Sparring Techniques

[jfarnsworth]

How many of you guys/gals out here are still practicing the freestyle sparring techniques? This is just a general question for all.;)

[WilliamTLear]

We do them every day at Mr. Hawkins' Studio. And we have alot of fun modifying them using the equation formula.

I personally think that they are a great learning tool, and an integral part of the system.

Sincerely,
Billy Lear, UKS (http://www.geocities.com/williamtlear) :asian:

[Les]

The freestyle techniques dont seem to be covered a great deal over here in Europe, but it does vary from school to school.

I always disliked them, until I attended a seminar with Mr Gilbert Velez, and he showed me the potential of them.

We do them in our schools, but not really in the way they are written in the Journals. I require my students to have them for testing, but I havce to admit we go in 'fits and starts', sometimes not touching them for weeks.

They are a great teaching/learning tool, for many of the Kenpo principles and concepts.

Les

[SingingTiger]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
How many of you guys/gals out here are still practicing the freestyle sparring techniques?

Can you give an example? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, we don't do them as specific "approved EPAK" drills (at least partially because it's not an EPAK school). But in the sparring class the instructor has us do various drills, and I'm guessing that some of them are similar or identical to what you're talking about.

I haven't found them all that helpful, but then I'm not all that into (or very good at) freestyle sparring.

Rich

[Chronuss]

I feel they're very helpful to a beginning practioner who has had no training or very little. they allow the student to get in close and show the value of taking and making openings on an oppenent's body. granted, some of the Freestyle Techniques would be slightly illegal in some sparring situations (i.e.: palm heel to jaw). they also reinforce A LOT of the maneuvers of the system and show how to implement them, and at the beginning stages of training I feel are very critical.

[WilliamTLear]

Originally posted by Chronuss
I feel they're very helpful to a beginning practioner who has had no training or very little. they allow the student to get in close and show the value of taking and making openings on an oppenent's body. granted, some of the Freestyle Techniques would be slightly illegal in some sparring situations (i.e.: palm heel to jaw). they also reinforce A LOT of the maneuvers of the system and show how to implement them, and at the beginning stages of training I feel are very critical.

I always figured that the freestyle techniques were created to explore the idea of initiating action in a street-freestyle situation. Sparring could be one use, but if that were the case... ALOT of the freestyle techniques are illegal.

Sincerely,
Billy Lear, UKS (http://www.geocities.com/williamtlear) :asian:

[jfarnsworth]

Legal or Illegal? Who's keeping track. :idunno:

[Michael Billings]

It is all about range and methods of closing the gap. They can also flow into self-defense techniques. Some of Bryan Hawkins' Black Belts have taken the freestyle basics to a whole new level and actually continued the progression until you see Kenpo Extensions in the Freestyle techniques.

It is very cool!!! And they Work!!

-Michael
AKTS

[bahenlaura]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
How many of you guys/gals out here are still practicing the freestyle sparring techniques? This is just a general question for all.;)

:cool:

We try and run through them every class. There is something about them, when you start working with a partner they make you think and analyze different situations. Well of course like anything else in Kenpo, you get to Hit and get Hit and that by itself helps you learn.

:boxing:

[Kenpomachine]

I guess we don't do them. We usually do some sparring techniques that are common to many systems, such as boxing or TKD. But they mainly come from one of the instructors experience in full contact fights.

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
How many of you guys/gals out here are still practicing the freestyle sparring techniques? This is just a general question for all.;)

Please explain them to me. I've read them in the Infinate Insights book, but I don't quite understand them. Are they supposed to be pre determined, or what? How can it be be freestsyle with the implementation of self defense techniques?:confused:

[jfarnsworth]

They are drills. Ideas of motion to give you examples of numerous sparring techniques or combinations. I've just started on the sparring techniques and have found much use for them. The Goldendragon is a "must" to talk to and get the proper info. on the origins and uses of these drills.

[Goldendragon7]

Originally posted by RCastillo
Please explain them to me. I've read them in the Infinate Insights book, but I don't quite understand them. Are they supposed to be pre determined, or what? How can it be be freestsyle with the implementation of self defense techniques?:confused:

If we tell you ....... then we'd have to kill you.
:rofl:

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7
If we tell you ....... then we'd have to kill you.
:rofl:

Kill your own Kenpo Cousin?:confused: :eek: :(

[WilliamTLear]

Originally posted by RCastillo
Kill your own Kenpo Cousin?:confused: :eek: :(

KILL' EM... I WANNA WATCH!!!! :D

[Seig]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7
If we tell you ....... then we'd have to kill you.
:rofl:
Or Assimilate him.....:borg:

[rachel]

Our school doesn't have sparring for adults. Just for kids and teens purple belt and up.

[Michael Billings]

... can you please us a Freestyle Basic, like one of the 6's? (they look a lot like pieces of extensions. Hmmmmm.....

-Michael

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by RCastillo
Kill your own Kenpo Cousin?:confused: :eek: :(

That's what it sounds like to me.:rofl:

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by Seig
Or Assimilate him.....:borg:


One kind hearted soul in the bunch!:)

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
That's what it sounds like to me.:rofl:

Sounds like a feeding frenzy is building up.:(

[jfarnsworth]

I'll say it again. Join or be conquered.:rofl:

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
I'll say it again. Join or be conquered.:rofl:

But............I'm kin!:(

Your cousin from down south!:(

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by RCastillo
But............I'm kin!:(

Your cousin from down south!:(


Doesn't matter. I don't claim to have a sister either.:eek:

[Chronuss]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
Doesn't matter. I don't claim to have a sister either.:eek:

if you're from that far down south...they could be one in the same... :eek:

[molson]

We practice various drills for sparring. Blitz steps, lead leg blitz etc... also a multiple list of advancing techniques and counters. Theres a great book by Dan Anderson called I believe its american freestlye karate, that covers freestlye sparring techniques.

[Brother John]

We do them in our schools, but not really in the way they are written in the Journals. I require my students to have them for testing, but I havce to admit we go in 'fits and starts', sometimes not touching them for weeks.

Us too Les.
We like them, and like to improvise with them. Currently we are working on grafting from them to SD-techs and from SD-techs into them. Nice way to mix it up.
Your Brother
John
:asian:

[Les]

Originally posted by Brother John
Us too Les.
We like them, and like to improvise with them. Currently we are working on grafting from them to SD-techs and from SD-techs into them. Nice way to mix it up.
Your Brother
John
:asian:

John,

I see they are listed in the requirements for the International Test in March.

Last year Mr Mills said he would like to see more done with them :eek:

Hopefully I'll see you there.

Les

P.S.
Are you fully recovered and back to training?

[Goldendragon7]

Originally posted by Les
The freestyle techniques dont seem to be covered a great deal over here in Europe, but it does vary from school to school.


Too bad for Europe.


Originally posted by Les
We do them in our schools, but not really in the way they are written in the Journals. I require my students to have them for testing, but I havce to admit we go in 'fits and starts', sometimes not touching them for weeks.


All a matter of understanding. The are just "drills" to teach students some key basics to freestyle. These are NOT the only freestyle drills I use in my organization but they form a starting point from which to build.


Originally posted by Les
They are a great teaching/learning tool, for many of the Kenpo principles and concepts. Les


Of course, just as in all material. Even the techniques are just "EXAMPLES" to start with then build upon...... but you must realize what is there first and the reason for it's development before you understand the usefulness of the activity.

:asian:

[Brother John]

Yes Les I am recovering, but slowly.
I kinda hit a snag a few weeks back, has me limping a bit right now... until I get warmed up sufficiently... then you'd never guess it. Mostly working on strengthening exercises right now.
I am training daily and teaching about three days a week (2 hrs a class) but I wear my knee brace and don't go 110% like I'd like to. I should be ready to blaze a trail next Fall Vegas camp though. Hope to see some of my European brothers there!
(Even if yall do talk funny)
:eek: ;) :asian:
Your Brother
John
PS: Thanks for the concern!
your a good brother!!!