03-06-2003, 11:37 PM
chufeng

I thank you and hope if youre ever in florida you look me up I would like to meet you, you seem like a true martial artist.

James Kovacich
03-07-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by DAC..florida
To ajka


to answer your question, yes I am ZDW's student, and I must admit I am impressed.

As you can see I benefited from this site, over the years I have trained with at least 50 Martial Artist's and I can honestly say that he is the real deal. He has plenty of credentials and wall candy but he also has the skills to back it up! and in my book thats what really matters, ZDW made me an offer thru a PM to train with him at his dojo and I accepted now Im hooked I extend this offer to anyone who is planning to visit this area, trust me when I say I dont think youll be disapointed, I thought my skills in self defence were pretty good, not to knock them but I still have much to learn. ZDW and myself only live about one hr. apart in neighboring counties so I understand it was easy for me to take him up on his offer, I would like someday to meet all of you if possible.

I'm glad that you are a positive individual in the sometimes cruel world.

I too hope to train with many of the people I talk to in here. I'm hoping that I can put everything in place so that I can quit working in the stressful Silicon Valley and go full time with martial arts. That will leave me the time to travel the states and train with my instructors and students and friends!

A.R.K.
03-07-2003, 07:47 PM
I need to interject a quick point here. D.A.C. is one of my students, but not the one I refered to earlier here and in another thread. When Jason from Glocktalk told me about this site a month or so ago I in turn told all of the people I knew who were into the MA's. I have enjoyed GT so much and learned so much that I felt this site would be the same....and I was right :)

There are actually a few of my folks here, though some simply lurk. As a little ha ha on me none of them told me they had registered or what their screen names were. When I saw D.A.C.'s post and that he was LEO in Florida I sent him a PM to come and train with us. Thats the PM he was refering to above [it's an in-joke now at our school :D ]. They all got a laugh on me the next day because D.A.C. has been with me for three years now and here I am thinking he's a new guy for training. He's a good man and a damn fine MA's.


Isn't it against dojo rules to mess with your Sensei's mind like that
:idunno: :cheers:

DAC..florida
07-03-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by DAC..florida
I started in TKD at age seven in Rhode Island my instructors names were David P. Valdez, William Maher and Robert D'benadeto...............1982 to 1991 in 1984 the shcool i was attending closed and myself and a friend began private 5hr lessons twice a week until I moved to florida in 1991 I was a bit of a hellion as a child and this was my fathers way of diclipine.......It worked.
from 1991 thru 1995 I continued training in several shcools in my area never really calling any home for too long.
from 1995 thru present Ive been training in TKD I also have over 3500 hrs. of law enforcement self defence training and seminars.

Recently I have been training in self defence, grappling, ground fighting and close quarters combat with an american who has founded thier own style and I am very excited about this new training.

In summary I guess you could say I have some martial arts experience....I like to consider myself as merly a serious student!


American Realistic Karate 4th dan, Instructor (Founder)D.Schultz

TKD 3rd dan, Instructor Master Michael Dunn(4th dan Kukkiwon)

Hapkido 2nd dan, Instructor Michael Dunn


WHO ELSE WILL POST THIERS! This should end some confusion about what everyone claims.
:asian:

James Kovacich
07-03-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by DAC..florida
American Realistic Karate 4th dan, Instructor (Founder)D.Schultz

TKD 3rd dan, Instructor Master Michael Dunn(4th dan Kukkiwon)

Hapkido 2nd dan, Instructor Michael Dunn


WHO ELSE WILL POST THIERS! This should end some confusion about what everyone claims.
:asian:

5th Dan, Kempo Jujitsu - National College of Martial Arts :asian:

lhommedieu
07-03-2003, 12:56 PM
Training in Pekiti Tersia Arnis under Mike Berkeley and Agapito Gonzales, 1994-1996. Currently training in Pekiti Tirsia Espada y Daga, with Tuhon Billy McGrath.

Training in Estacada under Bill Schettino 1994-Present. Black Belt (Si-Sook) in Estacada-Kajukenbo. Member, Black Belt Society, KSDI.

Training in Xing Yi Quan, under Tom Bisio, 1994-Present.

Training in San Miguel Eskrima under Tom Biso 1995 - Present. Currently teaching SME in Whitestone, N.Y.

***

Emergency Medical Technician, Overlook Hospital, Summit, NJ, 1982 – 1985. CPR instructor, American Red Cross, 1985.

Training in Die Da (Chinese “hit and fall” Medicine 1995 – Present. Training includes acupuncture, Tui Na, bone setting, Qi Gong, and the application of Chinese herbology for sports and martial arts injuries.

Trained in Nuad Bo-Rarn (Thai massage), 1995 - 1998

Licensed acupuncturist (New York - #002405). NCCAOM Diplomat in Acupuncture.

Best,

Steve Lamade

jakmak52
10-15-2004, 08:02 PM
Martial Arts Curriculum Vitae


James (Jack) Makinson


3018 59th Street South


#406


Gulfport, Florida 33707






DOB: 11/20/1952 Birthplace: Chicago, Illinois Age: 51



Style: ITF Tae Kwon Do Started: 11/10/93



School/Dojo: USA Karate - St. Petersburg, Florida



Instructors:

John Graden 7th Dan

Kathy Marlor 5th Dan

Brent Boyer 2nd Dan

Glenn Laplante 3rd Dan

Joe Lewis 10th Dan

Bill "Superfoot" Wallace

Dr. Neil Shiesske (Kareja Do) 10th Dan

Dr. Jason Hunt (AMAU) 6th Dan



Rank Advancement:

Gold Belt: 02/03/94

Orange Belt: 05/18/94

Green Belt: 09/21/94

Blue Belt: 01/20/95

Red Belt: 04/12/95

Brown Belt: 09/15/95

Black Belt - 1st Degree (Cho-Dan): 06/20/04



Forms:

Tan Gun - Legendary Founder of Korea

To San - Philosopher & Educator

Yul Kuk - Confucius of Korea

Toi Gye - Pen name of a Noted Scholar

Choi Gye - Iron Horse

Hwa Rang - Korean youth movement to reunite the 3 kingdoms of Sila

Choong Mu - Admiral of the 1st Korean Armored Battleship

Kwan Gye - 19th Emperor of the Koguryo Dynasty

Bat Sai Dai (Major) - Breaking through the Fortress







Competitions/Tournaments:



1999 PMTA Gold Tour, Orlando, Florida - 1st Place - Executive Men's Classical Forms

1999 US Open, Orlando Florida - 1st Place - Executive Men's Forms

2003 5th Annual Suncoast Open, Clearwater, Florida - 1st Place - Executive Men's Forms

2004 GSO Open Bradenton, Florida - 1st Place - Executive Men's Traditional Forms

2005 US Open, Orlando, Florida - 6th Place – Executive Men’s Black Belt Traditional Forms



Martial Arts affiliations:

AMAU (American Martial Arts Union) Dr. Jason Hunt

Kareja Do (Dr. Neal Schiesske)

World Black Belt Bureau

Ronald R. Harbers
10-15-2004, 08:14 PM
I boxed in 1960! Boy's Club! I studied Kempo in 1970! I defeated 7 opponents! And I am a Metis!

Nightwish
10-17-2004, 07:03 AM
Taught by a bouncer who studies senshido concepts and CFA concepts, as well as his own methods he had created for himself. His name is Tony Mcfarlane.

My training consists of:

Delivery systems
Tool + Target Development
Closest weapon, closest target concept
Awareness strategies
Armed Combat and unarmed combat (including improvised weapons) in various environments
Tactical weapons defense
Scenario Training
Criminal Behaviour studies
Ritualistic Combative signs
Verbal defusing strategies
Belief Systems
Cardiovascular Conditioning

2 years and going..don't plan on stopping. I train 2 hours a day/5 days a week.

TonyM.
10-17-2004, 12:03 PM
Sinawali eskrima, 1962
Boxing, 1962
Judo, 1964
Hasayfu Hung Ga, 1965
Wrestling, 1966
Shotokan, 1967
Jiu Jutsu, 1967
Tang Soo Do, 1970
Ulu, 1970
Fairbairn/Sykes, 1971
Combatitives, FM21-150, 1971
Service- Co. H, 75th Inf. Co.A 2/75th Inf.
Fifth Dist. Volunteer Fire Dept.
Vermont Dept. of Corrections
Currently a happy civilian that practices HaSayFu Hung Ga

Dronak
10-17-2004, 11:39 PM
Well, I can give you a basic background, but it's hardly worth it. But if you're really curious, I didn't do any real martial arts training until recently. When I started with a club here on the college campus, we started with northern Shaolin long fist kung fu. That was in fall 2001. I started learning Yang style tai chi in spring 2002 and it took about a year before our teacher finished it with my group. I was able to keep up with these for about 2 years, until around spring 2003 before finishing my PhD took up so much time that I couldn't afford the practice time anymore. I went to our final special class session in spring 2004 to learn one final form, one of a few that's famous and very characteristic of the style. After that, our teacher moved back to his home country and that's been about it. Some of us are trying to continue practicing now and since I have a bit more time now, I'm trying to pick it up again. I had some threads in the CMA forums detailing my training as I was doing it, but I don't know if they're accessible any more. If they are though, you can find plenty of details in them.

Ippon Ken
10-18-2004, 12:39 AM
Started in Kodokan Judo at 7-9 years old. My pops moved so I took up boxing . Did that from 10-14 years old. Pops moved again (to the P.I.) and almost immediately started training in Shorinkan (Kobayashi Shorin Ryu) after checking out various schools and styles both on and off base. Did that for 5 years, then we returned to the "world". Looked for years for a good MAs school, of any type. There weren't any in San Antonio from what I could tell. Kept practicing and training on my own and with my brother. Did this for about 6 years (no formal instruction from a higher grade), then decided to give in and "join" a local Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu dojo. What a joke! It did get me use to beating people up again. My bro just ain't no joke. Training with him was the biggest blessing ever. Did that for about 6 months (contract length).

While I was there I kept hearing from some of the students about this guy Lindsey Sensei who would come down every so often to teach tuite and realistic kata bunkai appication. He made them do kotekitai (body-hardening) and I guess this was the only time these cats got to feel hard bone-on-bone contact and to do real hojo undo. I thought 'wow" that sounds like my training in the Philippines. Beyond that never thought about the guy until our contract ran out.

A few years later my brother suggested we take a 90 minute drive to talk to Ron Lindsey. We expected some more BS stateside karate. We were wrong.

What was suppose to be a quick visit to analyze the situation (and teacher) turned into a 3 hour discussion on MAs and the lack of real stuff nowadays. He showed us some quick PP/tuite/tegumi techs, like pressing the thumb into the various branches of your radial artery while locking your elbow, shoulder or wrist, which we thought "hey, now that doesn't feel good"! I think he was testing our temperament. He thought we were cool and invited us to train with him whenever he and we could. We said "most definitely", and that's who I train with now, 6 years later. We do 6-7 hour sessions, twice a month and it's the best MAs experience I've ever had. We travel 90 minutes just to train with a real sensei. Forget convenience if it's all plastic return.

In 2000 a friend of mine who was a staunch GJJ player, and whom I visit often in LA, told me he had a friend that use to teach at Gracie Academy-Torrance, who now wanted to branch out on his own. He was looking to do seminars wherever he could to make some $$$ and to spread his brand of GJJ. We met and I liked him as a person so I decided that I would set something up for him in San Antonio at UTSA. He came down, the response was so-so, we had a decent seminar, but most of all we went to the Riverwalk and chilled and hawked females and it was all love. Carlos Elias is a friend for life. I told Caique I would learn his JJ and teach it here. I never did, Instead I did privates with Ryron Gracie through my friend, got the gist of it, and never went back. I guess my football, Judo, wrestling, gymnastics and boxing experience gave me a solid foundation.

I've stuck to Orthodox Shorin Ryu and always will. This type of karate will be extinct soon if someone doesn't learn it well enough to pass it one to others. Modern karate-do, kenpo, MMAs, BJJ and muay thai have their advocates. The original Okinawan MAs are rare. I'm indebted to it for helping to mold me into who I am physically and mentally. Plus it's saved my bottom for the reals a few times. Forget about money and glory. You have to understand what it is the spirit or intent of the thing is trying to say to you.

Ippon Ken
10-18-2004, 10:12 PM
He showed us some quick PP/tuite/tegumi techs, like pressing the thumb into the various branches of your radial NERVE while locking your elbow, shoulder or wrist, which we thought "hey, now that doesn't feel good"! I think he was testing our temperament.
Where I originally typed "radial ARTERY" it should be "radial NERVE". Sorry. Later ...

Hope my tangent reply didn't scare anyone off.

bignick
10-18-2004, 10:59 PM
started training in taekwondo in 1994...
got to 3rd gup and was ready to test for 2nd in 1996 when my instructor could no longer afford to drive to my town and my parents coudn't afford to drive me to his...

so i got to take a little break...

I had always planned on starting taekwondo again as soon as I had the chance...so when I came to college...I immediately joined the club on campus...that was august 2002...I started over as a white belt but due to my previous expecience (it was the same school...just a different instructor) I advanced quickly and am now a 1st gup and testing for black belt on December 11...

started judo and, informally, jujutsu in the winter of 2003...tested for yellow belt in judo in may of 2003 and i'm still there...never seem to get around testing again..even though i've got the written test completed and the test booklet filled out...

tested for my green belt in jujutsu...actually, kaisho goshin budo taihojutsu in may of 2004...still actively practicing all three arts and having the time of my life doing it...

OC Kid
10-19-2004, 10:52 AM
I started inna street gang in 1960 then I started hanging out in water front bars and became a bouncer, then I got bored so I started going to biker bars walking in wearing a pink shirt with white ruffles and screaming at the top of my lungs.."all you sissy bikers stink" and went and opened my own school and makes lots of money teachnig kids the dim mak...

Black belt in Butokukan Karate 1987 www.jabka.org , moved to calif, trained in American Kempo under Mr. Todd Mc Elhenny ( took over Dick Willets school) and trained at Mr. Bob Whites Kempo then took American Kickboxing under John "Big T" Turnage fmr PKA #1 contender, then took Muay Thai under Yuki Horuchi.
Got married had kids retired for 10 years, I am now teaching disadvantaged kids and my son at my home.

JAMJTX
02-01-2005, 01:46 AM
Started training in 1977 - Tae Kwon Do under Richard C. Kelley Jr. Orlando, FL
We later joined the NKJU and switched styles to Motobuha Shito Ryu Karatedo.
This led to an introduction to Soke Shogo Kuniba and his Goshin Budo.

Received training in Hakko Ryu through Lemuel Stroud and his students.

Eventually trained in Junse Goshin Budo Jujitsu (Kaisho Goshin Budo Taihojutsu Ryu) under Darrell Craig, Houston Budokan

Now training in Doshinkan Aikido under Yukio Utada.

I teach Goshin Budo Jujitsu and Mugai Ryu Hyodo

terryl965
02-01-2005, 08:52 AM
My name is Terry lee Stoker born January 7th 1960 in Lamesa Texas. I first started training in Okinawa karate in 1964 under my father Master Drill Instructor W. R. Stoker Sr. I recieved my Black belt in 1972 under him, in 1975 I recieved my 2nd from W.R. Stoker Sr and Paul Pressley while training in Texas, in 1979 I recieved my 3rd while I was home from spring break. In 1982 I recieved my 4th under the same two gentleman during Christmas break. It was in 1981 when I started training in TKD under Master Gin Kim in California, I tested for 1st dan in February of 82 while studing both Arts, later that year I recieved my 5th in okinawa karate. During the early to mid 80's I fought in the PKA out of San Diego California. I stopped competing in 1986. I still was heavinly involved in TKD and tested for my second in the winter of 85. In 1989 my father had a massive stroke and died later that year I tested for my 3rd, I tested for my 4th of December of 2004 and recieved it. As of today I own and operate Twin dragons MAS in Arlington Texas where we teach WTF TKD with a twist we also teach ITF forms to those that wish to learn.

rmclain
02-01-2005, 10:37 AM
Hello Mr. Stoker,

Where is your school in Arlington?


Curriculum Vitae:

Full version: http://www.robertmclain.com/robert_mclain.htm

In short:

I began training in the 1970's under the guidance of my father, Paul McLain, who trained in Genwa Kai, Judo and Aikido while on active duty at Wright-Patterson AFB 1964-68, then under Master Kim Pyung Soo in Houston, Tx. 1968-70. In 1984, I became a direct student of (now) Grandmaster Kim Pyung Soo. In 1994, I re-located to Arlington, Texas to pioneer a branch school of Chayon-Ryu as Grandmaster Kim Soo's representative.

I've continued to travel once a month to take private lessons, instructor's clinics, and help with demonstrations with Grandmaster Kim Soo since 1994.
I was promoted to 4th Dan on December 4, 2004.

Robert McLain