View Full Version : A new style of Judo


J-kid
01-16-2003, 05:43 AM
How many styles of Judo are there out there, I studie Jacket wrestling style of judo made by John R Holm, He is top of the line and i believe he is a master of the art , He has been doing it his whole life almost and it shows. I have learned much from him and he always seems to have somthing new to show me. But how many diffrent types of judo are there out there?

yilisifu
01-16-2003, 05:47 AM
I was always told that the only true "judo", by that name, is the Kodokan version, although there are certainly many versions of jujutsu and other grappling arts.

J-kid
01-16-2003, 05:58 AM
Well they all start from somewhere but seem to branch off a little in style depending where you train and so forth.

Hollywood1340
01-16-2003, 11:22 AM
Jacket Wrestling, a type of Judo, eh? Funny, Judo normaly involves one. What does this imrpove over traditional Kodokan Judo, what sets it apart? I'm interested now........

ace
01-16-2003, 04:17 PM
This Sounds Like Sombo.
What Are The Rules That U Follow.

arnisador
01-17-2003, 12:08 AM
Kawaishi Judo:
http://www.bestjudo.com/brgokyo.shtml

I think there's only this, Kosen, and of course Kodokan that are true styles of Kano's judo (one might include Korean yudo).

J-kid
01-17-2003, 02:04 AM
Its really diffrent we work with body manigement and diffrent style of Judo.

If you have any questions about it please ask.

ace
01-17-2003, 05:56 PM
Jacket Wrestling is another name for Sambo.
Sambo Has Throws Arm & Leg Submissons.
Pins.

Like Judo u can Win from A Perfect Throw.
Un like Judo U can not Win from a Pin.
Armlocks are simalar, but no Chicken Wings.

Un like Judo U can Use Leg Locks, But Straight only.
No Choking is aloud.

The Uniform is an all Red or Blue outfit
Wearing A Kurtika(Jacket),Wresltling Shoes.

Explain Your Instructors Styel for us please.
Thankx Judo-Kid

arnisador
01-17-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by ace
Jacket Wrestling is another name for Sambo.

This has been my understanding as well.

ace
01-18-2003, 11:55 AM
Im still Waiting for an Answer
:lookie:

J-kid
01-18-2003, 05:27 PM
Well it conbines all the diffrent skills from wrestling with judo jujutsu, To give you a conparisent on how we are really diffrent then a Tradional Judo Club, are throws where we grab how we set up is very diffrent. We only do a few Leg locks but we always have BJJ and Sambo Guys coming down to train with us and i pick up more from them.

J-kid
01-18-2003, 05:28 PM
even though you cant leg lock in Judo Comp:uzi:

J-kid
01-18-2003, 05:32 PM
we also do alot of ground work.

jfarnsworth
01-18-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Judo-kid
But how many diffrent types of judo are there out there?

They all stemmed from one. All I can tell you is that you need keep training and refining what you have. Keep the good stuff then refine it some more. Take the material you don't like or don't think you'll use and put it in the back of your mind. Practice those on occassion since you'll never know when you just might need 'em. All arts are; are tools. Each art are good in their own right. Drills of motion. All you can improve on are basics.

ace
01-18-2003, 10:09 PM
This Still does Not Answer my Question????/
It Still Sounds Like Sambo

Sambo has alot of Wrestling & Judo/ Ju Jitsu
Techniques.

Angus
01-19-2003, 06:05 AM
Yeah, sounds a lot like a sambo. Probably came from a teacher that did sambo and judo?

ace
01-19-2003, 09:12 PM
Which is not a Bad Thing at all.
But The Post Say's a New Styel Of Judo.


My Question is How Does it Differ from Sambo
Or Kodokan Judo????

Both Are Styels of Jacket Wrestling
Both Use Arm Locks & Throws

RyuShiKan
01-20-2003, 06:54 PM
I do know there is “old” style Judo and Olympic Judo which only differ in the types of techniques used for matches, but other than that I have never heard of there being different "styles" of Judo as there are in Karate or Jujutsu.

J-kid
01-21-2003, 03:47 AM
Has anyone seen John R holm or talk to him or seen his students fight (like me) Its not sambo, Its really diffrent. Its hard to explain on the internet.

JDenz
01-21-2003, 01:05 PM
Ace wanted me to post you guys this link
http://members.tripod.com/fishboyforever/sambo_is_a_russian_martial_arts_.htm


Mod Note: Edited typo to make link clickable. - KR

ace
01-21-2003, 02:44 PM
:cheers:

JDenz
01-21-2003, 02:50 PM
anytime

ace
01-21-2003, 11:15 PM
I've been searching the Name

Jhon R. Holm on The Net
Nothing has been Found
Is there a Link Or Web Site Were We Might Find Him
Were Has HE Fought/ Who has he fought????/////

________________________________________________

RyuShikan
___________

The Jikishin-Ryu Was Using The Name Judo some
200 years before the Birth of Kano.
I've also been reserching a group known as
Kosen Judo

RyuShiKan
01-21-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by ace

The Jikishin-Ryu Was Using The Name Judo some
200 years before the Birth of Kano.
I've also been reserching a group known as
Kosen Judo

Ace,


Here is some info on Jikishin Ryu Jujutsu and Kosen Judo found at this website:
http://www.kobukaijujitsu.com/sensei6.html

J-kid
01-22-2003, 10:27 PM
I have found stuff some papers have to do with his case against bowing, But i found some on his training as well.

ace
01-23-2003, 09:40 AM
Were can we find it?????????

ace
01-25-2003, 09:54 PM
& Judo kid i am still waiting for an answer.
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J-kid
01-25-2003, 11:31 PM
Err making the search hard is a bunch of web sites about his case against bowing.

I just got back from my tournment for WASHINGTON STATE CHAMPION.

Are Judo Club got 11 Gold and 3 Silver.

I got a gold medal.

Next time i want to fight in both Jr And Seniors.

I will at nationals.

Its funny 2 of are silvers are from are own guys getting second because they fought our own guys for first.

ace
01-25-2003, 11:34 PM
Congrates Did u win By Throw Pin Or SUBMISSON????
Hey Send us a link Were To Find More Info.

ace
01-26-2003, 09:33 AM
?????????/

ace
01-26-2003, 02:48 PM
What Rank Are U in Judo/M.A.
I Still Can't Find Anything on Your Teacher.
I've Even Asked A Few Judo Shodans???

And There Were other Teams besides Your School
There Rite????????

J-kid
01-26-2003, 03:30 PM
It took me 3 seconds to find this and i will find you something about him next.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/49699_judo07.shtml

Search Under my clubs Name, US Judo Training Center

ace
01-26-2003, 03:36 PM
Glad it took U 3 seconds.
Pearsonaly The Bow Does Not Bother me.

Now as for My other Questions??????

Bob Hubbard
01-27-2003, 01:07 AM
Ace,
For info on Mr. Holm,
goto Google and use the following search terms exactly
"John Holm" judo

You will get about 3 pages of links, most about his fight against bowing.


Hey JK...whats the scoop on this Leilani Akiyama?
Yet according to her coach, John Holm, Ph.D., Akiyama is the top contender for judo in the 2004 Olympics.

This your instructor? Just curious.

J-kid
01-27-2003, 02:41 AM
Yeah,

I happen to know her , She is awsome and kills everyone in judo and Wrestling without a problem/

ace
01-27-2003, 01:35 PM
I currius What is Your Rank?????
Not that it Matters much But i read several Times
People have asked & got no response?????/

Angus
01-27-2003, 06:29 PM
Dude, look in his profile. He's a green belt.

ace
01-27-2003, 07:08 PM
U got Me LoL
:eek:

Bob Hubbard
01-27-2003, 07:11 PM
Thats it, drop and give us 40.....:D

ace
01-27-2003, 10:08 PM
Push ups????////// Done.

arnisador
01-27-2003, 11:05 PM
Heh, knowing ace I bet he really did the pushups!

ace
01-27-2003, 11:06 PM
:D

JDenz
01-28-2003, 02:53 PM
lol